Like, I know why the globalists think its important, but for the average person? Everyone knows this about the vaccines, right? How is no one bringing this up everytime the vaccine passports and whatnot come up? It should be talking point number one, right?
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Regardless of topic, the funniest NPC reaction is when they seize up and get this blank stare. They want to understand, but the gears in their brain are incapable of turning.
The most frustrating response is, "I don't know about that." You can follow up video evidence and articles from trusted sources such as NYT confessing to lies and subversion, but they'll pick up the conversation precisely the moment before you unleashed a torrent of contrary evidence.
They find it very difficult to understand new information. The media wouldn't lie to them.
I just noticed that with someone I was arguing with on Reddit about the vaccine. He got a full mental block. He ignored my points that were valid, and accused me of cherry-picking his sources.
Not one politician has been confronted with this logical question and forced to explain.
Even one politician in Quebec refused to hold a legislative debate because he feared it would expose the population to the truth (aka “conspiracy theories”.).
The vaxx pass dies when they are forced to explain this absurdity.
I also think the purpose is to install a vaccine "passport" which will turn into a full social credit score system. Also big pharma profits is another reason
America already has social credit scores, it's just enforced by tech companies on behalf of the government instead of directly by the government.
But its way more dangerous if it also applies to where you go walk into
I've triggered actual brain shutdowns speaking to several co-workers about this exact thing.
Even if you support the wild government overreach of mandating injections and creating passports to enforce those mandates, these authoritarian measures only make sense if the vaccines are sterilizing (prevent transmission and infection).
If the vaccines are not sterilizing, then 1) there is a very good argument to be made that these are not vaccines at all and 2) they do not generate herd immunity. How could they?
No joke, my lefty coworkers have no idea what to say. They can't disagree with what I've said, but they can't acknowledge that the mandates are bullshit either. So they straight up say nothing, give an unblinking half smile, and desperately change the subject.
It's incredible to see it in person.
The increase in fluoride consumption has already caused dental fluorosis to become widespread.
Moderate and severe dental fluorosis, which are not merely cosmetic, but structural damage, used to be rare. Like, 1% rare.
It now affects ~25% of teenagers in moderate and severe forms, and 60%+ for all forms.
It took a while for this problem to occur because the fluride poisoning has to happen during teeth formation to cause the structural damage.
Nobody seems to care. There was no large media scandal about this. The government largely contributed to fucking-up the teeth of nearly a quarter of teens : zzzzzzz.
Thats intieresting case of bad particulates getting in the water supply. Do you have a link that retards can read?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_fluorosis
Fluride has to be applied directly to teeth to be of any benefit. Adding it to your diet in the water has no benefit.
Oh it has a benefit; your body absorbs it in your intestines and it poisons you causing neurological damage over time. A dumb, dulled, unhealthy populace is compliant and profitable.
And that's without even mentioning excess fluoride causing structural damage to teeth.
Relevant medical article. This article caused a normie acquaintance to go full LE SCIENCE!!!!! on me.
Wait wait wait, I'm confused.
How is sterilization related to you knowing that they aren't vaccines and/or can't generate herd immunity? I assume you are using "sterilizing" in a way I don't understand.
Sterilizing relative to the virus, not the human reproductive system.
Easy to confuse the two, especially since the virus that doesn't do the former may still do the latter.
So how do we know that the virus is or is not sterilizing? Vaccines don't typically do anything to the virus, they just elevate the immune response. I'm not sure how any vaccine could be expected to sterilize a virus.
While vaccines won't completely eliminate any virus, they can produce a sufficiently advanced immune response to prevent retransmission, which this suite of so-called "vaccines" does not do.
Is there something special about how this virus reproduces that makes it so difficult for a vaccine to do that?
It's a coronavirus, which are historically low-lethality, high-R, rapidly-mutating virii.
Or it could be that the current crop of "vaccines" are shitty cash grabs and no one has done the proper research to develop a functional one.
They literally like complying and being told what to do, AND will hate on people who do otherwise. This seems to be like a fundamentalist religious behavior, except their god is government.
Yeah. It’s people too weak to make their own way in the world. And they know it, to their very core. They opt for the life of cattle, piglets, the herd. Any individualist not opting for pig pen life is a threat.
THe left has the new religion. The warship of government instead of a lord. That, and funcopops. I blame them for 10% of modern retardation.
That is a large reason why communist regimes have banned religion. They eliminated the competition.
An outside chance of this but it could be: The media and government, doctors, all the libs I know, are hyping the shit out of Covid. How bad and dangerous it is right now. Then, all they have to do is shift the narrative and report only positive developments and look how great Biden did vs the virus than Trump. It's all Biden's brilliance. Right in time for the 2022 election.
This 100%. This is all about preventing the Democrats from getting slaughtered in 2022.
But the elections don't matter...
Cuz Kimmel cried, Colbert bitched and Lemon sucked a dick, that's why.
It's an exercise in seeing how much authoritarianism people will tolerate and how far can government go, in terms of policy, to normalize and encourage compliance.
"If we need to push X measure in the future, how long would the holdouts hold out and what kind of retaliation, if any, will there be?"
As soon as they realized the relatively low mortality rate of the virus, they realized it was a great excuse to run wargames with our freedom.
That's the $64,000 question. Dr. Pierre Kory et al have proven that with early treatment with ivermectin, hydrochloroquine, Quercitin the chances for life threatening illness from covid are greatly reduced. Yet the CDC's recommended treatment is to stay home, do absolutely nothing until you're ill enough to believe you need to go to the hospital. Does that make fucking sense to you?
If you've read about Marek's disease then you understand that there is the possibility that they are willfully crafting a world in which you will take the vaccine or you will die. If you don't know, Marek's disease was discovered in the 70's affecting chickens, causing paralysis, generally not fatal. A vaccine was introduced that did not prevent infection, did not prevent the spread. Fast forward +40 years later and now Marek's disease is 100% fatal to unvaccinated chickens.
The vax may not be directly a mechanism for population control, but you can see the writing on the wall. If you had to take a vaccine to survive then that gives authorities life or death control over you. You will comply or you will die. It's a nightmare scenario. Welcome to Marek's World.
Rights? Well Biden is already eyeing revocation of your rights if you don't take the vax. So you're not going to have any rights in Marek's World.
I'd say the vax is about control. Population control will come later when....oops, some terrorists destroyed vaccine production facilities so we'll be unable to provide vaccines. We'll use a lottery system to make it fair for those that will be condemned to death after covid has become 100% fatal.
I did not know about Mareks, thats very illuminating. Joe Rogan talked about this on his show recently too, that a "vaccine" that doesnt stop the spread only makes the virus stronger.
They are trying to blame variants on the unvaxxed which makes no fucking sense. Even the articles that talk about this are a stretch. Why would a virus mutate if it infects an unvaccinated host. If it infects a vaccinated host and meets resistance it will become more virulent. I'm no doctor though. Just a guy with a brain.
The entire purpose of mRNA therapy is that it doesn’t affect DNA. If this was actually the case then numerous mRNA therapies in use would have had this issue and have existed long before the jab. What is of concern is that the “vaccine” does not stay localized like actual vaccines do.
No, it wasn’t, messenger RNA is a way to circumvent what dna says. The messenger RNA brings the updated blueprints for the proteins. It does not actually alter the dna but changes the signal sent out.
NPCs are not wired for individualism and can't intellectually process information more complex than children stories. This is why it is so hard for them to separate the "health" part from the "geopolitical" part of this hoax. In their dumb brains, they think police breaking into homes and all these abuses on freedom are justified. They just aren't capable of understanding the political side of this fake crisis.
Common sense is non-existant in these types of people.
Not to mention that most of these people are lonely mediocre individuals who found a meaning to their lives with Covid, they feel like heroes.
It's nothing but a cognitive issue, Darwinism happening in realtime.
The absolute best case scenario is that it's only a bunch of greedy, monocle wearing fucks that devised a way to make absolute shit tons of money at the expense of us all. Honestly, I really fucking hope that's the case. But I really, really doubt it's that simple.
Buckle up, buckaroos.
It's a cultural thing. We all have norms we reflexively use. Trust in experts is part of it. It takes a lot to let go of those norms. It's why soldiers drive down the center of the road without thinking about it, or my mother believes I can't cook. Even when things change, and it's prove a false idea, it's a reflex that has to be altered.
Recently I had someone who works at a hospital tell me that the hospitals are jam packed with Covid patients. I asked if his was this way, or anyone he knows. He said no, and it was quiet the last few days, but that didn't disprove things.
Then I explained that the hospital gets extra money for treating Covid. He cussed a bit and then agreed with me. Greed he knew well enough, especially at medical centers.
But I doubt it stuck, because his reflex says it has to be this way, because those he reflexively believes told him so.
Good point. I often ask people that.
Compliance and vaccine subscriptions.
Funny, I've had the idea in development for 15 years in one of my novels of updateable vaccines as needed in the age of space travel (immunity boosters to prevent plague ships, anti-aging, fortifying against genetic drift/degradation caused by radiation and environmental factors on other worlds) because it would make sense, and these assholes jumped the gun but blow it by trying to use snakeoil.
It's not important,to us.
It's important to them.
Two reasons:
Politics - The government has to be seen to be doing something to tackle the issue, since to ignore it would be political suicide. But if they push vaccines, and the number of deaths and hospitalizations drop, they generate the perception they are acting responsibly and this can actually boost their approval ratings.
Lack of Infrastructure - most governments know that if their public health infrastructure cannot cope with a massive influx of patients, especially in ICU's, where places are very limited. Delta being much more virulent, risks exposing this information to the general public, and the resulting optics would be terrible for the government. Promoting a vaccine that reduces the severity of the symptoms not only avoids this exposure, but shifts the onus back onto the public (YOU need to do the right thing and take the jab, if not enough people vaccinated, it's YOUR fault)
How else can they reduce the male population by 90%?
I wonder if it's possible to create something that would reduce the chance of conceiving a male and put it in the vaccine.
No way.
TPTB are still going to need disposable men in the form of hard laborers and cannon fodder.
Yeah, exactly. Dead people dont generate revenue.
Your retardation truly knows no bounds.
Eh, I'd say that the limit of Imp1's retardation is strictly less than your retardation.
Side note: I typically don't use "retarded" as a descriptor but I find that when communicating with people, it's best to attempt to meet them at their level. So I'll just say "you're welcome" for that in advance.
Neat.
If the vaccine doesn't work for the intended purpose, what is the point of having everyone get it?
It's either something extremely nefarious or the traditional corruption with everyone making bank off the Big Pharma shares.
It's funny how all the pro-vaxxers never respond to this common conundrum you brought up regarding the vaccines.
If people are still getting COVID and dying from COVID even after two vaccine shots, then what's the point?
Some idiots say "it's to lessen the symptoms", but most healthy people truck through COVID like the common cold. So what "symptoms" in particular are the vaccines lessening? And how is lessening such mild symptoms worth the risk of 50+ SAEs that will either permanently ruin your life or kill you?
They think covid is 28 days later. But its more like scooby doo solves the mystery of the fake haunted zoo.
I think it's so they can put chips in us. The vaccine doesn't have it, but we will bow to it if we get freedom soon enough.
No, they absolutely don't.
You can check my recent comment history on Reddit. I'm being very careful about how I'm arguing with a Leftist who came to the sub, and there is this mantra about the vaccine reducing the chance of infection by 95%.
From what I can see, it's mostly bunk statistics because the vaccine mechanism can't prevent infections generally, according to the data, it reduces symptoms.
However, a study came out that created the 95% number and the activists have been running with that ever since. Even when Israel comes out and says that the vaccine reduced the likelihood of infection by (IIRC) 37%.
The activist was actually stunned that anyone would think the vaccine wouldn't reduce infections, even though that's not how vaccines work. He didn't even want to acknowledge that Gibraltar and the HMS Queen Elizabeth naval strike group had near 100% rates of double vaccinations and both faced outbreaks of COVID. He cited an MSNBC article, that basically danced around the fact that the vaccine's don't prevent infection, and he still tried to argue against what his own sources said.
He claimed I was cherry picking sources when I showed him his sources.
... oof.
Honestly, it might be important for some people to take the vaccine because there is evidence that the vaccine seems to allow for individuals to avoid being hospitalized if they become infected with COVID. If you're morbidly obese or very old, it is worth talking to your doctor and considering if or when you should get the vaccine based on your individual circumstances. Having COVID damage your lung tissue, reduce your quality of life, or even keep you out of work for a long time might not be worth it.
Beyond that, it's not really worth it.
No shit it'll be worth it for some people to take it. Im talking about how the globalists are pushing for everyone to take it, or you're not allowed to go to the gym or whatever. Literally this is happening in France and San Francisco right now.
Some people get the virus and don't even know that they had it, the symptoms were that mild. You might have had a sneezing fit or something months ago and had covid , but you wrote it off as too much pollen in the air or something and paid it no mind.
And there is a test that can show if you have antibodies because of surviving a mild infection like this, and if your antibody levels are high enough it will be a valid excuse not to get the vaccine. The logic being that since you are already immune giving you the vaccine would be a waste of resources.
Because statistically the vaccine reduces the effect of the virus.
If you can get through it without taking up a hospital bed then that bed is free for someone who can't fix whatever their problem is at home.
It's even more important for ICU beds.
If this were the case, then why are the same people okay with third world migrants flooding into the country and then spreading them around various parts of the country? Many if these migrants have tested positive.
Those who test positive are treated.
Are we pretending that BP has a 100% catch rate now? Nobody crosses the border without submitting to a swab?
My guess is that the number of covid positive people that make it past BP is an awful lot lower than in the the 100,000,000 or so Americans who haven't been vaccinated yet.
Increases.