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Irish teacher jailed after refusing to call student 'they' and use a made up name (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +82 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 41 points 3 years ago +41 / -0

Jailed.

Jailed.

For refusing to deny reality. For refusing to extend special privileges to a delusional child.

This is pure cultural revolution shit. And we have an engineered famine on the horizon, too.

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– LeinsterLad 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

A little bit of context, he was suspended for not calling a boy, 'they', and barred from being on the school grounds. It seems that he was jailed because he continued to turn up at the school.

Certain outlets will run with the 'jailed for transphobia' angle which isn't completely true while others will go for the 'crazy Burke family at it again' angle.

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– OldBullLee 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

he was jailed because he continued to turn up at the school.

Yes, in defiance of the court order. This is the technicality, but sure as shit he's in jail for refusing to play the tranny fascist language game.

He deliberately went to classes to make his point, knowing he'd be in contempt of court, and he's a hero because of it.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 41 points 3 years ago +41 / -0

Western countries are the most despotic tyrannies on the planet.

They require a denial of reality. All the 'autocracies' (= where the Regime does not hold power) merely require you to not voice some opinions which are a matter of controversy, like whether the government is good. They also make no pretense to being free, democratic or having the rule of law.

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– deleted 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0
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– Yakuza 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

time for a good old barbarian invasion

How convenient we've already let them in the gates. Now we just wait.

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– dekachin 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Western countries are the most despotic tyrannies on the planet. They require a denial of reality.

Russian: so about this war in Ukraine

Russian govt: YOU MEAN SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION!

same shit. Despotic regimes like Russia and China do this all the time. The unusual thing is that the Libtards in the West are starting to do it now, too, which is unusual and newsworthy because the West didn't used to have this shit happen before.

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– Assassin47 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

The despotic techniques that China has been improving over the last few decades have been aided by the assistance of Big Tech companies, and they work best against collectivist populations, which social media is cultivating here. There is a disgusting symbiosis between the West and China, where both sides are learning from the other how to be more effective tyrants.

Russia is a little more oldschool and mafioso-like. Since the soviet days I don't think anyone in Russia actually believes what the government says. Chinese are conditioned to not even think about it.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is absolutely the case.

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– Eldourado 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

This professor is an example of values, moral and integrity.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Seriously. I hope I could do the same if I ever found myself in similar circumstances.

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– FromTheShadows 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The Irish deserve to be eaten. If people of the 18th Century saw the state they were in today, they'd give Swift's Modest Proposal a lot more serious thought.

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– bamboozler1 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Like in a stew? 🍲🤔

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– cartoonericroberts 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Give it to us- raw- and wriggling.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Boil 'em, mash em, stick 'em in a... wait a minute.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– NotAGlowy 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They were never asked.

Their media engaged in propaganda and brainwashing so the easily influenced academics and judges swallowed the lies.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

It's shocking how pathetic the Gaels have become. You'd think of all of the West, they'd be at least a little bit resistant. The Irish were still fighting political battles with actual violence not too long ago. But no, somehow they've become especially pozzed, even for fucking Europeans.

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– JuliasEbola00 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"The Irish", as in a few hundred of us. Most Irish people did what they are doing now during the English invasion, which is nothing. The "fighting Irish" haven't been the fighting Irish since they were Celts, which is hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Nah, Gaels are (or were) people who speak the Gaelic languages and had cultural similarities, so the Irish, Scottish, and Manx.

The Gaels are a subset of the Celtic, who are split into the Gaels and the Celtic Britons. The remaining Celtic Britons are the Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons. The historical Picts, who occupied half of what is today considered Scotland, were probably more like the Britons than the Gaels, but whatever was left of them was assimilated by the Gaels around the time the Anglo-Saxons showed up.

The present-day English are not Celtic at all. The Brittonic, who were Celtic, became the Romano-British when the Romans colonized the southern part of Britain, were conquered and almost completely assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons (West Germanic people) around 600 AD, and whatever Celtic was left in them was gone with the Normans (West Germanic and Norse) invading halfway through 1000 AD.

So the Gaels have long been culturally distinct from their English neighbors, which is something they seemed to have held onto even under the British Empire, only to become part of the decultured Western Multinational Economic Zone today.

That's your extremely abbreviated amateur history of the Gaels and their relation to their neighbors and greater cultural group.

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– MuffyMangina 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

That article tries to dance around the issue so much. It doesn't say anything about transgenderism. Just that the teacher wouldn't call a student "a new name" or use the "they" pronoun. So cowardly.

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– Benevolentdictator 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Poorly written article.

Long and convoluted. Very little description until the end regarding why he was suspended from work or what the specifics of the court order was that got him jailed for breeching.

The irony is that he's not going to jail technically for not kowtowing to a troon kid.

He's going to jail because he kept reporting for work when they didn't want him there.

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0
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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Scientology was also very successful in recruiting celebs and insulating themselves from taxation.

And even so, they managed to remain fairly insular without overt attempts to control the Overton window on anything other than perhaps clinical psychiatry.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's crazy how the gender ideology was able to dominate the west in less than 10 year span

We were softened up by the metastasizing of so-called "anti-racism" which had everyone walking on eggshells worried about losing status or employment or access to social media for saying anything that might be twisted into "racism." The tranny fascist ideology came straight outta the university and dissenters are punished by the powerful and their lapdogs looking to save their places and worthless reputations.

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– Galean 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It is actually mentioned very early on, the issue is described very well in the first 6-7 paragraphs. It explains the case, the suspension, the injunction and the fact that the teacher did not comply with it and specifically mentions in paragraphs 6-7 that the judge was not putting him in jail do to the case but do to the teacher not complying with the order made by the court.

The judge said his concern was not with the fundamentals of the positions adopted by the parties. He was concerned only with the breach of the order made by the court.

So the entire thing you claim to have been put at the end is shortly summarized at the beginning of the article and then elaborated later on. I see no problem in how it was framed.

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The part you quoted doesn't elaborate on anything.

All it says is "this teacher is going to jail for defying the court".

I do concede that upon re-reading the top of the article a second time, there is some description of the events in the first 6-7 paragraphs now that I actually know the details of the story.

Burke's school, Wilson’s Hospital in Multyfarnham, Co Westmeath, was granted an injunction preventing Burke from attending or attempting to teach after he was suspended pending the outcome of a disciplinary process.

Burke told the court he could not comply with the order as it would be in violation of his conscience.

The court heard a disciplinary process was commenced after Burke publicly confronted the then principal to voice his opposition to a request to call a student a new name and use the 'they' pronoun.

But if I was going in cold again without the tipoff from the KIA2 link that this was about troons and pronouns, the article spends way more time repeating "injunction" and "breech of court order" without making it clear how he got there in the first place.

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– Galean 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It does a short summary of the event and then it explains in details and while the Kia2 title is bait the article title is correct.

Is not clear at this time if the judge is tough on the teacher do to his believes and convictions or just follows the law. I tend to believe that judges in general are corrupt leftwing pawns but there is no way to prove as there is no mention of this in the article. I would have liked to know if the judge is more lenient in cases pertaining to left wing protected classes like troons or minorities before making any decision on this case. Without it the article as you pointed out is irrelevant that it involves pronouns. Is a defended willingly defying the court and being found in contempt.

You can make a case against the principles as she is clearly a leftwing activist that started all of this by blowing out of proportions the fact that the teacher would not want to deny reality in face of a mentally ill student. This should not have reached the courts to begin with. The fact that this is a serious case highlights how fucked up things have become. Acknowledging reality gets you to court.

So in a way the article does not focus on what I would have liked but still not a bad article.

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– lapalapa 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

So they fired him and he kept showing up?

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I believe technically he was suspended with pay pending a disciplinary hearing.

The based teacher's argument for why he continued to show up is also fairly convoluted, arguing his love for teaching, a duty to continue as a Christian and the lack of a "gross misconduct" allegation allowing him to be put on leave.

I think part of his argument is that agreeing to stay home on suspension in itself is a personal admission he did something wrong enough to warrant it.

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– lapalapa 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I think part of his argument is that agreeing to stay home on suspension in itself is a personal admission he did something wrong enough to warrant it.

That's not a sound argument, in my opinion. Showing up repeatedly sounds unnecessarily confrontational.

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– WeedleTLiar 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Good. The pronoun folx are cowards and confrontation is the only thing that works on them since they don't acknowledge logic or morality.

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– lapalapa 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

confrontation is the only thing that works

This did nothing but get him in trouble.

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– ArtemisFoul 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

For real, the article reads like a mishmash of 18 different articles put together semi-randomly one paragraph at a time.

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– Roadpower 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

This is how political martyrs are created. Petty despots building their own demise one soul at a time.

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– NotAGlowy 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I love this. when I was a teenager if they told me I could change my pronouns then I would have changed them mid-class.

This is a license for any angry teen to get their teacher fired. And teachers deserve this - academia is where this bullshit came from

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This man is a hero:

"He said when the injustice was so egregious, when what he was being asked to do was so absurd to a sound mind, so alien to common decency and so manifestly wrong to the conscience then he could not accept it and could not bow to the order. He said this would be wrong and in violation of his conscience. He claimed teachers around this country were being forced to participate in something - they were being forced to use the pronoun 'they' with regard to 'he' or 'she'.

He said they were not just being asked to allow or acknowledge something but condone and endorse it and this was something he would not do."

If only the run-of-the-mill teacher had this man's courage.

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– Galean 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just going to point out that this overreach was started by a woman.

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– GeneralBoobs 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

When they elected the faggot, I knew Ireland was lost.

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