Has VR gotten any better? I had the first Occulus Quest, and it was a fun experience, but I’m more of a console/mouse and keyboard gamer. I don’t have an up to date system that can handle the requirements of a PC based VR system, so there’s that.
Since I’m rambling, does anyone have an opinion on Meta PC’s? I’ve been debating upgrading my PC, and while I’d prefer to buy the components and build it myself, graphics cards aren’t exactly easy to come by at retail prices.
Don't listen to the snek. For all purposes, it is exactly the same. Vr heavily modded skyrim is still at the top with VR chat. Nothing has evolved, it won't until eye tracking is a thing.
The thought about VR sculpting is a huge tell, which makes me think they are a literal child. You are not doing actual work in a 3d space, and never will in your lifetime.
I'm big on vr and 3d stuff. And like you I'm more about the PC based system. I had a cv1, now have a rift s (for comfort), and will only look at quests as a linked system to the pc, I don't care about its standalone mini games really. I want the grunt of a pc.
It has gotten a lot better, but I also think that people need to appreciate its niches and use cases, rather than expecting every game and genre to work.
What makes for a good vr game in terms of movement and nausea is a sense of stability, a cockpit of sorts. So driving games, dog fighters, mech warrior sort of games* are the way to go. EVE-valkyrie went too far in the beginning by not having a horizon though. If you're gunna do a dogfighter in space it needs to be right above a planet or in the trenches of the deathstar, or else its too disorientating really.
What this means for the most popular of genre, the one that moves consoles, fps and shooters, is that you need it to be a bit slower, and be more of a rail and cover shooter. Time crisis would be great in VR. Vanquish or titanfall pilot mode would be utter crap. A big slow titan however is much more appropriate.
Fluid movement has long been an issue, and this has really held the whole thing back. The early shooters like dead and burried had a very clunky and frankly shite movement system. Finally though, we're making some progress here. Since valve gave it a good crack and solved a lot of the movement issues, while also respecting the genres that VR is better at. And it didn't take much, it was some stablisation and more of a fluid glide to location, rather than a disorientating teleport. Thanks to alyx, we're getting a renaissance, shooters are more possible. But it's still somewhat clunky and lends itself to static positioning more. Sport games are similar, the best ones are tennis style things (like beatsabre even), rather than ones where the character moves.
I want to see more rts/tablestop stuff. Tabletop simulator has (last I checked) pretty jank and clunky vr setup but I think a slower paced table simulator, but we need the genre of RTS to come back into vogue before VR which is even more niche is worthwhile I'm afraid.
I am very excited for the future of 3d modelling/sculpting in VR. When adobe bought out oculus-medium I was very hesitant. They dropped some quality of life improvements then did nothing for years. And I was not at all happy with adobe. But it turns out they'd given it to their substance 3d team (a more independent subdivision of adobe that is much better regarded than the main body of the company) and they're making adobe-modeller. Essentially medium 2.0 but with a much nicer looking render, and the ability to swap from desktop to vr. Which really is what's needed. We'll get all the fine control of blender or zbrush, but the actual 3d vision of medium or masterpiece. When ure sculpting a 3d object, seeing it in 3d is so damn important and its finally on the cusp of feasible. Its about to go into open beta, but the videos of it being used, as compared to medium, are great. Masterpiece has also pulled their thumb out and is offering some pretty quick and easy rigging stuff that looks great.
TL;DR : It's not that the vr headset manufacturers have done much to improve, it's that valve and a few others have pushed through a couple of barriers software and implementation wise and really opened up VR to new genres, and people are taking advantage of those specific genres that VR enables far better than before. If those specific genres tickle your fancy, its well worth it imo.
Sooooo .... impassable barriers around players? Habbo raids are back on the menu! Pool's closed!
Excellent, now they won't be able to escape from the socially distanced rapists.
Some feminists are angry at the male gaze
Obligatory Internet Historian video for people who might not be familiar with Habbo.
Now, the question is, are the stingrays coming back too?
Ouch, this hurts
Habbo Hotel 2: The Big Snood
Perfect. Now a group of players can “trap” other users or block access to areas. Pools closed!
I would join up just for that if it didn't require giving facebook money for oculus
everybody has to social distance, or they might catch virtual covid
It never prevented any disease, so it was always just a social cue.
Can I still thrust my hips vigorously, to express my interest in a potential mating partner?
Nice attempt by them to continue pretending that 'Meta' is a thing.
Yeah who actually goes on there? I've never even heard someone in person speak of it. If I had to guess, it's mostly the Reddit-type tranny crowd
It seems like the only viable demographic are those who hate how they look, so trannies and blue-haired whales.
Meta? I hardly even know 'er!
how do you grope something that doesn't exist?
With the power of god and anime on your side, anything is possible.
hahahah these people know less about online interactions and gaming than basement neets coding MUDs in the 90s.
I'm surprised its not 6 feet to prevent the spread of corona computer virus.
What is the point then? VRchat may be a degenerate shithole. But it's precisely that it's a degenerate shithole that people use vr for.
Has VR gotten any better? I had the first Occulus Quest, and it was a fun experience, but I’m more of a console/mouse and keyboard gamer. I don’t have an up to date system that can handle the requirements of a PC based VR system, so there’s that. Since I’m rambling, does anyone have an opinion on Meta PC’s? I’ve been debating upgrading my PC, and while I’d prefer to buy the components and build it myself, graphics cards aren’t exactly easy to come by at retail prices.
Don't listen to the snek. For all purposes, it is exactly the same. Vr heavily modded skyrim is still at the top with VR chat. Nothing has evolved, it won't until eye tracking is a thing.
The thought about VR sculpting is a huge tell, which makes me think they are a literal child. You are not doing actual work in a 3d space, and never will in your lifetime.
I'm big on vr and 3d stuff. And like you I'm more about the PC based system. I had a cv1, now have a rift s (for comfort), and will only look at quests as a linked system to the pc, I don't care about its standalone mini games really. I want the grunt of a pc.
It has gotten a lot better, but I also think that people need to appreciate its niches and use cases, rather than expecting every game and genre to work.
What makes for a good vr game in terms of movement and nausea is a sense of stability, a cockpit of sorts. So driving games, dog fighters, mech warrior sort of games* are the way to go. EVE-valkyrie went too far in the beginning by not having a horizon though. If you're gunna do a dogfighter in space it needs to be right above a planet or in the trenches of the deathstar, or else its too disorientating really.
What this means for the most popular of genre, the one that moves consoles, fps and shooters, is that you need it to be a bit slower, and be more of a rail and cover shooter. Time crisis would be great in VR. Vanquish or titanfall pilot mode would be utter crap. A big slow titan however is much more appropriate.
Fluid movement has long been an issue, and this has really held the whole thing back. The early shooters like dead and burried had a very clunky and frankly shite movement system. Finally though, we're making some progress here. Since valve gave it a good crack and solved a lot of the movement issues, while also respecting the genres that VR is better at. And it didn't take much, it was some stablisation and more of a fluid glide to location, rather than a disorientating teleport. Thanks to alyx, we're getting a renaissance, shooters are more possible. But it's still somewhat clunky and lends itself to static positioning more. Sport games are similar, the best ones are tennis style things (like beatsabre even), rather than ones where the character moves.
I want to see more rts/tablestop stuff. Tabletop simulator has (last I checked) pretty jank and clunky vr setup but I think a slower paced table simulator, but we need the genre of RTS to come back into vogue before VR which is even more niche is worthwhile I'm afraid.
I am very excited for the future of 3d modelling/sculpting in VR. When adobe bought out oculus-medium I was very hesitant. They dropped some quality of life improvements then did nothing for years. And I was not at all happy with adobe. But it turns out they'd given it to their substance 3d team (a more independent subdivision of adobe that is much better regarded than the main body of the company) and they're making adobe-modeller. Essentially medium 2.0 but with a much nicer looking render, and the ability to swap from desktop to vr. Which really is what's needed. We'll get all the fine control of blender or zbrush, but the actual 3d vision of medium or masterpiece. When ure sculpting a 3d object, seeing it in 3d is so damn important and its finally on the cusp of feasible. Its about to go into open beta, but the videos of it being used, as compared to medium, are great. Masterpiece has also pulled their thumb out and is offering some pretty quick and easy rigging stuff that looks great.
TL;DR : It's not that the vr headset manufacturers have done much to improve, it's that valve and a few others have pushed through a couple of barriers software and implementation wise and really opened up VR to new genres, and people are taking advantage of those specific genres that VR enables far better than before. If those specific genres tickle your fancy, its well worth it imo.