I decided to try out tinder and discovered the site is absolute garbage. There are no real browsing options, interest selection is limited, there are fucking trannies who failed to properly disclose their status so they show up where they shouldn't, and it prohibits you from manually disclosing your location by forcing you to use location services.
Edit: Was likely banned for saying in the account description I hate regressive leftists and muslims, and also for saying I hate gender identity. Another possibility was that defending lolicon got me wrongfully banned for pro-pedo speech.
Dating is pretty much over. All quality people are no longer on dating apps. Birth rates keep going down. Relationships keep failing. There's no easy way to fix it like downloading an app. The problems are cultural.
This comment nails it. This shit won't change unless and until the feminism problem is dealt with.
Yeah in the UK news this week was about how 50% of 30 year old women are childless in 2020 compared to 18% in the 1970s
Shits fucked
Yeah, with statistics this compelling, it's not just a simple "well just talk right, hit the gym, improve yourself and you can live happily ever after with your own modern Cinderella."
Yeah... No, doesn't work that way.
Call me when they have the equivalent suicide rate.
I am becoming convinced that arranged marriages are going to be the only way out of this that doesn't involve harems or single mothers.
What good is an arranged marriage if the woman can just leave the marriage?
Dating is definitely harder, and most people are now brainwashed, but it’s still not too hard. Be in the top 20% of guys and you can still meet quality people. Work out, get your shit together, have a profile pic or two that doesn’t suck. I agree it was better before but on the flip side if you’re in the top 20% of men it’s also easier for you on the apps.
I've often said this but no on seems to get it. As a man, you can usually improve yourself to be in the top 20% of men or there about, this is true but you can't make women any better. The issue is that the quality of women has come way down. There really aren't enough quality women out there. Think about this. Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos can't even hold a wife down. You think you can?
The issue isn't that men need to try harder and you'll find a good woman, the issue is that there truly aren't any good women. Just some less bad than others.
If you're looking for sex, you can buy it cheaply enough or find it on Tinder cheaply etc... but finding a woman who is wife material is all but impossible even for the top 20% of men. The only men finding wives these days are men that get exploited by women so if you're a quality man who understands things, you can't accept such a relationship.
See you in two weeks, because that's definitely going to get R16 banned.
Two weeks? Come on this isn't my first rodeo. The mods will ban me 10 separate times for each word in my sentence and I'll end up suspended for 3 months at least.
It's funny, I get away with worse talk about women on The_Tradcon than I do here.
I'm so sick of the idiots there that say that "China made them bad" like all this shit started with TikTok though. They're just the TD version of ConPro posters.
Damn, that's what zoomers think? Everything was fine and dandy until tiktok? Hahahahaha, that's sad. Very sad. But it shows men's ultimate weakness. They want to blame something else, Jews, China, Tiktok, Dating Apps, Social Media, Globalists, Communists, etc... When the answer is just quite simply "this is female nature unleashed".
It's too bad they don't read ancient books about women anymore. Something like assemblywoman should be mandatory reading.
I'm not so into the relationship talk, but this one line describes so much about the world today. Feminine thought has become so dominant among men and women that we don't even know what feminine nature is anymore. (generally people living in a dominant culture don't recognize/know their own cultural traits because everyone else has appropriated them)
Well, I'm sure we've all seen the retarded TikTok posts from women. What they don't understand is that TikTok isn't anything unique. It just happens to have an algorithm that creates insular communities and when women have their own space online, it always devolves into open hatred.
I think they just blame it because "CCP bad" rather than any logic.
They don't need to read ancient books about women. Those were written when women actually hid their hatred. They just need to open their fucking eyes.
The general quality of women have gone down but I’ve still found plenty of great people. Workout, be smart funny and articulate, have money and your finances together, and it’s easier to attract someone. A lot of girls are ‘made’ into marriage material by wanting to get with a quality guy, and you can still do that by being a quality guy. Market is worse today than it was before for most guys but you can still do well. I wouldn’t compare things to Elon and such because those are all workaholic guys that are space cadets and can’t find anyone really that’s not in part after their money. It’s a different game at that level.
I can't say I share your experience. I make well over 6-figures, own a house, I'm well-travelled, I workout, I'm smarter than most people, I'm articulate and I'm funny. I haven't found a decent woman. It's not for a lack of trying either. I've looked in almost every nook and cranny imaginable too. Even tried joining a Mormon church to find a suitable wife. My latest idea was trying some Hutterite colony.
I think lots of people underestimate how important age is. You describe "girls are made into marriage material', well this is true but only girls are. Once a woman is passed ~25-30yo, she's no longer that mouldable. Your ideal age is as young as possible, so like ~18-20. This is specifically why corporations like to hire new-grads straight from university so the corporation can indoctrinate the young 22yo with as much corporate propaganda as possible to shape the person into a good little corporate drone. Did you know investment banks almost exclusively all refuse to hire 30yo+ people into analyst roles? Why? Because they can't shape the people into what they want. They find 30yos have already solidified into the kind of employee they're going to be for the rest of their life by then. They almost only hire 22yos exclusively. You need to do the same thing with women to make them good wives but you are competing with social media, their friend circles, the corporation they work for, hollywood, etc... and while you as the man likely will win-out in the beginning, as time goes on usually these women eventually leave your domination and obey some competing force. This is why it's extremely common to see 20yo girls from small towns get married then divorced by 30yo. They submitted to the man in the beginning then rebelled against the man in the end. This is why younger women are both ideal but also pose high risk because their loyalty to you can be subverted easily by outside influences, which women have much exposure to these day.
Everything I just said something a 20yo man has no hope of truly understanding nor do many even want to believe what I'm saying. My words are something only a 30yo+ man could truly grasp but then the ability to acquire a 20yo woman at my age is nearly impossible. Women closer to my age are already locked into the personality they're going to have for the rest of their life and I can't mould it much anymore so what you're saying about just be a good quality man and the woman will do whatever you want her to doesn't really hold true for men my age anymore.
If I knew what I know now 10 years ago I probably could have had a wife but I missed the boat.
You completely hit the nail on the head with this.
You are correct that only men past their 20s understand this.
Men in their 20s are still sadly too naive about the current state of women that they think the old advice of the redpill/ the manosphere of just get jacked bro, get money and then get women is all it takes to solve this.
No amount of lifting, accruing currency and developing myself as a person has done anything to even start to fix the various problems plaguing modern women.
I obviously still lift and still want to make more money and focus on cool hobbies but it is solely for myself.
None of these things has done anything for me when it comes to coming close to finding just one decent woman worthy of any long term investment.
Men need to understand that you cannot fix female behavior via male self improvement.
Yup, that last sentence needs to be repeated 100x over.
Maybe we’re looking for different things I guess. My 20s are long gone but I still usually end up getting with someone that’s 21. Not sure why. I don’t pick them because they’re 21, though that’s at times a perk. Meet them all on dating apps. I know guys well into their 40’s that still pull girls that are in their early 20s. Here anyway. Probably different in other areas.
Done younger and 25’s and even one 34 and 36 and they were all pretty cool, though the 30’s ones usually end up shooting themselves in the foot by demanding a great deal while adamantly having less to offer and being ill tempered by comparison to their competition. I do enviably well but I’m talking $10 million house type demands while they retire and we hire a nanny. In exchange they’re prepared to offer seemingly nothing. That ain’t happening in a $10 million house. Not that I could afford one.
I don’t mind girls closer to my age, sans fertility concerns, but they usually have such high demands that it’s a non starter. I do enviably well and had to build it all myself, and in exchange usually they’re in debt or have some normal to okay job they want to bail on and what they have to offer is the privilege of sex with them, which isn’t enough. If they were nice and wanted to be a real partner and work hard together or something that’d be fine. I don’t really have high demands. If someone wants the princess treatment though, they have to actually approach being a princess. Be nice, pretty, young. Something.
My last girl got indoctrinated in a hyper leftist master’s program and that ruined things over Covid, but realistically, I’ll probably find someone else that’s 21ish and about to or just having graduated from undergrad and marry that and fill her with babies.
Where do you live? After I started losing my hair and it thinned a lot in my late twenties, I stopped getting interest from 20yo girls. It was actually a fairly noticeable change too. I just find almost all the girls at that age just want to do drugs and party. I've never met a young woman that wanted to get married to an older man and start a family. You may have lucked out in the looks department or location? I can pull 30yo girls that are very attractive but yeah their expectations are unreasonable.
I'm not looking for sex though. I can find younger girls that will fuck me if I buy them stuff (wine/dine them and bring em to spas) but they don't want marriage. All of them have said the same thing. They want to fuck around while they're young and then think about marriage and kids later in life. A couple have even straight up said the highest age gap they'd want in a guy would be 5 years. I once discussed why this 18yo I was banging didn't want to have a serious relationship with me and she striaght up told me I'm too intellectually intimidating she put it. She said she felt like I'd be in control of everything and would be able to manipulate her without her even knowing because I just had too much life skills/wisdom than her so she prefers being with guys more on her level. For sex apparently that doesn't matter or is part of the turn on. A grandiose way of saying she likes to be in a relationship with a man she can control but she's not wrong about anything she said.
What I can't find is younger women that want kids+marriage.
I’m in the Bay Area. There are a bunch of ups and downs to that, but one upside is that there are a lot of people from all over, both from other states and other countries, so numbers-wise you can meet a lot of people. Most of the more based people here aren’t from here, though some hold overs from the 90s and before can be pretty based. I’m okay looking but that’s mostly from working at it, and I’m not a 10 or anything. I am hyper muscular though, so if someone wants someone that’s buffer or super hero looking, I play well to that, and I don’t have much competition there because most people here are tiny and frail, so I’m basically Mr. Olympia by comparison despite being far from that. Went through some health stuff that made that more complicated but I still pulled another 21 year old despite feeling like shit and to me looking like crap. Lived together a couple years or more. We’d have been married if I hadn’t encouraged her to continue on with her Master’s during the pandemic, which is where she got flipped leftisty. I’d wished I’d married plenty of the others but things came up and I was cold feety about it despite them being head over heels and wonderful people. You’re dumber when you’re younger, which I’m sure you can relate to. I’d probably tell my younger self to just marry my HS GF and start early.
If there’s something to me it’s probably more the location. My hair’s also thinning but cut well it doesn’t look that bad and although I was paranoid about it I’ve never had anybody say anything about it or notice anything despite me noticing. I’ll probably shave it at some point, and all my ex’s were always okay with that. A lot of them had only dated bald guys, though I’m not bald. Definitely take care of your hair situation though. Shaved looks better than balding, and I know a lot of guys that get SMP, which lets you look like you have a 5 O’Clock shadow when it’s shaved and you can even have a buzzcut with it and you still look like you’re just rocking a nicer shaved head with a full head of hair under there. I’d probably just go Mr. Clean though myself since I’m blonde. I’m on TRT+ now but I wasn’t when I was doing any of this or them so I didn’t need to that help, though it does make life a lot easier now that I’m older.
All my ex’s wanted kids+marriage. What they all had in common was being either from another country or state having come here for school, or first generation from an immigrant. It’s really hard to live here and most, not all, of them were usually with a bunch of roommates or being a nanny for a family or something in a small portion of a room they paid thousands for, so they come to my place by default. I don’t even have a house, so they’re not coming to my mansion or anything. I have friends whose girls were still living with their parents since it’s hard to move out here due to housing prices and rent. It’s very have and have not here, and hard, so if you at least aren’t a have not, there’s a lot to offer someone, if only to avoid having to make it on their own.
Another thing some, but not all, of them had in common is that they usually had something about them that would make them undatable to a lot of people where they’re from or around here which aren’t really bad things to me. One was 6’ tall like me so out here we’re basically 8’, one was from a country where having a tan and a nice ass meant you were a 2, one had giant tits and was from somewhere where they didn’t like big tits for whatever reason, etc. Some, but not all, were a little bit fixer-upper too, but nothing really that bad. Most people that get with me lose a little weight if they had it to begin with because I’m fit and active so I’m okay getting with someone that could stand to lose 15-30 or maybe more since anyone I date kind of becomes the super version of themselves anyway. All the girls I date are way more than 5 years younger than me, which is kind of the norm in other countries. Not that I wouldn’t date an older girl or don’t find them attractive, they’re just not open to dating in a reasonable manner.
I actually ‘date’ them too, which I’m told is less common now. We go out and do things and eat stuff, we don’t just Netflix and chill, although at times you will. Most people here just meet up and fuck, so I’m Captain Romance for taking them somewhere. I’m also very smart and funny, but you don’t really need to be all that smart and funny, just funny enough and smart enough. If a girl likes you and you’re at least kind of funny then you’re funny enough.
I’m not the only one doing what I do out here. One friend just lives in a studio he rents and does the same thing. He’s kind of short and I’d say just past being ugly and dresses poorly and he’s pretty weird but he’s athletic and his GF’s a strong 9. I have no idea why she likes him but it’s normal. He acknowledges he doesn’t know either. Just how it is here. He’s not white but he’s a legit white supremacist.
That's about right, if a bit optimistic these days. I expect those facts to be memory holed or "debunked" soon enough though. These apps are all going woke, and even if they weren't it's not good for business if 40% of the userbase realizes they're wasting their time and deletes the app.
Try Grindr next.
ok, trudeau
I hear they're letting all the degenerates in and the gay men who were the original target audience are getting the same treatment the lesbians got when dudes in drag invaded their dating apps. Being gay just doesn't net the oppression points it used to.
I saw a ton of women and I think only 2-3 trannies so far.
Muslim women on tinder are as Muslim as a Zoomer who has never been to church is Christian.
Until our degenerate culture infects them with the rotten attitude that Western women have. It's not so easy to find good women abroad these days either. Thanks to social media feminism and other flavors of grievance politics are the only things we export anymore.
Be careful with foreign born women. If you are a Citizen, then she will look at you as "Golden Ticket" to Instant Citizenship. After a few years, she will dump you for another guy.
Some of these women may be part of international Crime Gangs focused on siphoning off your money offshore. Just ask Mel Gibson about Oksana Grigorieva. And Multi-billionaire Kevin Trudeau who's rotting in prison while his Ukrainian wife Natalya Babenko ran away with his money back to Ukraine.
Re: u/FuckGenderPolitics/
None of them are worth the trouble.
Intrinsic value : However much it costs to hire a maid/buy automated appliances.
Nowhere near 50% of what you earn, and that's before the crippling divorce.
yeees... goyim... the goat fucker sand people are good for you, your women are lost cause whores, just shoot them with your sand person wife to get revenge heh heh heh...
yees goyim... all your women get blacked and shat on in Dubai... that is the truth you can see it in our pornos and articles... yees take the illiterate taiwanese wife or Abdullina and make retarded-level IQ babies that won't fit in anywhere heh heh heh yesss...
Can we just ban this fucking shill already.
Either that or deport it back to ConPro, where it can be contained with all the other pro-women marriage shills with zero knowledge of the world post-1945.
In fact, not even post-1945, because war brides existed and proved they had zero loyalty then as well. These people's ideology was outdated before Hitler was even born, they just changed the idea from Satan makes women bad to Jews make women bad.
It's still bullshit.
waaa!!! ban this shill!!! he's bullshit!!! he has to hate White women too just like me and my supervisor!!!
Fuck off NOW shill.
Do you have a 5x10 of Valerie Solanas on your desk or an 8x4?
who's valerie solanas
Ask your handler.
anti-white
Wheres your source of Tinder being 'progressive' chicks? Or having any politics or standards at all
I have used Eharmony but I hear it’s worst with Tinder. It’s much harder for guys because even a below average woman is flooded with messages.
Did they fuck EHarmony up in the whole sector's race to the bottom to be like Tinder yet? I'm not even thinking of dating till I'm out of law school but the last time I was doing so was right before Tinder got big and fucked it all up and EH has seemed like the least worse of them all in the post-Tinder hellscape
Law school, fuck. I can't even imagine what it's like being in law school now if you're NOT a complete BLM-SJW-feminist radical.
Is it as bad as it seems??
I am fortunately blessed with being at a school that, well, I'm not sure of the ranking but I know it's probably not anywhere near the T10 schools. Which, that's fine for me because I really don't plan on leaving my state and have been blessed with having already taken care of the issue of what I plan on doing for work after school.
ANyway, all that to say I don't see anywhere near the crazy coming out of Harvard, Yale, and what have you at my law school. It's still there and learning the true extent of wokeism in the legal field has still been pretty blackpilling though.
In my school, for instance, I have to tow the party line re: Biden, the coof, all the usual suspects. In my first year my fellow classmates (a mix of leftists and conservatives) were all going on about how we were SOOOO inclusive and SOOOO diverse. Quite surprising to me because that circlejerk was started by an open Republican (prob a year or so younger than me, so mid-20s at the time).
As for the professors, there's at least a small handful of open CRT people. It was a big victory for them to get some sort of bs racial access to justice office opened at the law school within the last few years. To their credit I haven't seen their CRT stuff bleed into the classes of theirs I took, but then again that's been things like Contract law, Evidence, various other courses where it's just going through court opinions. I'm sure it's a different story with their electives.
There are professors who are against that sort of thing, but sadly they're either about to retire or are so self-serving that they hurt the anti-wokist side more than help and make everyone on our side look like idiots by association.
Student-body wise, most of us are just trying to get through school, if they have political views they keep it to themselves or, if they're heterodox they'll talk...if no one known to be woke is around..in hushed voices of course. Wouldn't want wokists to overhear.
So, at my law school in particular, it's not as bad as could be feared, but worse than I'd hoped. I really worry for when the older professors really start retiring. We've already had several do so within the last few years and the CRT ones have decades left ahead of them.
That's really interesting, and I'm glad to hear it's not quite as full blown crazy as I thought.
I've not been to law school, but work with many who have. My impression is that unless you want to be a professor (Harvard/Yale/Stanford/NYU are for you) or work for a top New York City law firm, the ranking of the law school is a pretty shit measure for what they do.
I think probably 90% of the emails I see from professors or students today have pronouns listed. Bleh.
I've been following a couple stories recently that are not pretty for freedom of speech (and there are plenty more).
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/the-cruel-and-unusual-punishment-of-prof-jason-kilborn-by-u-illinois-chicago-john-marshall-law-school/
https://news.yahoo.com/upenn-professor-accused-making-racist-221700506.html
https://www.thefire.org/how-yale-law-school-pressured-a-law-student-to-apologize-for-a-constitution-day-trap-house-invitation/
https://reason.com/2022/01/28/georgetown-should-not-fire-ilya-shapiro-for-a-bad-tweet/
Last I was on it wasn’t so bad outside of the usual for any guy that isn’t a 9 or 10. I’ll probably try it again later this year
EHarmony was worse than Tinder, for me…
Plenty of matches. Zero conversations that actually went anywhere…
Yep. For every 100 messages I send only about 1 or 2 reply
It’s funny, isn’t it? I “matched” with a girl on there who was like a perfect match (same hobbies and interests, same sort of… Ideals), and she never replied…
I even took it offline, because… Tangential connection (i.e. we had mutual friends and stuff), and she still never fucking replied.
Needless to say, got unmatched, ha.
Had some other bad experiences there, too… Scammers and the like. So I gave up, after a while. Not worth paying for. 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly, if you can (outside of pandemic times), sometimes it is actually worth moving cities, to somewhere with a more transient population, or just… More travellers, and trying to meet people in person.
Like, moving from a smaller city to a bigger one. Or even just… Travelling for a bit.
I know the US doesn’t really have backpacker hostels, so much, but they are literally the best place to meet women. By far…
Anything to do with backpackers is excellent. Provided you probably aren’t looking to like… Marry them. But even then… 🤷🏻♂️
I’m weirdly like… “Bluepilled” about this. I honestly feel that if you just put yourself out there (which I’m not great at, btw), convey confidence enough, and don’t say anything too stupid, you can probably do ok with this…
I’m genuinely terrified of the whole thing. Like, I have an anxiety complex about it. So much so that I actually can’t think properly, in these situations… It’s quite hard to explain. But it is crippling… So if I can do it, both online and in person..? I honestly think almost any dude can.
It just takes practice. And confidence which I don’t have, lol.
I met my wife in grad school. I had zero luck dating in undergrad, but a shitload of luck in grad school.
I would not have done well at the random dating scene at that point in my life.
Tinder is the best experience of women anyone can get...if they want to feel the same way about them as I do.
You really don't want that associated with your real-life identity, even if it just a picture. At the very least, change that to that you hate Islam.
It is true, even when it is 100% justified, it must be an immediate turn-off.
My account pfps were all found online, and I deleted an old version of this post for privacy reasons. Edit: it's hiding my city/town but I think I will still keep it this way.
I wrote a 2 word note in the account's real name section, and disclosed I wasn't going to disclose my real name in the bio.
I assume you do have a picture. It's easier to find someone in that manner than you think.
Yeah, Tony is right, here…
People here are being more blackpilled about this than they should be.
Tinder sucks, sure, but not every woman, there or elsewhere, does…
But Christ, meeting people in person is so much better…
If you’re not ugly as fuck, or insecure as hell like me, I can assure you, IRL is still by far the best place to meet women.
I meant people finding him in real life based on his picture, people who mean him harm for what he has written in his profile.
Seems unlikely, but yeah, possible I guess…
Unless you live in a really small town, though, I uhh… Don’t see this as likely to happen.
More like, Some girl reports his profile >> Tinder takes it down. That’s far more likely to happen, long before anything else can, lol…
Tinder is dead use Hinge
Hinge is shit. It's also owned by Match Group, the company that owns almost all shitty dating sites and defrauds people by using fake accounts to message people to get them to pay to read it or reply.
I like to shag my coworkers because I can be reasonably sure they're not mental.
What could go wrong.
Nothing that couldn't go wrong sticking it in some woke tinder whore.
How many times have you been fired?
'Fired'? Zero.
I always lose my jobs in mass layoffs of entire departments.
It does. Not just from the sociological standpoint, the way online dating in general is horrible has been discussed to death already, but I'd also like to point out that the app is horrendous garbage from a technology standpoint.
It's not some kind of a complicated piece of software, it can't do anything but filter profiles based on a few criteria (sex, age, proximity), match them, and it has a very rudimentary messaging system. All three of those features were broken last time I used the fucking thing:
Filtering profiles: Back in the ancient, pre-coof days, I was on a week-long business trip to Ireland. One evening when we were in a pub we started talking about the women we kept seeing around with some coworkers who, like me, have never been to Ireland before. One of them says "you haven't seen shit yet, open Tinder if you have it and take a look". He was right, it was a freakshow, but the reason I'm even mentioning this is that Tinder then decided I was in Ireland forever and kept showing me Irish women for at least another month, long after I came back home and was now over a thousand km away. Yes, I had location services on, the fucking thing just didn't bother checking.
Matching: I remember one time I matched with someone. I actually even recognized her, I've met her before a few years ago, so I was like hey, great, I have something to start with for once! Except the profile never showed up in my matches. Why? My best guess is that the woman in question swiped right on me at some point, and then deleted her profile later, but Tinder still showed it to me and allowed me to match with it. Why? Checking whether the profile actually exists before serving it up isn't rocket surgery.
Messaging: The thing routinely loses messages and it almost never notifies you when you receive a new one. I quickly learned that the first thing to do is ask for literally any other kind of messenger. Sending messages over the internet between two points is a problem that was solved before the average Tinder employee was born for fuck's sake.
Tinder is an app with the complexity of a weekend project, and it fails miserably at nearly everything it does. Oh, I'm sure payment processing for the premium (or gold or whatever they call it) works flawlessly - not that I've ever used it, I'm not retarded - but everything else about it is incredibly amateurish. These experiences aren't from when it was new, either, I used it long after it became THE online dating service because it became so popular it destroyed everything else.
I uhh, I have Gold, or did, last time I used it (December 2020)…
It’s still not great. Though honestly, I did meet some decent girls that way, and it is better than wallowing in a pit of my own misery, as I would otherwise, so…
Eh. 🤷🏻♂️ Gold is better, sure, but not worth the price. At all…
Would I recommend it over “real life”, or other things, like… Developing healthy hobbies? Fuck no. But is it better than nothing, if you simply do not normally meet women elsewhere?? Yes.
It fills a hole. Lol.
Fun fact of my life: I was on Tinder for all of 3 days and met my wife.
Caveat: It was in korea, which made it the only reliable option for expats. My wife (not american fwiw) was a phd student in Daegu, and both of us were happy to delete the app after a great first date.
Other side of the coin: I watched some American girls in Seoul use Tinder while we shared a taxi from work. Watched them mindlessly swipe left 50 times, then bitch that the radius was only 250km or whatever. They would only stop for obviously hot guys and even then they were more likely than not to swipe left. Blew my mind seeing female hypergamy in action.
Are you fucking insane?
My wife is not Korean hahaha -- I swore off Korean women long before I got on Tinder in Korea.
In truth I was looking for a fling, but I found someone much more invested in a strong family structure.
Good, they're one of the most disturbingly sadistic categories of women. Heard of Megalia and Womad?
I think the worst are South Korea, UK and blue US states. In that order.
I... actually don't disagree. Your reputation precedes you, but I don't disagree on that point.
To be a Korean husband is to be emasculated at every turn.
(Also I'll just let it be known I know you by name but have no idea what you constantly argue)
I assume you mean username, because nobody here knows my actual name.
As for what my reputation is for, my central belief is that feminists were not simply being satirical when they wrote long winded manifestos about how they would kill all men, but these were actually a plot that would be executed by women aligned with their ideology who acquired power positions.
Think communist "Long March through the Institutions" and you're not far off.
I usually refer back to this specific paragraph, which is the stated goal of the inventor of Gender Studies.
A while ago, Boris Johnson mentioned building the world in a "More Feminine Way" and this raised my level of credibility on whether I was right or not.
Since then, I've been talking a lot about myocarditis and all of my predictions were in-line with what studies have given.
I don't actually hate women, as much as people think I do. I just don't trust them. I have my reasons, I've seen some shit in my life. I'm glad me and my family have never truly experienced the dark side of our "better halves" .
Ah, right. I think I generally agree with you -- but I disagree broadly it's intentional.
You keep doing what you're doing -- I don't think you're wholly wrong. I just think most can be saved because they're mostly 'following along.' If the TV told them to get married and make babies tomorrow, that would start to be the cultural norm.
EDIT: to add: the powers that be would love to use women's inequality as a shield to advance their agenda -- I think you and I can agree on that point
This is something I'm very conflicted on. Feminist ideology states to fake what you believe if it advances the cause, this was in the SCUM Manifesto, which is still taught in women's studies.
Logically, this means anyone who ever was a feminist is unsaveable (sounds like that cult from GTA V. Didn't they call their enemies unsaveables?)
However, it's also logical that most people would join a group that claims to act in their self-interest, purely to make financial gains out of the policy it creates.
Where do you draw the line between More Feminine Way™ true believers and those who are acting in self interest and don't actually desire anyone to be killed, but just want preferential treatment because...everyone loves an easier life.
We do know your name, Jeff. Welcome to the nerd club. Where women are real. They can be yours if you give up all your waifus. and a Dollar
if you believe in hypergamy, why did you get married?
I didn't say I married an American. I got extremely lucky and found someone who resonated with me from the Philippines. Still has that love of God and a great family -- lord knows they've welcomed my extremely white and awkward ass.
But to your implied point: I was dreading that coming back to America from Korea. American women are, generally put, not a great source of marital material. Thought I'd get involved with a church and assumed I'd just never marry.
Fair point and question, though.
well #not all women, that is why.
I love the first two paragraphs! This is the wholesomeness that unfortunately eludes me personally, but that I love to see. Here and elsewhere.
Korea is interesting, hey? Definitely hit or miss...
Women were friendly enough, to me, but were never interested in, y'know, "getting to know you", further...
I think they were more just... Hyper-cautious, than anything. But at least they feigned friendliness, and things might have worked out differently if I had... Done some things a bit differently (I was there for the Paralympics, and made some stupid travel decisions)...
But yeah. At least they tried. Chinese girls I have met (outside China) don't even pretend to be friendly, for the most part, lol... Or girls from Hong Kong, either.
My experience with... Both, has been almost universally horrible, lol... Possibly the worst I've ever experienced.
I'm assuming your wife is Korean, then? :-)
Taught there for 5 years -- meant it to be a one-year "clear my head" excursion and couldn't get enough.
Korean women... eh I dated a few. Both were crazy in completely different ways. I swore myself off of the dating game with Korean women because I didn't want to play 'the game' in Korea. I had a lot of chemistry with the head Korean teacher one year, but it never went anywhere because it could never go anywhere. My meeting my wife strained the relationship but she's moved on and married and we're friends again.
I thought I had a Chinese friend one time in Korea (we were both in the same Korean 학원 -- I really did try to get initiated with the culture) -- thought it might even turn into something. But alas, that wasn't what she was after and -- ultimately we only had our terrible Korean language skills in common.
Wife is Filipina -- she was getting her PhD in Daegu and had designs on America. I didn't help her get here (she for sure earned that on her own merits) but it helped that our lives were in some kind of similar path (I knew I needed to head home and had the 2019 Trump Optimism going... ugh, now I wish I was back in Korea, but I digress)
I forgot this, actually, but I remember when I was in Korea, I also met this wonderful Aussie chick (I think?) who was working in the media compound, covering the Paralympics...
I didn't have long with her, but she was great fun, ha. Also met a couple of alcoholic Russian blokes who were insane, and a few European dignitaries, plus a genuine Venezuelan fascist (who was bizarrely studying over there) amongst others...
Honestly, it was a pretty cool experience, all in all. I fucked up a lot of it, and I would do things differently now, if I had the chance. But I certainly wouldn't take it back, lol. Worth it.
Dating apps only put you down in touch with desperate people who misrepresent themselves. You'll have better luck meeting someone IRL while engaged in a hobby/activity. Mutual attraction is half the battle and even the hottest girl in pictures online could be a dud IRL even if they look as advertised. I wasted years on dating apps and going to bars, then gave up and just spent my free time doing things I enjoyed. Met my spouse at a concert and we're now brewing child #3.
MGTOW is the way. Pump and Dump. If you want kids use the Christiano Ronaldo method.
What was his method?
In a nutshell, hire a nanny then hire a girl to carry your baby. She has the baby, you get custody, and the nanny takes care of the baby while you work. He did this with his first few kids.
That's the way to do it. Might be cheaper than one would expect too.
Way cheaper. The nanny will cook and manage the house and sometimes clean. But not always, you might have to get a maid too. Still, it will be way cheaper than finding some thot on bumble and going down the traditional marriage route. Times have changed. You have the internet and there’s really not a reason to settle down if she’s not in a super high paying gig. Which means unless you meet an heiress to the DuPont fortune it’s not worth it.
You don't want to be with a woman who works, they're worse. Though, a heiress is good if you can get a piece of her estate, even just a job at the family business might make the exchange worth it.
Very good point. Corporate bitches are the worst. C-level or Owner is probably the only thing you want to lock down. Anything else is not worth it. The problem with the mid manager types is they treat you like you work for them and expect you to play along.
Actually, the biggest problem right now is the fact that 99% of women are mediocre at any job they do. Even the doctors are mediocre. BUT academia + big corps are propping women up withy affirmative action in order to boost female numbers.
Men put in 300% effort with 300% competence and 300% the intelligence of what women do but then women still often get better career outcomes because of "affirmative action" which leads to relationships where women have inflated egos and want to be treated 50/50 or even revered because their career success has gone to their head. They don't respect the men because the men earn less than her so in her eyes that means he's less intelligent etc... when it's really just he doesn't have a vagina but the woman thinks she's oppressed and men have it easy. It leads to a terrible dynamic.
That's a smart way to do it. It's basically what I've been looking into as well for kids. I think if I'm still single by 40yo, I might go this route.
It truly sucks but God really likes me apparently and I matched with a very based girl that hates the left too
It’s designed to be used as an app, not the desktop version…
That’s at least part of your problem. 🤷🏻♂️ From experience…
Obvious thing is obvious.
Yeah, it sucks, but it’s really not as bad as people here are making it out to be…
If even I can meet girls via Tinder, pretty sure you can, too…
Use this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/location-guard/cfohepagpmnodfdmjliccbbigdkfcgia
So it will remain broken then.