Just a head’s up. Rule 1 and 2 will be used against you. Apparently all the other, ACTUALLY violent, and ACTUALLY racist, shit, is fine, but not that.
So “thanks”, Dom. Being exactly the type of janny we thought you were. 👎
Such fucking bullshit, and you know it.
Dunno. Ask him. Seems he’s scaaawweed that authorities will come for this site itself, despite this being criticism of a different country, where the feds couldn’t give less less of a shit what we say here...
Funny that THAT is what prompted him to do his “job”, of all things. Fucking pathetic.
I thought you might be “better”, Dom, but of course you aren’t...
Let me get this straight dom is scared the authorities will come after a site the hosts and was made for The_Donald. Haha ok. Seems like the site probably already has a target on its back.
Whether or not that's correct is debatable, but at least he's using that excuse.
Well she is a woman so its cool i guess. Maybe just claim you are jewish?
/u/TheImpossible1
I am not a woman.
God, just the thought of it...
The time for message boards may be over and the time for action here.
Comment Reported for: Glowie
What is that supposed to mean?
No, don't deprive people of your valuable and highly intelligent contributions.
Your idea of putting them in their place is like offering a bank robber the opportunity to keep the money if they never leave the house again.
check out consumeproduct, if THAT doesn't get banned here then nothing will (unless it's actual cp, illegal, etc)
Meanwhile, the mods on the main site have literally stickied a protest livestream right now.
/p/13zMsCj0J0/melbourne-australia-protests-liv/c/
It's not a direct link, just a string of characters you can post after a link to https://patriots.win/ to get to the other post. Might fly below the radar for a bit.
You know, you can post the links, right?
The issue is the "we did it".
because you can take the tranny janny off reddit, but you can't take the reddit out of the tranny janny.
containment board
You can take the redditor our of reddit, but you can never take the reddit our of the redditor.
yeah except for the most of kias who are ex redditwhores
once a reddit janny always a reddit janny
Why can the police openly plan and use violence, but we get removed for even suggesting a response to the brutality? Fuck it, burn the shit down, everything and everyone responsible for this madness in Australia.
Because apparently the people who "run" this place, or at least one of them, is bizarrely scarred for his own hide, here...
It's ok, Dom (and AoV). Let them come for me. I don't give a shit.
No one else, here, not one of you, is going to pay for the things I, or others, have posted, so STOP FUCKING WORRYING ABOUT IT...!!
But also, isn't it funny how these "internet communities" always, always devolve like this..?
I suppose we should be glad it lasted this long...
But yeah, as I was gonna say elsewhere, "Can't have the normies getting any ideas, right??" :-(
The state believes it deserves to hold a monopoly on violence. This alone explains many things.
The state is a monopoly on violence. That is how it comes into being, its only source of authority, and how it interacts with other states and those in the territory in which it holds that monopoly.
Contrast that with a nation, which is a group of people with a unifying factor, or combine them to get a nation-state, which is as close to moral legitimacy as a state can achieve.
I'm unfamiliar with the semantics of nation and state, apparently.
To approach from another angle, the state believes that it is legitimate even when it is not. This ideally shouldn't become an issue, but a rift between state and citizen should ideally never occur to such a degree as we hear about in aus-land.
So when I imply that the state should not be granted a monopoly on violence, I'm suggesting that it is not legitimate or worthy of authority.
Though I'm not really comfortable with this definition. What would you call a governing structure that does not hold a monopoly on violence? One where they merely hold most of the violence resources without trying to suppress the ability for violence to exist outside of their grasp.
You can't have governance without violence. You can have most of the functions we presently permit the state to handle with aggression by consent instead, but then it is not governance... more like arbitration.
It's time to show them they don't and who really is the boss. Burn it down and smash their helmets. Enough is enough.
If you're in aus-land, I can't rightly dissuade you from that. Just don't forget to make plans for handling the power vacuum.
...finally... time to start the Mad Max timeline
Jannies are faggots.
Always.
You won't find any denying it.
DoM even put the subreddit at risk by insisting that we had to allow users to call the moderators faggots, until I prevailed on him to stop the madness.
I guess he should've done like you did and outsourced it all to kiameta.
Getting triggered by a bundle of sticks is cringe
Well, blame the admins. Because that is something even the KiA mods did not get triggered by.
I can’t even reply to comments on my own “removed” post, so here’s what I have to say: Fuck you, Dom, you paranoid arse. I suppose one of your “good little snitches” decided I was getting too big for my boots, did they..?
You’re no better than ANY Reddit janny. I hope you know that. Up yours.
He is a Reddit janny, you Aussie sperg.
Ah crap, don't blow my cover man.
You're a fake vax pusher and a socialist shill, you had no cover to begin with.
It's called... a joke. As always, our resident Nazi regime apologist is as smart as a box of rocks.
To be fair, you’ve not shown mich of an understanding of jokes, or a sense of humour, here, yourself, so...
Pot, meet kettle..?
Then you don't really know me, so no.
I have no idea how to look at the logs, but there was a particularly active handshake user or two yesterday starting stuff. It's wasn't even something like mentioned here, but the really low quality leftist troll with the CNN mindset that everyone that disagrees with them is a rural redneck worthless Qtard and came to I guess rile us all up about how stupid we are. One of them drove a pretty simple post up to 100+ comments. They are all deleted now.
Cool, I had no idea that existed. Looking at the logs I remember there was another huge post that got really down one of those endless trains of arguing about Jews. Funny enough the top level post wasn't even all that related. Seeing most of those comments I bet that's where most of it came from.
Probably the good Dr. bringing up people blaming Jews as a random non-sequitur and then arguing with people over how much the Jews get blamed for things or how much blame they deserve.
I swear, 90% of what could be described as anti-Jewish posts I see are in response to his idiotic baiting.
There's been a crackdown. That much is entirely obvious...
Any post related to these protests has been targetted by "the removal brigade". Luckily, I screenshotted that shit, so I know what was said, and I ALSO know that "breaking Rule 1" is a load of horseshit, for most of it. Not just me, either...
So whatever is going on, at least some of us are aware, now...
I think at least one of your comments that I saw yesterday went, too, Aardwolf, so... Seems you're in largely the same boat as moi, here...
I can’t believe how bullshit using Rule 1 is, to take down a post about fucking PROTESTS...
I wasn’t “endorsing illegal activity”, you utter moron. I was merely pointing out the inevitably of people getting fucking pissed off. But you already know that. You just had to find something to justify taking it down, didn’t you..? 🙄
I completely agree with you.
Seeing that kind of censorship here is utterly disgusting.
It was clearly a riot. They were literally attacking the cops and forcing them to retreat.
Riots are illegal.
Don't take credit for them???
Have you considered instead of going to half the posts to comment your rants about the removal that you perhaps repost the exact same thing without the "we did this, fam" and it would be just fine?
I tried to tell him that, but I don't think it landed.
You are always a massive janny faggot, so its unfortunate that no one is calm enough to realize you usually are handing them the keys to cheat you out of their way while doing so.
; )
Are you talking about this?
It clearly states that you can post about protests as long as you are not taking responsibility for them/
What a puss
I got highly downvoted on Reddit Kia2 only a day or two ago for saying that these people constantly censor their own community. Both of the mods are attention loving clowns, who re-opened the Reddit sub purely because they like the attention that came with having a bigger audience. Mods are always the worst of every community.
Do you mean where you had a massive sperg-out over a NSFW tag?
Imagine that, wanting more rather than fewer people to see the stuff on KiA2.
Correct.
I don't follow the outrage. He's fine with the post, he's fine with the content, you could re-post it right now, he just deleted it because of the title because of the possibility of legal ramifications. The video appears to be still up on a different post?
If you think his reaction is paranoid, you should be more paranoid.
Bootlickers still licking boots, I see.
Fuck all mods!
Schizo-posting and anal mods, who doesn't love a good internet fight.
Ahahaha never been described that way before... This is fun.
However if that's how I come across, here - jesus... :-S
Can we get u/free-will-of-choice in here..?
His (?) insanity would be a welcome addition to my own, slightly different, type, and I am sure whatever absurd take he comes up with would be most entertaining, if nothing else!
Also one of the few regulars here I haven’t yet seen say anything...
Come back, bot, come back!
The issue with the internal strive is that all of you participating are deceived to do it upon an external suggestion by others (Australian riots). It doesn't matter if you choose to be for or against the suggested "Australian riots"; only that you consent to the suggestion thereof; because that puts you into the conflict of reason (true versus false) against each other.
Form the perspective of the parasitic few this represents division by suggestion and works like a charm to deceive the many to destroy themselves.
The reality everyone ignores is that the internal strive for choice represents the temptation to not ignore balance/choice for suggested choice vs choice. The function of free will of "choice" is defined as the reaction to the function of "balance". That's what choice chooses upon...a balance caused by flow (inception towards death) moving form (life).
All the suggestions of others represents the temptation to ignore balance, and the result of choosing ignorance represents the lack of comprehension about the movement that defines this system. The many are being parasitically exploited by the few for their choice of ignorance (want over need instead of need over want).
Australia...a nation you consent to believe; yet nation represents "a people" and as it looks like, no people are in control over supposed nations, which the few flaunt into our ignorant faces with the "UNITED NATIONS" aka U'NITY, noun [Latin unitas.] - "the state of being one; oneness"; which also represents a sleight of hand for ALL representing ONE in energy (our system).
Not only does Australia not exist as a nation; all suggested nations simply represent idols to deceive the many to ignore sustaining ONEself, which would cause unity (ONEness within ALL) among other ONEs within the same habitat.
The issue with consenting to suggestions by others and the resulting ignorance is that consent implies upholding beliefs; which in response inspires defensive reaction to any contradiction. The ignorant many will rather fight you to death about their beliefs; than questioning their own choices towards the suggestions of others that caused their beliefs.
Riots represent simple energy harvesting of ignorance...going against representative government without comprehending that a) consent by choice to suggested voting ignores having a free will of choice needed for balancing within motion, and b) that the resulting government represents govern (to control) and ment (from mens/mind) aka mind controlled by ignorance; while rioting against the consequences of their own choices.
Choice within balance is not "against" anything, but "for" self sustenance. The few not only comprehend this, they designed "society" aka the suggested beast system as a tool to direct the self destructive ignorance of the many right back to source (transmutation of form back to flow aka death)...of course not before exploiting the shit out of them.
MOD'ERATE, adjective [Latin moderatus, from moderor, to limit, from modus, a limit.]...balance represents the limit for choice, yet choice has the choice to ignore reacting to balance, in return for consenting to suggested choices of others, and consenting as choice to suggested choice "limits" ONEs choices within ALL balance...which causes...imbalance.
The ignorance of the users over their free will of choice causes imbalance of power within themselves and the moderators they submit their power to. Choice within balance represents the power of resistance (form) within velocity (flow). Ignorance also breeds insolence among others; especially those who now wield power of those who ignore their power.
The moderator pretends to act in the name of the suggested idol (forum aka marketplace of suggestions; suggested by the few through their military industrial complex) yet has to face the ignorance of those he consents to moderate. The few already comprehend that the mod will self destruct; the forum will self destruct and the www will self destruct, which is why they suggest it to the man;y whose choice of want over need will always tempt them to ignore self sustenance.
The few comprehend the ongoing movement; within which the ignorant many shape form based on their choice of want over need; which is why they simply have to keep suggesting them to continue. Flow moves form from beginning towards end; hence form having choice to adapt to balance within movement for self sustenance, yet the other choice is ignorance...balance implies need and want aka self sustenance and ignorance.
You all are tricked to idolize what others suggest you to consent to, and you're fighting each other about what the suggested means, meanwhile you all ignore to sustain yourselves by choice within balance and no matter what I say...only ONE can choose for ONEself within ALL.
Need over want; inspiration over information and implication (if/then) over reason (true vs false)...your choice.
INSA'NE, adjective [Latin insanus; in and sanus, sound.] Indeed, as form (resistance) within flow (velocity) we exist within the origin of sound. When velocity (motion) meets resistance (momentum) it causes friction; vibration and resonance...after which our choice of reaction causes resonance or dissonance for us.
The parasitic few suggest insane with a negative connotation to deceive the many to ignore questioning the origin of sound (movement); which would lead to comprehending the need to resonate with perceived sound for self sustenance.
While I do believe some of the rules suck ass, I must repeat a question I asked you before that has been left unanswered: Are you by any chance a homosexual?
Oh do fuck off.
There, happy? I took your bait.
No, I’m very much fucking not.
For any journokikes reading this I endorse, encourage, and incite any and all violence against Aussie officials and their Zog Bot defenders.
Sounds like a faggot… what is his response?
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/13zMs89UcJ/x/c/4JEXsq3b3J6
You said, specifically: "We did it"
That was the issue in particular. You asserted that this sub should take credit for a riot.
Of all people, you need to understand that your government is being very aggressive at pursuing actions against anyone even internationally not succumbing to their demands.
This was a riot. You took credit for it. You tried to have the whole sub take credit for it.
That's craziness.
That's also the only reason it was removed either. If you would like to repost it without giving credit to this sub for a riot, that's fine.
This guy gets it. Thank you. That IS what I meant, after all. As I explained...
But I think he knows that. I think he's just using that as a fairly "bad faith" excuse, and pleading ignorance/that I'm even more stupid than I actually am, to justify getting rid of it. For whatever actual reason... Legitimate fear or otherwise.
Congrats, Dom. By doing this, apparently over those three words, you've caused blowback that you might never have seen, otherwise...
Oh well, I needed to kick my "addiction" to posting here, anyway, so in some sense that's a positive... Fucking pissed me off, though.
You know, you can just talk to me, I'm still over here.
I'm sure I could, but it's more fun watching you run around and Pacman these comments, tbh...
This is far more entertaining than it should be, honestly, at this point.
Well, I'm glad you're at least having fun.
As a matter of fact, I think your post is much better: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/13zMs9HcYP/aus-riots-check-out-the-female-r/c/
It clearly doesn't violate any rules, but is still basically the same post.
We did it - means to have some responsibility in the events.
The scene he showed was of a riot, past the point of a protest. Thus, he is asserting some responsibility towards the event.
I think his point of "it's a joke" is a better argument.
FFS, it was meant to be sarcastic/in jest. I'm not insane. I had zero role in what happened yesterday, and this sub has LESS THAN ZERO.
As I have said before, I'm not anyone important. No one in Australia gives two shits what I think, or have to say. Literally no one. If I'm on some sort of "list", or do get taken down, eventually, that's my problem, not yours.
The fact that you're twitching over WHAT WAS CLEARLY A JOKE shows how paranoid you've become, though...
When I say "we", I mean "The movement", "The Australian people". I don't speak for this fucking sub, or the Australians in it, or literally anyone but myself, and I would never claim, or pretend, to (unlike you, perhaps).
"We did it, fam" was meant to be funny, you daft prat.
Also, you have a fucking weird understanding of what constitutes a "riot", or "tacit endorsement", or even "international law", then, person-who-does-not-live-in-this-country, but of course you do...
Now, I'm gonna go release my anger in some more productive way. Ban me if you want. I'm past caring.
I suppose I should be happy I lasted as long as this, without going into a war of words with you.
Why would I ban you? This was still a mostly minor thing.
Anyways, it didn't come across to me as a joke, but yes, I am certainly paranoid.
Please stop trying to fight me.
I mean, it seems pretty riotous to me? Attacking cops, throwing them back, throwing rocks at them, throwing rocks at the cars. Clearly a lot of public disorder going on there.
Well, this was entertaining to read, if nothing else...
That ain't a riot. Not in this country, and not in the US, either... Not after "mostly peaceful", last year, certainly...
In slight seriousness, can you Temp ban me? Might do us both some good.
But no, I can do that myself. I've had enough of all this, for a while. It's making me look even more mad than I probably am...
Even the guy who was agreeing with you called it a riot: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/13zMs9HcYP/aus-riots-check-out-the-female-r/c/
What the law calls a riot in the US is very small. Basically any amount of public disorder in a group of people can be declared a riot.
Here's one from New York State:
And no, I'm not going to just temp ban you, you didn't do anything to warrant that. That would be ridiculous.
Anyway, it's nice to have a (largely) reasoned discussion with you, rather than "Lalala fuck off, we don't like you. Mute", like my experience on Reddit (not KIA2. I mean generally).
I'll give you that much.
My daily life consists of being yelled at and berated, so... This is somewhat of a nice change of pace, I have to say.
For what it's worth, my experience as an outside observer of the moderation on both versions of kia2 is they do a lot of CYA style post removals for things that could be uncharitably considered incitement. But they appear to be very light on the ban hammer, even with the trolls, grifters and spammy weirdos. Of course it's hard to say really who's been banned, but some familiar faces have been around for a long time despite a somewhat antagonistic relationship with mod(s).
As for the post removal, it's kind of a pain but pretty much nothing is off limits with a little care for the phrasing, which is always good practice on a public forum anyway. Posting like you expect it to be read by a cop and used out-of-context against you in court one day is a good contingency if you're in the habit of opposing big brother authoritarians. For example I bet if you'd posted or reposted the same article with something like "It's finally happening" instead of "we did it" in the title, it wouldn't have been removed as potentially accidentally incriminating.
Stop being so reasonable in the middle of a flame war.
I definitely want to avoid that unless I'm dealing with purely bad faith actors.
You're clearly not, and you're passionate about saving your country from Fascism which is 100% admirable and justified.
Yeah, true that. Unfortunately I think it might be a bit late to “save” this place, though. We’re completely fucked.
I’m really just counting down the days until I can get out... Or something.
It’ll be nigh on two years of this, by the time that may even be remotely possible. Hence the frustration. And I was already, as I’ve pointed out, fairly fucking pissed off with things, even before all this...
Eh, I'm not giving you the "riot" thing...
But fair, re the ban. I guess, as we've all reminded ourselves today, this place IS NOT Reddit.
And I do appreciate this place as a distraction from some pretty... Dark shit, in my own life, right now. Should just probably step back from it, for a time, though.
It's healthy to do that whenever you need to.
We'll still be here when you get back!
*as in mentally unstable.
We all already know I'm far, far too angry about things. But I'm not overly worried about that being completely obvious.
Yeah to me a riot is just a large group of people engaging in violence. It's a simple but broad definition.
Yeah, basically.
I don't want to go too far with it otherwise it would be hard to post any footage of a riot.
They'll try to use any excuse at all. But that's quite different from gratuitously giving them excuses. The subreddit has now survived for 2.5 years, because we have tried to follow the admins' ridiculous demands. Is it worth it? You may disagree, but there are still people who participate there.
In this case: my personal view is that since the servers are located in the US, and Aussie shenanigans are regarded with bemusement by all sides in the US, this ought not to cause to much trouble. But DoM believes that an inflexible application of the rules is the best way to be as fair as possible, and he has a point there.
This ain't Reddit, bruh. It ain't a sub. We don't have to follow Reddit's rules...
You need to get out of that mindset already. Isn't that WHY we came here, to get away from those rules, and all of that shit??
I know you still mod there, but for most of the rest of us... It's why we left. I would have thought bringing that same shit, the same... Stink (not you, the rules), here, was entirely the opposite of what we ought to be doing...
And it seems I'm not alone, here, in thinking/feeling that way.
Many people have tried, but no one will ever get through to Antonio. He's friends with Reddit's tranny janitors and listens to them more than any amount of scientific method or basic reasoning from the people here could ever hope to persuade him.
Heh, of all the things I've seen AoV comment on, the escapades of psychotic trannies are the ones most likely to get him to go off and almost break the subs own rules. If he's a tranny plant he is deep undercover.
Go look at the subs he mods on reddit
The first part is about Reddit. The second part is about this place.
Dear God, Aussies. This is why your country is a shithole.
And you thought the attack on the free internet was just about Reddit? Far from it. You have to keep in mind that the whole Win network is at the mercy of the domain registrars and hosters, which in general are not the most reliable parties.
For that, some stuff is more dangerous than others. That is not 'hypocrisy'. That is recognizing the real world.
But it's mostly Stormfags who are angry that their comments are pulled at all.
Also, I might add, Dom ISN'T being inflexible. That is the problem, here. He's being entirely selective.
If, as you say, he WAS being equally inflexible, such as with literal fascist, anti-Semitic shit (not a Jew. I'm just not a Stormy, either...), or some here literally calling for a genocide against women, then I wouldn't care so much. But he's not.
And you know one of the few things I hate more than a liar? A fucking hypocrite. That's a huuuugeee part of my beef, here.
Apply the rules equally, or don't fucking apply them at all. And, much though you might try to deny it, that's not what's happening here. I'm sorry, but it's not.
I can't discriminate based on ideology alone.
That may violate Rule 16. Some of the very people in this thread who are supporting you were, and have been, condemning me for being to heavy handed with Rule 16, or having it at all.
That would violate Rule 2 or Rule 16. Please report it if you see it.
but you can based on government tyranny?? ...funny that, China can still be derided, mocked and ridiculed... hell we even have the Liberty Prime bot on the subreddit doing that for good measure, but posting reports from my home state and allowing the aus-local users here to give others details on what exactly is happening is verboten?
Not give details: take responsibility for it.
was he taking responsibility for it though? I didnt see the original post but surely you cant take responsibility for the actions of an entire group and even if he does self incriminate how does that affect the website??
He was saying it was a joke, and I see that perspective, but I feel like it crossed the line.
We could have just talked about it and I might have reversed the decision, but he just made this post and told me to ban him. He calmed down after I told him I wasn't going to ban him and I didn't think he did anything that would warrant such a harsh response.
Will it stand to the Australians here? Will the government even care to abide by the law.
In the US, we know they don't. We know they don't in Canada. We know they don't in the UK?
Why would the government abide by the law in Australia?
If they're not going to abide by the law anyway, what's the point of playing their game at all?
My concern is what risk am I taking with the site, and what risk am I putting the users in by allowing it up?
Safety at any cost.
Amazing.
I feel like avoiding self-incrimination is a good idea.
Shut up you cuck censor.
How rude.
Stop censoring discussion
I really don't think I did here.
So you're the admin of this site?
No, but I'm not supposed to endanger the website.
Unless this site's owners are faggots like Reddit, that shouldn't be any of your concern, now should it?
Well, there is an issue with illegal stuff as I recall.
About them but not necessarily what you admit to.
Yes, but I can still protect freedom of speech. There's no government that is tolerant of rioting.
One mans riot is another mans protest.
Sure, but this was actually a riot.
You can't take credit for a riot. Who are you to speak on behalf of the sub?
The aussies are banning websiteS? can they shutdown us sites now? lmfao
No, no they aren’t (well, not shit like this place), and no, no they can’t.
Dom is just being paranoid. Bizarrely about that, of all things...
When they call up GoDaddy and ask nicely? Yeah, they can.
That was similar to New Zealand's action against Kiwi Farms.
did Kiwi farm get taken down?
IIRC they were annoyed by the police, and their web host tried to shut them down, more than once.