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TERFs aren't your friends. All Feminists are your enemy. (cdn.discordapp.com)
posted 3 years ago by anonymous570861 3 years ago by anonymous570861 +85 / -5
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– ArchRespawnsAgain 2 points 3 years ago +5 / -3

I don't understand where you are coming from with this. Do you want gender traditionalism back or not? With Imp1, it was abundantly clear he wanted it destroyed. There are many other MGTOW types who are like that. Spite politics and some LARP principle of "not helping people who hate you" is used as cover for their own brand of radical liberalism. It's unclear to me where you stand.

The trans phenomenon is a direct result of the hatred and vitriol, contempt, malice and callousness that are directed at men in our society by women in general, not just feminists: a phenomenon that has become so commonplace that men all over the place have grown to hate themselves so much just for being men that they're desperately trying to become women.

That doesn't explain the outbreak in trans among women and girls. Trans stuff is pushed by a network of billionaire groomers. That's why it's spreading despite being widely revolting.

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– dagthegnome 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

I do my best not to advocate for anything. I'm not an accelerationist, but I am a pretty black-pilled sit-back-get-drunk-and-watch-the-world-burn type. I'm more inclined to try to understand the cause of what I see as societal problems, not to propose solutions to them.

There's no doubt in my mind that the traditional social contract between the sexes worked better than what we have now, but I also see no realistic prospect of it returning, at least not this side of a full societal reset, accompanied by widespread violence as these things often are. Even then, it would eventually be subverted and undermined again because of the fundamental biological impulses that drive both genders: women are biologically programmed to want more than they have, and men are biologically programmed to bend over backwards to try and give women what they want. In a post-scarcity society, that will only end one way.

As for the trans phenomenon, the both the MtF side and the FtM side are motivated by the same radical feminist politics. Women in general are never satisfied by the material opulence that modern society provides them, and feminism teaches them to blame men and resent men for their own unhappiness. The perception that men benefit from some unearned privilege that women don't have motivates some women to want to become men, and as I said above, the endless denigration and vitriol that men are subjected to motivates some men to seek to escape their own gender.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Why do you bother talking to anyone about anything if you genuinely are this nihilistic? I think you nihilist types aren't honest with yourselves. You wouldn't be writing multi-paragraph comments like this if you truly believed it was all pointless.

Even then, it would eventually be subverted and undermined again because of the fundamental biological impulses that drive both genders

There is no utopian vision that will produce a permanently stable society that is pleasant to live in. There is no end of history. That notion is liberal idealism.

Women in general are never satisfied by the material opulence that modern society provides them

Are you? Are the rest of the MGTOW types? They have internalized liberalism's pernicious lies just as much as feminists and, like them, they blame an outside identity group for the failure of liberalism to deliver that which was promised rather than acknowledge they've internalized a ruling class ideology that exists to keep them shackled.

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– dagthegnome 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Why do you bother talking to anyone about anything if you genuinely are this nihilistic?

For the same reason everyone else on this board is here: to express my frustration with the things that piss me off. If you think there's more to this place than just blowing off steam, then you're the one who's not being honest with yourself.

There is no utopian vision that will produce a permanently stable society

On this we agree.

Are you? Are the rest of the MGTOW types?

Yes. Many men can be perfectly happy coming home from work to a nearly empty house with a couch and a dog and some beer. Our lives don't actually need to be any more decadent than that.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

you're the one who's not being honest with yourself

Nah. I've learned a lot about how potentially radical young men get ensnared in pro-ruling class ideology from here. It's proven to be useful in exposing and discrediting liberalism for me.

Many men can be perfectly happy coming home from work to a nearly empty house with a couch and a dog and some beer.

That doesn't appear to be the case since that's a pretty easy lifestyle to attain, yet men are still quite miserable.

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– Soperp 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

trans are 99% men trying to be women so it's an outbreak among men

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 3 years ago +6 / -2

That's outdated info. There has been a huge surge of FtM in recent years.

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– Soperp 0 points 3 years ago +4 / -4

nah

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– deleted 0 points 3 years ago +3 / -3
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– Soperp 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

name checks out

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