They wont call it communism just like they don't now. They know the communism brand is tainted
They will call it "diversity", "inclusion", "feminism", "environmentalism", "civil rights", "reparations", "equity". They will "criticize" problems that are either real or made up and see who responds positively. Then demonize and cause harm by any means available to anyone who responds negatively. Every definition is a twisted motte and bailey where they willl retreat to the motte and use any disagreement with the premise as a pretext to attack.
But the results they want are the same as plain old communism. Erasure of the rights of property and association mostly by extremely selective enforcement of those rights by the central authority. Because they know that unless those rights are destroyed the "revolution" cant succeed as individuals can easily ignore and exclude the agitators and still live normal lives.
We don't need to ban communism, we need to make individuals AFRAID to publicly support communism. Just like the commies are doing now to any patriot who doesn't have fuck you money.
The model legislation IMO comes from Singapore, of all places.
(1) If an Act recites that action has been taken or threatened by any substantial body of persons, whether inside or outside Singapore —
(a) to cause, or to cause a substantial number of citizens to fear, organised violence against persons or property;
(b) to excite disaffection against the President or the Government;
(c) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or other classes of the population likely to cause violence;
(d) to procure the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of anything by law established; or
(e) which is prejudicial to the security of Singapore,
I don't think he meant freedom itself is actually a meme. He meant that in the mainstream people don't talk about freedom truthfully these days. Saying the American military fights for freedom is a joke - it's obviously all about special interests. There hasn't been a war for freedom since perhaps the Civil War - which the freedom fighters lost, by the way.
The only thing I agree with you on is that the United States military has been used by the globalists in control of our government to enact their will across the globe, often to no benefit, or detriment, to the American people and the world at large, and has been doing so for decades. Most citizens and most military members don't fully realize the extent because of how much propaganda and censorship of the truth has been done by the government/globalists.
You disagree with me on what the group of people are called, but agree completely on what they're doing, and asserting that they're evil. The term globalists has been in the lexicon for a while, and I believe it's more accurate than your use of "capitalist". These people will use any means to control others, including capitalism, free trade, tariffs, socialism, communism, war, peace, etc. They don't care about what they do or how they get there, they care about the end result: gaining power and controlling more people. They're no more capitalists than they are socialists.
You're making assumptions about me that aren't true. The current system can't be fixed, it's become too corrupted. It will fail, inevitably, with input of force from those fighting it (in any way) or not. All things that go against what is true and logical always fail.
I mean.. communism can still be defeated with gunfire right? Because Biden apparently said you need nuclear weapons to beat a communist government. But I've never heard of nukes being needed to defeat communism.
Not disagreeing, but I think the 'communist' personality type has been around long before communism. It seems to exist to bring everyone down, and it is extremely pathological.
They don't see it that way. In their worldview they are the good guys, fighting against our manifestation of evil of greed and heartlessness, which in our terms, is just wanting to do what is best for ourselves, the individual. We don't see the world the same way and it's infuriating to try to live with each other.
I feel like we've gone full circle and are mass misquoting the paradox of tolerance just like them.
If people want to present an argument for a communist system, let them. If their ideas work then great and if they don't then sure. We hate when they try to regulate the marketplace of ideas so I have a lot of trouble getting behind anyone who does even if they agree with us.
We just need to put it in a silly comic strip to go full horseshoe. Hell, the top comment is already someone rebranding communism to mean all the things they don’t like. Is this thread even real!?
Don't tell me, communists don't allow opposing viewpoints. They don't allow opposition. Therefore we should not tolerate them?
See, we're back to getting the paradox of tolerance just as wrong as the SocJus crowd do. If someone wants to put up a logical argument for communism, let them. Let the argument stand on its own merits. Don't just hammer down censorship and destruction because it's one of "their" arguments.
Only fringe nutjobs still call themselves actual communists.
Most of our rulers nowadays are Fabians anyways, not commies. They believe in gradually changing the culture and laws instead of revolution, and it's working.
They disagee with Bill Ayers' violent bombing tactics, but that disagreement is only a tactical disagreement, and these disagreements only really apply in first world countries where there are lots of camera lenses, as they are more than happy to employ violence beyond them. Why use bombs and tarnish your movement as a violent fringe group when propaganda and community organizing works so much better? Why bother with shit like the Weather Underground and Bombing when Alinsky has shown them a new way where they get what they want and can also claim the moral high ground?
US banned communism. In the 50's I think? The law was never enforced. So could we actually ban communism?
If we did, you claim nothing changes. I say everything changes, from school boards to Congress to the WH. Further, I think we get nowhere without enforcing such a ban, vigilante style since we have no justice system anymore.
Not communism, subversion. Subversive types, as I am sure we are all aware at this point, dont have strict dogma or doctrine. They will just change the meaning of words, lie and subvert by whatever means necessary.
Yes, modernized. OWG (One World Government) with all the world's resources controlled by as few as possible. Us serfs turned into a sub-species that's been made easier to control, huge technological gaps, with the knights in this Country being the 3 letters, mostly.
1984 really was an instruction manual. The ideal world of the elites will be competing trading blocs of the husks of dead nations, with constant false conflicts to keep the population distracted. Some of them will be communist or capitalist in name only, but all run by totalitarians. The old banker families of the west and the CCP leaders are currently negotiating the specifics.
1984 was written about then current reality in surreal form as a way to bypass censorship. I agree that the elite have taken it as a training manual, demonstrating how sick they are.
Their plans are not at all guaranteed to work. Resistance is not futile! One good sign is how many who have taken the jab now regret it. This is one area we can work on ...
If you give a fat white kid a guillotine and command of the nation's political class and by extension police class, it doesn't matter how fat or how kid they are, they can still harm many people.
It isn't the communists that disproportionately lead education, and it isn't the Jews that disproportionately lead industries... Have you become an Impossible1 Disciple? Is it the women that disproportionately command social networks?
Kidding, kidding. I know the real suspect, I hinted at it above by saying "disproportionately" three times. I know it's the intersectionalists, those who actually care about the fact those "disproportionately"s exist (fuck 'em, disproportionality SHOULD exist). But they are a branch, well, more an evolution or mutation, of communist ideology.
Best I can do for ya: the perpetrators have sufficiently laundered their attacks, over the course of almost a century commanding academia and media, such that our enemy is now comprised of a much broader ethnic coalition than existed at the inception of their movement.
They wont call it communism just like they don't now. They know the communism brand is tainted
They will call it "diversity", "inclusion", "feminism", "environmentalism", "civil rights", "reparations", "equity". They will "criticize" problems that are either real or made up and see who responds positively. Then demonize and cause harm by any means available to anyone who responds negatively. Every definition is a twisted motte and bailey where they willl retreat to the motte and use any disagreement with the premise as a pretext to attack.
But the results they want are the same as plain old communism. Erasure of the rights of property and association mostly by extremely selective enforcement of those rights by the central authority. Because they know that unless those rights are destroyed the "revolution" cant succeed as individuals can easily ignore and exclude the agitators and still live normal lives.
We don't need to ban communism, we need to make individuals AFRAID to publicly support communism. Just like the commies are doing now to any patriot who doesn't have fuck you money.
The model legislation IMO comes from Singapore, of all places.
So dictatorship.
This is probably the most ripe-for-exploitation thing I've seen. That's literally what these retards are going for when they post this: https://twitter.com/mrs_lerner/status/1409224273282150402
The trouble is you can't really legislate anything good because it's always a double edged sword
Fuck you with that "freedom is a meme" bs. Die, then go to hell; to die eternally.
I only wish my comment weren't so vague.
I don't think he meant freedom itself is actually a meme. He meant that in the mainstream people don't talk about freedom truthfully these days. Saying the American military fights for freedom is a joke - it's obviously all about special interests. There hasn't been a war for freedom since perhaps the Civil War - which the freedom fighters lost, by the way.
Freedom is a meme is an entirely separate issue from whatever our military does, or why.
OP's explanation of what he means by "freedom is a meme" could be helpful.
Until then, kill a commie for Mommy ;)
Radical Liberalism. Radical Liberty. Radical Freedom.
You don't know what words mean.
The only thing I agree with you on is that the United States military has been used by the globalists in control of our government to enact their will across the globe, often to no benefit, or detriment, to the American people and the world at large, and has been doing so for decades. Most citizens and most military members don't fully realize the extent because of how much propaganda and censorship of the truth has been done by the government/globalists.
You disagree with me on what the group of people are called, but agree completely on what they're doing, and asserting that they're evil. The term globalists has been in the lexicon for a while, and I believe it's more accurate than your use of "capitalist". These people will use any means to control others, including capitalism, free trade, tariffs, socialism, communism, war, peace, etc. They don't care about what they do or how they get there, they care about the end result: gaining power and controlling more people. They're no more capitalists than they are socialists.
You're making assumptions about me that aren't true. The current system can't be fixed, it's become too corrupted. It will fail, inevitably, with input of force from those fighting it (in any way) or not. All things that go against what is true and logical always fail.
I wish you a happy deportation to China.
As someone, who lived a decade under communism, I wholeheartedly agree.
what were helicopters invented for again?
Vertical takeoff. And landing.
Why only the gulag?
Does that not leave air in the messenger' lungs?
Unless of course you put the gulag at the bottom of the Marianas trench
Or the lead in at 3200 fps.
Or the 10' drop, with sudden deceleration by rope. I'm a fan of this, ammo is expensive, rope is cheap.
And reusable. It's environmentally friendly!
I mean.. communism can still be defeated with gunfire right? Because Biden apparently said you need nuclear weapons to beat a communist government. But I've never heard of nukes being needed to defeat communism.
Not disagreeing, but I think the 'communist' personality type has been around long before communism. It seems to exist to bring everyone down, and it is extremely pathological.
Correct. Political leftism is simply a manifestation of human evil. Today's radical leftists actively promote deadly sins straight out of the bible.
Pride = literal pride parades
Lust = sex work, porn, pansexuality, polyamory, etc.
Gluttony = fat acceptance
Sloth = welfare
Wrath = riots
Envy = communism
Everything that is degenerate and corruptive and destructive to man and society is championed and celebrated by the left.
They don't see it that way. In their worldview they are the good guys, fighting against our manifestation of evil of greed and heartlessness, which in our terms, is just wanting to do what is best for ourselves, the individual. We don't see the world the same way and it's infuriating to try to live with each other.
Now that just sounds like a biography of Karl Marx.
We should not merely ban communism. We should execute its adherents.
I feel like we've gone full circle and are mass misquoting the paradox of tolerance just like them.
If people want to present an argument for a communist system, let them. If their ideas work then great and if they don't then sure. We hate when they try to regulate the marketplace of ideas so I have a lot of trouble getting behind anyone who does even if they agree with us.
inb4 downvoted.
We just need to put it in a silly comic strip to go full horseshoe. Hell, the top comment is already someone rebranding communism to mean all the things they don’t like. Is this thread even real!?
It seems unfortunate that there are so many here willing to shirk their principles just to get a win.
You don't get to decide my principles
If it's only okay to do something to someone if they happen to be something dislike, you don't have any to start with.
Again you're assuming I ever held those principles in the first place
I've been here long enough to remember when we complained about the "no bad tactics, only bad targets" mindset.
You've also apparently been here long enough to think you can decide my values
Don't tell me, communists don't allow opposing viewpoints. They don't allow opposition. Therefore we should not tolerate them?
See, we're back to getting the paradox of tolerance just as wrong as the SocJus crowd do. If someone wants to put up a logical argument for communism, let them. Let the argument stand on its own merits. Don't just hammer down censorship and destruction because it's one of "their" arguments.
Marketplace of ideas, my dude.
Sucks when SocJus try to regulate which ideas are allowed and it sucks when we do too.
Only fringe nutjobs still call themselves actual communists.
Most of our rulers nowadays are Fabians anyways, not commies. They believe in gradually changing the culture and laws instead of revolution, and it's working.
They disagee with Bill Ayers' violent bombing tactics, but that disagreement is only a tactical disagreement, and these disagreements only really apply in first world countries where there are lots of camera lenses, as they are more than happy to employ violence beyond them. Why use bombs and tarnish your movement as a violent fringe group when propaganda and community organizing works so much better? Why bother with shit like the Weather Underground and Bombing when Alinsky has shown them a new way where they get what they want and can also claim the moral high ground?
The Fabian Society advances communism. Don't be deceived. It's not one or the other.
Yes, obviously.
My point is that we can ban "communism" yesterday and nothing changes.
I'm not sure either proposition is true.
US banned communism. In the 50's I think? The law was never enforced. So could we actually ban communism?
If we did, you claim nothing changes. I say everything changes, from school boards to Congress to the WH. Further, I think we get nowhere without enforcing such a ban, vigilante style since we have no justice system anymore.
No longer even this now that they've completely coopted the media and big tech to censor the actions of their militant wing.
Not communism, subversion. Subversive types, as I am sure we are all aware at this point, dont have strict dogma or doctrine. They will just change the meaning of words, lie and subvert by whatever means necessary.
Communism is subversive. The goal of the elite is feudalism.
Yes agreed, but a modern form of feudalism where they dont have any obligations to the masses.
Yes, modernized. OWG (One World Government) with all the world's resources controlled by as few as possible. Us serfs turned into a sub-species that's been made easier to control, huge technological gaps, with the knights in this Country being the 3 letters, mostly.
1984 really was an instruction manual. The ideal world of the elites will be competing trading blocs of the husks of dead nations, with constant false conflicts to keep the population distracted. Some of them will be communist or capitalist in name only, but all run by totalitarians. The old banker families of the west and the CCP leaders are currently negotiating the specifics.
1984 was written about then current reality in surreal form as a way to bypass censorship. I agree that the elite have taken it as a training manual, demonstrating how sick they are.
Their plans are not at all guaranteed to work. Resistance is not futile! One good sign is how many who have taken the jab now regret it. This is one area we can work on ...
They'd just end up reframing it and call it something else .
It's like you're still living in the Cold War era. It is not communists who are the threat today, however you decide to call them.
The problem is white suburban kids who were sheltered in their white middle class life and their parents didn't teach them about life and God's plan.
Have you not seen any BLM riot? 90% white fat kids.
This is the paramilitary of communists.
Be afwaid, be vewy afwaid, lol
Seriously though, we need to stop their bs. Historically they will be supplied with machine guns and RPGs if we give them enough time.
If you give a fat white kid a guillotine and command of the nation's political class and by extension police class, it doesn't matter how fat or how kid they are, they can still harm many people.
The deadliest thing in this world is a Marine and his rifle ? nothing has changed from that standpoint.
Nah, I'm not retarded enough to consider people my enemy based on their ethnicity.
So...
It isn't the communists that disproportionately lead education, and it isn't the Jews that disproportionately lead industries... Have you become an Impossible1 Disciple? Is it the women that disproportionately command social networks?
Kidding, kidding. I know the real suspect, I hinted at it above by saying "disproportionately" three times. I know it's the intersectionalists, those who actually care about the fact those "disproportionately"s exist (fuck 'em, disproportionality SHOULD exist). But they are a branch, well, more an evolution or mutation, of communist ideology.
Best I can do for ya: the perpetrators have sufficiently laundered their attacks, over the course of almost a century commanding academia and media, such that our enemy is now comprised of a much broader ethnic coalition than existed at the inception of their movement.
So it is an ethnicity for you now?