TERFs aren't your friends. All Feminists are your enemy.
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TheImp is that you? I mean I agree with the sentiment but any disturbance in the leftist camp is good. If feminists are at odds with the LGBT mafia is a win. If anything we should increase the division.
No.
True. But too many people simp for any random Femshevik just because that Femshevik has an Anti-Trans opinion. I am not saying that is issue for KIA 2 here but here is an useful meme to post when you see that sort of thing happening.
Nah, the issue isn't men simping for hardcore feminists who tend to be rather unattractive, but rather men thinking with their dicks and simping for attractive women who are only trying to use them.
Lesson isn't that all women are bad, but rather men need to stop thinking with their dicks. Sex is a weapon used by manipulative women, and making your whole life about getting sex is simply playing into their hands. There are far more important things in life than pussy.
A lot of the right has these sort of women too, it isn't just on the left. Always be wary of grifters who just want your money, time or both. Championing a good message is fine just don't follow someone blindly and look at the telltale signs.
everything is cope besides sliding between them walls
Monster infighting ftw
Your meme is shit. Nobody thinks TERFs are our friends, but not everyone who gets labelled a TERF is a TERF.
I disagree. There has been entirely too much simping in nominally right-wing spaces on this issue. Not just with regard to TERFs, but regarding women in general, and a bunch of tradcuck white knights circlejerking about the need to protect real women from men who think they are women.
Feminists may have been the first to demolish the old social contract that entitled women to men's protection, but that doesn't change the fact that it was broken, and women of every sociopolitical stripe took advantage of it, demanding all of their female privileges while refusing to live up to their traditional responsibilities.
The trans phenomenon is a direct result of the hatred and vitriol, contempt, malice and callousness that are directed at men in our society by women in general, not just feminists: a phenomenon that has become so commonplace that men all over the place have grown to hate themselves so much just for being men that they're desperately trying to become women.
This isn't just a "let them fight" scenario. It's time for men everywhere, especially on the right, to stop standing up for and defending people who hate us.
I don't understand where you are coming from with this. Do you want gender traditionalism back or not? With Imp1, it was abundantly clear he wanted it destroyed. There are many other MGTOW types who are like that. Spite politics and some LARP principle of "not helping people who hate you" is used as cover for their own brand of radical liberalism. It's unclear to me where you stand.
That doesn't explain the outbreak in trans among women and girls. Trans stuff is pushed by a network of billionaire groomers. That's why it's spreading despite being widely revolting.
I do my best not to advocate for anything. I'm not an accelerationist, but I am a pretty black-pilled sit-back-get-drunk-and-watch-the-world-burn type. I'm more inclined to try to understand the cause of what I see as societal problems, not to propose solutions to them.
There's no doubt in my mind that the traditional social contract between the sexes worked better than what we have now, but I also see no realistic prospect of it returning, at least not this side of a full societal reset, accompanied by widespread violence as these things often are. Even then, it would eventually be subverted and undermined again because of the fundamental biological impulses that drive both genders: women are biologically programmed to want more than they have, and men are biologically programmed to bend over backwards to try and give women what they want. In a post-scarcity society, that will only end one way.
As for the trans phenomenon, the both the MtF side and the FtM side are motivated by the same radical feminist politics. Women in general are never satisfied by the material opulence that modern society provides them, and feminism teaches them to blame men and resent men for their own unhappiness. The perception that men benefit from some unearned privilege that women don't have motivates some women to want to become men, and as I said above, the endless denigration and vitriol that men are subjected to motivates some men to seek to escape their own gender.
Why do you bother talking to anyone about anything if you genuinely are this nihilistic? I think you nihilist types aren't honest with yourselves. You wouldn't be writing multi-paragraph comments like this if you truly believed it was all pointless.
There is no utopian vision that will produce a permanently stable society that is pleasant to live in. There is no end of history. That notion is liberal idealism.
Are you? Are the rest of the MGTOW types? They have internalized liberalism's pernicious lies just as much as feminists and, like them, they blame an outside identity group for the failure of liberalism to deliver that which was promised rather than acknowledge they've internalized a ruling class ideology that exists to keep them shackled.
For the same reason everyone else on this board is here: to express my frustration with the things that piss me off. If you think there's more to this place than just blowing off steam, then you're the one who's not being honest with yourself.
On this we agree.
Yes. Many men can be perfectly happy coming home from work to a nearly empty house with a couch and a dog and some beer. Our lives don't actually need to be any more decadent than that.
Nah. I've learned a lot about how potentially radical young men get ensnared in pro-ruling class ideology from here. It's proven to be useful in exposing and discrediting liberalism for me.
That doesn't appear to be the case since that's a pretty easy lifestyle to attain, yet men are still quite miserable.
The single factor that plays the most significant part in making men miserable is women. In the past, it may have been worth the aggravation, but now, when you're almost certainly not going to get what you want out of it, it's not worth the risk or the frustration. It's possible to find fulfillment outside of chasing pussy, and it's easier.
trans are 99% men trying to be women so it's an outbreak among men
That's outdated info. There has been a huge surge of FtM in recent years.
nah
name checks out
you will never pass as a woman 😁
Yeah I'm super confused. Who the fuck thinks radical feminists are good? Troons throw around the word "TERF" for anyone who doesn't comply with their every whim so its basically meaningless.
The worst part of being called a TERF is the implication that I'm a feminist.
I'm a TER.
TERP?
TENP, because there's nothing "radical" about excluding mutants.
If that "P" stands for what I think it does, that's a "no" from me.
I was intending "person" This implies that your (and my) viewpoint is the norm.
It's a kind of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons deal here.
I'm all for them infighting, that doesn't mean I'm not aware what TERFs are.
Terfs are funny. Foot soldiers and cannon fodder in the fight against the pedo agenda.
Fuck sargoy for sucking up to that terf cunt. "Hurr durr I HAVE to side with the terfs". Cunt.
TERFs are enemies, yes, but at least they have a consistent framework. Hateful but predictable.
These goddamn progressives without any sense of honor, integrity, or shame are cancer, though. Hypocrisy is a virtue to them.
Tradcons are SIMPs. Just a simple fact. They align with TERFs, more or less. Feminists are their masters, after all.
All the white nationalists are the same. They just blame the jews (of course) and call radical feminists "victims" of the big bad jews.
From what I've seen, only the individualists even know what is going on, and that TERFs are not humanities friends.
Individualists like Jordan Peterson know what's going on???????
Jordan "Women are always right to reject you" Peterson
Jordan "It's Just Because of Their High IQ" Peterson
I just don’t get it. Any ideology that doesn’t account for and integrate women is doomed. You can’t win without having children, so what the fuck are these retards even doing here? Are they saboteurs?
They chose "women" as the keyword for their political agenda specifically because of this dynamic.
You have to fight it somehow.
I guarantee you a ton of women are really tired of people claiming everyone must do so and so because that's what "women" want.
There is no perfect solution, that's why they chose it, but you gotta do something, not just let them gain steam with no opposition.
I don't think they are saboteurs. We're too small to be worth sabotaging here.
Most Westerners have a deeply internalized liberalism that they can't see as an ideological construct that they were socially engineered into absorbing. This included me for a long time and does, to an extent, even now. It's not easy shrugging off the programming even when you're aware of it. These MGTOW types cling to liberalism's false promise of liberating the individual from the society he inhabits and then externalize the blame for the failure to achieve that rather than recognize the false promise as an unachievable social control.
They should all get the rope
But they are a useful fracture point for the enemy.
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I would assume all of us have already figured this out already.
A marxist is marxist, regardless of whether or not they hate other marxists.
the enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, nothing more.
The fundamental basis for TERF's opposition to transwomen (and only transwomen) is their hatred of men. Not truth, not biology, not morality, not defence of children.
Hatred of men.
That's why in the war between TERFs and TRAs I support TRAs because it's about time feminist suffer the consequence of their own actions.
You can agree with someone without bending the knee to them.