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Elon Musk Says Wokeness is “One of the Biggest Threats to Modern Civilization” (communities.win)
posted 4 years ago by EJGeneric PRO 4 years ago by EJGeneric PRO +147 / -0
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– acp_k2win 32 points 4 years ago +32 / -0

Not wrong. Unfortunately we cant agree on a solution or even an alternative narrative to present as a counter.

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– Omikron 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Men are scared of the solution. There is only one solution, that's why for thousands of years the most successful civilizations employed this. We must reestablish the patriarchy. Make women the property of men. Do not give women the same rights as men or treat them like men. Women exist for men. Create a society that employs this. Done.

The problem with men today is they don't want to accept this solution because they think it's mean and they want an equal society with women just like men where everyone works together in perfect harmony but that's a complete denial of reality. Until men wake up and realize the truth, we'll continue to degrade.

A patriarchy is natural and that is what we must establish.

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– alucard13mmfmj 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Men think equality will get them pussy cause it shows men care... but it seems its the opposite. Women dont like this, instead they want brutish men or assholes. The chads and alpha basically. Its how rapefugees have free reign in europe. Women vote and support to let them in (brainwashing beta males) and have no problems with rapefugees sleeping with them or being rape by them.

Women, like islam, respect strength.

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– catipillar 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

What? No. We want strong leaders and providers who also display gentleness. A gentle leader is evidence of a reliable father. There are so few of such men, so we take strong leader as evidence of the fact that he can potentially be a good provider and we hope our gentleness can whether whatever gentleness he's lacking because we're not really overwhelmed with options, here. We're also competing with porn and THOTS, so what stragglers are left are usually the ones with the worst masculine qualities.

Let's get real...strong men don't want weak women, either. You want a woman who can manage the backbreaking work of a home, children, her fitness, his health and possibly a job if he's in dire straights...all with the strength to smile at the end of it. That comes from strong, disciplined women and such women don't abide being treated like property. We abide being granted respect and love as we deserve.

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– JuliasEbola00 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Evola believed that once females were liberated that we could never go back, and I see his point. Getting modern women to realize reality, that their place was never anywhere but the sidelines, as chosen by biology, is all but impossible. The whole world could burn because of them, yet they'd never admit it. They've never been known for self responsibility, and that won't be changing.

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– Omikron 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

If all women everywhere are then I think he's right. What has kept the patriarchy in check has been differing civilizations and cultures. As a society becomes weaker through gynocentric ideologies, outside civilizations conquer the weaker ones. Currently, technology allows for total world enslavement to the matriarchy, that's why they push for globalism so much. I think, once globalism happens then total world collapse happens, perhaps even our species or some survive with far limited technology than what we have today and we start the cycle all over again. Men establish a patriarchy, women slowly chip away, the sons of men slowly forget why the patriarchy was established in the first place and everything that has already happened happens all over again. There is nothing new under the sun.

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– FordFalcon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This does make me think how much potential is wasted in this dreaded, al consuming, cycle.

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– acp_k2win 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

So what are the actionable steps individuals can take to forward that goal?

  1. get rich by any means
  2. move to 3rd world shithole and bribe the cops to leave you alone
  3. buy village girls to form your harem and hire goons (who hopefully won't cuck you) as an implicit threat so your harem doesn't get uppity

Thats one way but it doesn't seem practical.

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– Assassin47 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Sounds like the McAfee method. It wasn't very effective.

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– acp_k2win 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I saw in a documentary he got in trouble for starting shit with the locals and allegedly killing another expat.

Not sure how much of anything about it is true but he didn't seem like an "I just want to be left alone" kind of guy.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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– Assassin47 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

lefty propaganda like one time payment for slavery reparations

I like Michael Malice's suggestion of paying for reparations by eliminating college endowments. Create chaos and infighting among your enemies.

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– dnile1000bc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This will naturally happen when society degrades. See Venezuela, Zimbabwe etc. We don't have to do anything other than encourage / speed feminism along to it's next evolution.

Support trans-rights (except against children), let's bring it to its logical conclusion.

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– Omikron 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yup, it's too far now to stop it. Don't have children, support LGBTQ+ for everyone. Tell women they should always be on birth control as young as possible and never procreate. Vote for higher taxes ALWAYS. Vote for more debt ALWAYS. The government should provide free everything, always. Bring it down.

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– dnile1000bc 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I think in Venezuela and Zimbabwe, it took just over a decade for the woke to tear down what took nearly a century of blood, sweat and tears from men to build.

Then the stronk independant womyn who need no man became a prostitute.

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– el_hoovy 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

accelerationism died in like 2018 and for good reason

sit down and breathe, man

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– Omikron 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Women can be useful as property though. They're like a cursed artifact though so always remember they are inherently evil and can turn on you at any moment. Kind of like keeping a pet Lion or Tiger. Just never let your guard down and you're good but that's a good thing. Men being forced to never let their guard down keeps men on their toes. A society of only men might actually be too peaceful and "good" that man never pushes himself for more because that's a woman's trait. As much as women have faults, their purpose is to help men as crazy as that sounds. By women being desirable for men but never actually giving men what they want unless men force it from women it encourages men to keep trying and improves and making themselves stronger. When women have too much power such that men can no longer improve beyond women's power such as now, society crumbles. The cycle repeats once the bottom is hit. Women are both a curse and a benefit.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

And so Imp finally got a soulmate.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yay

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Turned out Omicron is too extreme for Imp.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

What is your end game if not extinction?

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– Assassin47 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Once he's God-Emperor of Mars he's going to keep wokies out and turn Mars into a strong patriotic military culture as seen in Starship Troopers, and when Mars gets the bomb they're going to take back the Earth.

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– JadeMonkey 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

he's going to keep wokies out

That will be relatively easy, for a while.

Any colonists will need to pass a battery of psychological tests, to ensure that they can handle the confined conditions of the trip to Mars as well as in the pressurized colony on the planet.

Plus, they'll need to have a useful skill in order to contribute to the colony.

I think that'll weed out pretty much all of them.

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– DonuteaterReturns 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just go through their browser history and if they don't post the N-word enough they can't come.

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– ippwndu 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I keep telling people that Mars is going to be the next super power.

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– EJGeneric [S] PRO 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

We have all noticed 'the Wokeness' problem for awhile. We have not been able to meme it to death. This sounds like he is just mixing up his marketing campaign. He is an expert of memes and propaganda himself.

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– acp_k2win 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes agreed, but what are the actionable steps that are necessary to fix it?

Preferably non-fedpost actions.

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– Kaarous 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'm rather a proponent of the Pinochet method myself.

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– Assassin47 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Nice, can't find my old comment now but I guessed he would say something like this, also that wokeness a type of "mind virus". Actually I didn't think he would come out and say it so clearly but there you are.

On the other hand I don't exactly trust him. Why did he do an interview with The Bee? Is he trolling?

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– EJGeneric [S] PRO 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

His quote on why did not do CNN. "I'm not perverted enough".

He is building the infrastructure for the great reset. I don't particularly trust him. Especially how he's been manipulating the crypto market. This could just be another branding thing to shake up the market. He plays the 4th dimensional chess people pretended Trump did.

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– zeppelincheetah 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Congratulations, he's basically a glorified IDW member. Wake me when he proclaims that wokeness is caused by Jewness.

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– Totsugeki 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I strongly suspect that they're setting up Elon Musk for a political run somewhere.

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– 8BitArchitect 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

First Emperor of Mars.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

In that case he'd have a better haircut.

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– ipproductions 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

nice try antichrist

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– dnile1000bc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I wonder what was it that tipped him off? Was it that young boys were told they were privileged and had to pay for oppressing women 20 years ago? Was it that the best talented people were excluded from education because of their race (white, asian) and / or gender (men), which has been happening for the last 15 years.

Or was it the introduction of religious cult into our education system that corrupted the scientific process with emotion and "other ways of knowing" like feminist biology over the last 10 years.

Or the feminist lies that corrupted our legal system effectively destroying the presumption of innocence via #metoo in the last 5 years?

Or is it now that women are being hit with the same woke bat they have been using against men that it's finally too much?

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– Assassin47 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Or is it now that women are being hit with the same woke bat they have been using against men that it's finally too much?

Maybe the anti-TERF stuff. Attacking JKR was a bridge too far!

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– EJGeneric [S] PRO 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It was probably the wokeness that killed South Afrika 30 years ago that he chose to ignore.

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– Homopratensis2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He's not wrong about this. Wish he made better cars though.

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– TentElephant 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

You are antinatalist and antifamily. Antinatalism and liberating women from the family are feminist positions. Thus, you're a feminist.

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– TentElephant 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

How'd that work out for Greece?

In our own time the whole of Greece has been subjected to a low birth rate and a general decrease of the population, owing to which cities have become deserted and the land has ceased to yield fruit, although there has been neither continuous wars or epidemics... For as men had fallen into such a state of prententiousness, avarice, and indolence that they did not wish to marry, or if they married to rear the children born to them, or at most as a rule but one or two of them, so as to leave these in affluence and bring them up to waste their substance, the evil rapidly and insensibly grew.

-Polybius

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– TentElephant 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You seem to continue to agree with all the leftist fundamental assumptions. So yes, please elaborate how continuing down this dysgenic path is actually a good thing.

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– TentElephant 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That doesn't explain how society is equipped for a population collapse when the current trend is straight out of Idiocracy, with the most intelligent people forgoing reproduction and being replaced with spiteful mutants in a Spandrellian IQ shredder.

There are all kinds of anti-techcomm arguments that impress people who don’t like techno-commercialism. Anything appealing to a feudal sensibility, with low tolerance for chaos and instability, and a reverence for traditional hierarchies and modes of life will do. There’s one argument, however, that stands apart from the rest due to its complete independence from controversial moral and aesthetic preferences, or in other words, due to its immanence. It does not seek to persuade the proponent of hyper-capitalist social arrangements to value other things, but only points out, coldly and acutely, that such arrangements are demonstrably self-subverting at the biological level. The most devastating formulation of this argument, and the one that has given it a convenient name, was presented by Spandrell in March 2013, in a post on Singapore — a city-state he described as an IQ shredder.

How does an IQ Shredder work? The basic machinery is not difficult to describe, once its profound socio-historical irony is appreciated. The model IQ Shredder is a high-performance capitalistic polity, with a strong neoreactionary bias.

(1) Its level of civilization and social order is such that it is attractive to talented and competent people.

(2) Its immigration policy is unapologetically selective (i.e. first-order eugenic).

(3) It sustains an economic structure that is remarkably effective at extracting productive activity from all available adults.

(4) It is efficiently specialized within a wider commercial network, to which it provides valuable goods and services, and from which it draws economic and demographic resources.

In sum, it skims the human genetic stock, regionally and even globally, in large part due to the exceptional opportunity it provides for the conversion of bio-privileged human capital into economic value. From a strictly capitalistic perspective, genetic quality is comparatively wasted anywhere else. Consequently, spontaneous currents of economic incentive suck in talent, to optimize its exploitation.

If you think this sounds simply horrific, this argument is not for you. You don’t need it. If, on the other hand, it conjures up a vision of terrestrial paradise — as it does for the magnetized migrants it draws in — then you need to follow it carefully. The most advanced models of neoreactionary social order on earth work like this (Hong Kong and Singapore), combining resilient ethnic traditions with super-dynamic techonomic performance, to produce an open yet self-protective, civilized, socially-tranquil, high-growth enclave of outstanding broad-spectrum functionality. The outcome, as Spandrell explains, is genetic incineration:

Mr Lee said: “[China] will make progress but if you look at the per capita they have got, the differences are so wide. We have the advantage of quality control of the people who come in so we have bright Indians, bright Chinese, bright Caucasians so the increase in population means an increase in talent.”

How many bright Indians and bright Chinese are there, Harry? Surely they are not infinite. And what will they do in Singapore? Well, engage in the finance and marketing rat-race and depress their fertility to 0.78, wasting valuable genes just so your property prices don’t go down. Singapore is an IQ shredder.

The most hard-core capitalist response to this is to double-down on the antihumanist accelerationism. This genetic burn-rate is obviously unsustainable, so we need to convert the human species into auto-intelligenic robotized capital is fast as possible, before the whole process goes down in flames. (I don’t expect this suggestion to be well-received in reactionary circles.)

What is especially pronounced about the IQ Shredder dilemma, which passes beyond the strongly-related considerations of Jim (most recently here, here, and here) and Sister Y (here, and here), is the first-order eugenics of these machines. They concentrate populations of peculiar genetic quality — and then partially sterilize them. It is the first-order (local) eugenics that makes the second-order (global) dysgenics so extraordinarily destructive.

So, that’s the problem starkly posed. Rather than reaching hastily for a glib solution, we should probably just stew in the cognitive excruciation for a while …

-Nick Land, Xenosystems

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– EJGeneric [S] PRO 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

He knows Fiat money is bullshit.

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– CatoTheElder 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Jeff who?

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– CatoTheElder 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

No.

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– Assassin47 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ok, just another 4chan rumor. Probably because of his Hebrew first name.

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