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US Army is failing to meet recruitment goals (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by ArchRespawnsAgain 3 years ago by ArchRespawnsAgain +37 / -0
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– Nathrandir 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

When you demonize the people most naturally inclined to gravitate towards patriotic duty and service, then make every effort to appeal to every other demographic under the sun that wants nothing to do with military service, you get what you deserve.

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– current_horror 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

It mirrors video games. When you demonize your audience in order to start selling your product to people who don’t want it, you end up with no one.

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– acp_k2win 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

within our lifetime: UN or NATO (WEF) "peacekeepers" operating on US soil with full police powers.

anyone who might not follow orders to shoot patriots is being purged from the military

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– Smith1980 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Isn’t there an old Kissinger quote talking about UN Police having jurisdiction in America?

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– current_horror 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I’m not a violent person, but I will react “poorly” to any foreign military operating on American soil.

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– Kienan 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Heck, aside from on the border or natural disasters and the like, even domestic military operating on American soil is a nonstarter. UN/Nato? I can't say just how much they can fuck right off.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– LauriThorne 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

The Army Corps of Engineers maintains those levees, they're the only part of the service with any right to actually be there.

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– Kienan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I was including National Guard, who are still under the branch of "US military," but can operate domestically.

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– realerfunction 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– ArchRespawnsAgain [S] 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

womp womp

It fell short of recruiting goals by 10K this fiscal year despite revising them downard. It's forecast to fall even further behind next year. I think this is emblematic of the much deserved loss of faith in our institutions from media to government to health care.

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– AntonioOfVenice 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Maybe their recruitment goals should be stated in total weight rather than number.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Besides the demonizing the demographic most likely to serve there's also the realization by those most likely to serve that the United States army is the enforcement arm of GAE rather than defenders of the homeland. Look how they spent the surge of patriotism after 9/11.

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– ParadigmShift2070 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

good, let the tranny faggots they managed to recruit go die for our greatest ally ™

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– MegoThor 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

"Get the jab or get out! Hey, where'd everybody go?"

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– Gizortnik 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Good. This is actually very useful for why forcing a state to only operate with militias and volutneers is the best policy.

A population does have a choice on whether or not they fight wars, and the refusal to have volunteers join causes dramatic effects on the ability for the government to exert war-fighting ability.

I'll give you three examples. Iraq, Vietnam, and The War of 1812.

First is in Iraq.

Rumsfeld honestly thought he could get away with invading Iraq with only a hundred thousand troops, and every general told him he was crazy to have anything less than 400,000. One of the reasons for the level of rioting early on is because the rioting was so widespread that there was no possible way for even 100,000 troops to suppress (and you've got to understand that that means maybe 30,000 - 50,000 combat units, which is closer to maybe 20,000 actual riflemen to do policing actions, a job they weren't even trained to do). That's that shitty part where the manpower shortage is so fucking bad they handed off rifles to cooks, brought in every reservist they could find, hired absolute fuckloads of PMC's, and infamously started the US Army's "Stop Loss" program which pulled people from the IRR, which means they might not have even been in an Army base in 3-4 years.

The Stop Loss program was plenty bad, and really hurt morale. It didn't improve anything, and so more and more PMC's had to basically fill in for the US military, because if you're gonna pay someone to do patrols for you, you're not paying them the salary of an E-3: $30,000 a year. You'll pay out your asshole for $90,000 a year for someone who was an E-3, and you'll fucking like it.

Worse, it meant the US government rushed unfit Iraqi troops and "National Guard" units that were immediately subverted by terrorists. They caused more problems than they solved, and were dissolved for basically being a terrorist faction within the Iraqi government. The US government did everything in it's power to pull people into the military, but even then, it meant entire careers (like my own) were spent entirely on deployments, cycling back and forth to war-zones. Even for reserves. Had there been more budget cuts, the war in Iraq would have ended simply because the military couldn't continue to pay for the war, especially when they kept having to pay PMC's out the ass. Best they could have done is what they have in Syria, but that would have required the Iraqis to fight on their side. Heh. Good luck.

Next is Vietnam.

People have no idea how bad the situation in Vietnam actually got after 1969. In 1971 a USMC Lt. General investigated the state of American troops in Vietnam and stated they were almost universally "Combat Ineffective". This meant that they literally could not be used in combat. By 1971, the war had become so unpopular, and there were so few volunteers, that the draftees were running the show, and it was a catastrophe. Except for pilots, all of the infantry officers that had joined the war early on had either cycled out or had resigned. The draftees were awash with criminality and drugs. Plenty of the draftees were even ideologically pozzed from Black Nationalists to White Communists, none of whom were interested in fighting the NVA, and more interested in fighting each other. If it were not for the fact that the NVA and VC had taken such extreme casualties in 1968 & 1969 and changed their strategy to a more subversive route, US ground forces would likely have been fucking massacred in an NVA offensive. The Vietnamization of the war wasn't just a political policy, it was a desperate measure. There were so few volunteers that the war couldn't be prosecuted any further except by air, but the draftees were such a threat to themselves that if the NVA had understood the weakness of the American positions, you could have had the bloodiest years of the war in 1971. It was investigations like this that basically lead to the DOD accepting that a draft would probably never be done again, and why even though the US was desperate for troops in Iraq, no serious attempt was made to reinstate it. The unpopularity of the war at home, basically ended the war. General Giap was right, it just cost him the entirety of the Viet Cong, and most of his ground forces.

Then there is the War of 1812.

People don't realize it, but this is the single most unpopular war in US history. The US Army... er "Legion Of The United States" was a very small, mostly professional army with some of the most incompetent commanders in the world. It was far too small to invade Canada, so they attempted to sustain themselves with state militias. Unfortunately, several of the states simply refused to send militias, and several state governments almost refused to even ratify the war. Secession was openly being debated. One state legislature was actually occupied by federal troops until it "chose" to ratify the declaration of war from Washington. There were multiple major anti-war riots across the US, including in Baltimore (which as you remember isn't that far from DC). The war, effectively, was politically one sided. Only people who wanted to try and seize Canada could actually fight it, and so the results were 3 disastrous invasions of Canada, only showing marginal competence in the final invasion when the Canadians and British were long ready. When US forces were attacked by British forces, they tended to do better: Baltimore's militia actually helped to repel the British invasion that burned DC, as the invasion force was headed to Baltimore next, despite their anti-war stance. Andrew Jackson's famous defense of New Orleans was also a major positive. But the US Infantry were incapable of really successfully launching offensive maneuvers, mostly because of the lack of co-operation from states and people.

What I'm saying is, this is great news. This is how Republics can control war. The refusal to allow the government the capacity to wage war is the best way to prevent it from starting ones. The only thing that they are left with is stealing our money to pay PMC's to do it for them. That's only going to work so long as the economy is strong, and the value of the dollar is good.

pbbbbt.

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– dekachin 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

We should make a kamikaze division with all the new trans recruits. They ought to hit their targets 43% of the time.

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– ZodShael 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Israel worst affected.

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– pertivi 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Right before they start some shit in Taiwan or Iran....

Yeah people aren't stupid to die for Victoria Nuland and the Kagan brothers.

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– deleted 46 points 3 years ago +46 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 45 points 3 years ago +45 / -0

Someone wrote that America is loved most by the people the state despises the most. That's quite sad really.

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– dekachin 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

The Left has been in "America bad" mode ever since WW2 when the Cold War started, because America was the primary opponent of their beloved communist ideological allies.

The whole Cold War, and peaking in Vietnam, the Left did everything it could to undermine and destroy the American military. They went so far in Vietnam with their baby killers routine that the backlash means even to this day people say "thank you for your service" reflexively.

The cycle of libtardism is circling back around again. The 2010s were like the 1960s. Then it was drug culture, now it's LGBT culture. Black chimpouts were big then and now. Now it's the 1970s. Thankfully it looks like we will be on a shorter cycle this time since the backlash is already coming.

The 1980s and 1990s were a pretty right wing era. Hopefully we can get an even stronger right wing revival over the next decade.

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– current_horror 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

Demographic replacement has completely altered this calculus. The last time the nation “corrected” itself, we were still more than 80% euro white. Now? Less than 60% - and falling fast. Why would a country composed of a now radically different ethnic makeup behave the same way as it did before?

The dirt isn’t magic.

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– MaximumHonk 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah, a country is its people and their culture.

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– dekachin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The bulk of that change has been hispanics, who are swinging around to the Right now in response to all the crazy woke shit.

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– DonuteaterReturns 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And yet they still aren't the same as White people. If Hispanics were natural conservatives, why is South America not a paradise?

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– dekachin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

They aren't natural conservatives.

It took like 30 years of libtards and woke psychos to BEGIN to redpill the ones who came here.

Central and south americans are socialist idiots, which is why they're poor. They're natural leftists, but having faggots scream Latinx at them for a decade apparently made some of them start to reconsider.

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– DonuteaterReturns 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

In other words, a Hispanic US will still be shit.

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– MattTheBlack 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Just look at how Dems shit on red states and claim that they're keeping them afloat with federal money even though most of that is going to towards federal things like military. I wouldn't risk my life for some leftist fuck

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– deleted 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

I didn't. But that does sound sad. There's a Twitter account called "did they fight for this?" - showing WWII soldiers landing in Normandy while having in their minds the various pathologies of the modern world.

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– SparkMandrill83 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I wonder how hed feel if you told him he fought in that war to create this world

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– blackestknight 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

The people who still think it's not shitty.

But then you alienate them by forcing them to get vaccinated with a vaccine that doesn't work and has a risk of causing heart disease, and if that's not enough, you toss in the fact that they'll be stuck around mentally ill colleagues who think being "misgendered" is violence.

Imagine being a patriot, being on the front of Hunter Biden's latest money making scheme, starting to have chest pains, and your brother in arms is bawling his eyes out because he was called "my guy" by the sergeant.

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– blackestknight 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

The one time I agree with Imp.

Except for Taiwan, they have too many semi conductors to just let go. That needs to be brought back locally before we can just let them get eaten by the CCP.

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– Kaarous 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

We should absolutely let them go. That battle was lost the moment we let such a tiny, fragile foreign nation with a hostile power right next to them, accumulate so much critical manufacturing capability.

Tear off the bandaid.

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– alucard13mmfmj 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Itll take 3 to 5 years for foundries to start up in the usa to produce chips and semi conductors. Probably go through a lot of red tape like petro refineries or nuclear power plants.

I dont think china is gonna wait because the perfect time is now with biden in charge.

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– blackestknight 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Probably go through a lot of red tape

Our political elite makes us play with different rules and people wonder why 1 income families can't afford to live the middle class life anymore.

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– realerfunction 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

we need to hang everyone that let offshoring happen.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I don't think it is part of a plan. A UN force needs bodies as well, and a UN-backed military would have an even worse crisis of legitimacy. It can't leverage the remnants of nationalist sentiment.

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