This explains the self hating whites phenomena
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I seen this before but looking at the 18-29 White female liberals section still remains a huge WTF moment.
Women are emotional children that have been told to take on masculine traits and do social and financial combat with full-grown men.
is it even possible to hate yourself and not be a complete nutjob?
I'd assume the answer is yes. Being a nutjob can make you hate yourself and hating yourself can make you a nutjob, but if it's something like survivor's guilt they might recover once the extraordinary stress is removed and they've had time to talk to a decent person.
They don't hate themselves. Just everyone else.
It's possible to hate yourself and be a moderate nut-job, but not a complete nut-job.
Shame has it's advantages, but some people will take it a bit far due to some earlier mental problems.
Hatred is the precursor to being a nutjob.
That's not the only significant difference based on sex. Check out white conservative 30-49 and 50-64. In those too, the error bars don't even overlap. White moderate 30-49 comes close too.
You're actually missing the point OP.
These Leftists don't hate whites because they are mentally ill. They are being genuinely damaged by one of the largest, industrial scale, emotional and psychological abuse systems that the world has ever seen.
The propaganda, including racist self-hatred, is what's making them mentally ill.
A normal dog is a normal dog.
A normal dog that is ritualistically screamed at, struck, forced to live in a pod, and eat bugs, becomes a dog that will adapt such terrible adaptive behaviors that it will be classified as mentally ill if ever seen by a vet.
The same goes with people.
What happens when you take a normal person, imbue them with nihilism, remove the concept of privacy, make perpetual social signaling the defining feature of their life, bombard them with resentment ideology & propaganda, promote that it's good to hate themselves, promote anti-humanity ideologies, make them eager to live in a pod, make them eager to eat bugs, expose them to 24/7 emotional incontinence and manipulation by the media, ask them to mutilate and castrate themselves, and teach them that the most narcissistic and aggrieved sociopath is the ideal form of a hero?
You get Leftists who are clearly mentally ill... because they've been violently abused.
The fact that this has been done to people I love angers me greatly. It is an unforgivable crime against me and my family.
Absolutely. How can we ever reclaim our families at this point? It's like we need some absolute crazy flash point in politics, but there's no possible extreme example that would work for it. My entire family's been parasetized by Ostrich Parasitic Syndrome, same for coworkers, and for friends. What do you do then? Just become a hermit? I'm asking rhetorically, but my only solution is to actually physically distance myself from these people. It's isolating for sure, but it's better than living a lie for social acceptance.
Agreed, it's an unforgivable crime due to it's sheer scope, voracity, and continuation by pure greed.
Life is about overcoming challenges. We’re all taught lies growing up, things we must grow out of.
Agreed, but an industrialized system of abuse? That's more than just growing out of it, and anyone participating in that system should be utterly condemned for their responsibility in what amounts to a genuine crime against humanity.
True, but allow me to explain. I grew up being taught an incredible number of lies. From school, the media, my own parents, etc. Yet here I am today and I am not a drooling libtard. Why is that? I watched the same ads and was told the same stuff about how our continent wouldn’t have any trees on it by 2020, and other such nonsense.
I’m not smarter than other people. I think intelligence may even work against you because it can grow your ego to the point that you look down on others who don’t agree with you.
All I know is that I questioned things. I was open to hearing alternatives. I did research and kept my mind open. I let myself be wrong and dropped my pride and arrogance. I stopped hating other people and judging them because I became a Christian and saw that I was no better, no more moral than anyone else.
So when I hear you say that they were psychologically damaged, I think, who wasn’t? There has to be some difference that led them to stay as they are and for me to change. We had the same abuse, so it has to be something else. That’s why I think they have equal responsibility and blame.
If someone keeps lying to you and you keep believing them, aren’t you as much to blame as the liar?
My guess is that is a side effect of multiculturalism, younger generations are what 50% white? If minorities are taught to hate white people, which is easy since tribalism is a powerful thing, and white people want to be part of the group then they have to accept the white hate.
White leftists have pumped trillions of dollars and infinite labor into their efforts to fix black communities in America, and the end result has somehow been further regression of those communities. And because white leftists cannot accept alternative explanations for their failure - such as the idea that black culture in America is regressive and unchangeable - then white civilization itself is to blame. If progressive white policy can't fix all of the wealth and achievement and incarceration gaps, then the problem is white society - not the inherent dysfunction of a toxic and irredeemable black culture.
Doesn't even matter if you can't find a country where those conditions are true eitehr. No evidence is necessary for the narrative of white oppression. As long as we're playing the collectivist racial game, you'd think people like Norman Borlaug would get factored in for saving and improving the quality of life of billions, but god forbid you factor in global black crime rates. I don't know how we can make the message more clear when all evidence points to it, but the globe needs to adopt western cultural values from the post-enlightenment, but apparently 14x the violent crime rate of any other demographic is totally acceptable and totally equal to all other cultures, and we should never examine why those outcomes are so dismal. The left is pathologically empathetic. They feel the addict's need for the drug so much they can't even fathom the idea of weaning them off of the substance for their betterment.
Years ago, I remember going to my doctor, telling her that I had issues with sleep. Over several sessions she kept trying to convince me to go to a psychiatrist. I refused. Years later I got to see my medical records and it had a note from her saying how she suggested therapy but "I was furious and refused to listen".
Do not worry. Our assistant health commissar will declare transphobia a mental health conditions.
Women really are mentally ill.
Edit : Downvoters are literally denying facts. Almost every category, regardless of age or political affiliation, has more women diagnosed as mentally ill.
I'm not going to defend women on this, but as someone who worked as a therapist for some time its not an accurate reflection of reality exactly.
Psychology was founded on and built for women. Nearly everything we understand and know about it is designed around helping women. To the point where its a huge controversy right now that a couple of researchers determined that using normal therapy techniques actually increases maladaptive behaviors and possible suicide when used on men, because its designed around how women act. That's why we have a surge of "man therapy" doctors cropping up (which is great, recommend them to anyone). If you aren't getting helped, and your doctor seems like a quack you won't take their labelling seriously.
Partly from this and partly out of good old male stubbornness when admitting problems they also just don't go. You can't get diagnosed with anything if you never go to a doctor at all.
Basically the lowness of men on this chart is just as big a problem as the highness of women.
As an addendum to an already long comment, women are disproportionately high because they are lazy and over emotional. They play up their negative symptoms considerably, which leads to easy diagnosis of anxiety/depression/BPD. And rather than sit there in therapy and just work through the issue like a muscle knot, they'd rather a lifelong commitment to a happy pill.
I would love some man therapy but 5.56 is too hard to find to have a range day.
Shit don't I know it.
Closest thing I ever get to man therapy is lifting heavy weights with my boys.
I can speak to your point about avoiding therapists. Doctor recommended one when I was younger, I refused to go. Never understood why telling someone I didn't know a ton of information would help anything.
Still don't, really. It doesn't help that they're nearly all women and therefore just looking for an excuse to dope you up.
Yeah I get that. I graduated one of 200 psychology majors in my undergrad. There were around 15 guys in that group. I wouldn't trust 90% of those girls with my car keys, let alone my feelings.
Its an industry churning out bitter, debt riddled women by the truckload and they only get the money to afford their bills by never fixing you and sending you to a psychiatrist for that heavy shit.
Can you give a source or something? It sounds like something that would never be allowed to receive media attention or publication, so it's hard to believe this kind of information is available.
Also, say more about "man therapy", it sounds interesting.
I wish I had one on me, but it was a topic of discussion in my undergrad around 5~ years ago. We had a lot of discussions on topics that wouldn't be allow attention outside the school itself because of how "problematic" it was. If I can track down my ancient notes I will update you though.
The gist being that men don't like to talk about our problems. Being forced to do so causes anxiety, and admission of weakness. Feelings of weakness are a cycle that don't go away easy and just spiral downward. 9/10 men in therapy are there by force, sometimes legal but often under threat/manipulation from a girlfriend/wife, which is a whole cavalcade of issues I could rant about forever. Just know there is a reason why Couple's Counseling is basically snake oil and everyone in the business knows it.
Man therapy is basically doing manly things in a healthy environment. Basically you are paying a therapist to take you to the gym, hiking, hunting, fishing, etc. (generally they choose, but you should find one in your interest range) and you basically bro it out. The feelings of accomplishment and returning to your simple roots helps remove the stress and anxieties of the over complex modern world and help you focus on what's bothering you.
A lot of times, the self-confidence boost from these activities alone is enough to swipe away the itching in your mind. Other times its the relaxation you feel, as well as the trust/rapport with your doc, allows you to better think and articulate the problems you are having and then a generic therapy session endures.
Regardless of the exact form taken, its doing what your grandad did almost. Dealing with his problems with whiskey, his bros, and a manly hobby. Shockingly he knew what he was doing because it works wonders.
It kinda blows my mind that it's become necessary to reinvent the wheel in such a way. I hope this 'new field' continues to grow.
For a while now, I've had the notion that a good friend can do the job of a good therapist. It's how I often try to describe the benefit of therapy to other people. I suppose I was a little naive - not everyone wants to have the type of friend you talk to about personal shit. But this reaffirms that having a good friend will likely prevent the need for a therapist, not that gaining such a friend doesn't have its own difficulties.
It's also a glimmer of hope, in a way. This could be the start of seriously re-evaluating how useful our discarded traditions were, followed by re-introducing them into public acceptance. (rabid smear campaigns aside)
It is and isn't. There is a lot of pushback from the political and ideologues in the field, because psychology is basically a propaganda arm for the Progressive Movement, but there are genuine altruistic people going into the field every day and plenty of older folks who do only care about helping at the top. So despite the attempts to keep it on the downlow (you'll rarely read about it, or have it offered to you) it still exists and gets its name out there.
I think the lack of closeness is necessary for therapy to do its job where a friend can't. Your buddy you can call a fag and ignore him, but a trained professional (who you are paying, sunken cost fallacy and all) holds different weight. He also knows when to pounce and when to let off on what you say, how to manipulate you into running face first into the truth and admitting it, and how to de-escalate if stuff spirals out of control. A good friend can prevent the need like you say, but once its too late they are likely not enough to undo the damage alone.
One part of the man therapy process though is helping you gain the confidence to go out and involve yourself in these hobbies once the therapy ceases, which is how you gain a squad of good bros for life.
I wouldn't rely on it to be your ray of hope though. This is a bandaid for fixing broken men, but broken people will never be right again just better. We need to actually stop the problem at its source to get anywhere.
Hysteria literally includes a word for woman in it.
The human species itself is just an autistic variety of chimp; the lack of selection over the past 5-10 generations is just exacerbating that aspect of human "intelligence", and in another generation or two might start overshadowing the technological aspect of it. If it hasn't already.
Who does the selecting in human relationships again?
I don't mean sexual selection. I mean the fact that, well, you can do stupid things and still live to breed. You can be half crippled and still pass on your disabilities to something even worse, who will also be assisted to live and allowed to try to pass on its genes.
Humans haven't even noticed that the invention of glasses 35 generations or so ago have turned their eyeballs to general shit.
There has been very little natural selection of Western populations of humans since the 1800s, except for, basically, the World Wars. And the tribalist, inbreeding societies are starting to see most of THEIR babies survive now ....
Bingo. Our medical advances are fantastic, but also allow the worst traits to be passed on since we are now able to "treat" those with severe genetic medical conditions. I knew a guy whose skin was constantly peeling off. He is now married and will most likely have children. He is passing on his genes to his children with a significant risk of his wife bearing children with these same medical conditions.
It's insensitive to say, but one has to wonder how "humane" it is for people with debilitating medical conditions to have children knowing full well that those children may very well be born with or develop those same genetic defects. Is it an act of selfishness for them to create a child that may not be able to experience life to the fullest because of those genetic defects and may require constant use of modern medicine to live a stable life?
This is just callous. The amount of people brought into the world with these conditions pales in comparison to the amount of career criminals that have children because women's selection process is as unhinged as their politics.
This is the original point, and there's no way there's so many people with heritable conditions reproducing that it's actually affecting the gene pool.
My point stands. If there's something gone wrong with humanity lately, the blame falls squarely on those who select who gets to reproduce.
It goes hand in hand with increasing dependence on increasingly intricate technology, and the removal of non-sexual selective pressures - such as predation and violent/physical competition with other humans.
Fat unhealthy blobs who absolutely depend on modern medical technology to keep them alive can breed with one another because the male doesn't need to "be a man" any more. Food security and protection aren't the same issues they were even 200 years ago. Both sexes are broken, and their own technology broke them. I'm not saying you're wrong, you're just too one-dimensional.
Hard to argue that. Impossible is hyper-fixating on one hole in the boat, when in truth there's 13 different leaks that have sprung up, and that's just the ones we can see.
White liberals wave 'mental health conditions' around as if they were medals. It goes in the Twitter bio right next to the pronouns. I would not be surprised if they were fishing for them.
It appears "Female" is a mental illness.
How can hating your whole race not be classified as a mental health problem? That's a special kind of a self-pathology that actively hurts other people in your community.
Wrong, Jackass! It's called White GUILT, the belief that because we are white we must bare the sins of our ancestors and atone for them. In case that doesn't ring anything in your hollow head, I will break it down.
Judeo-Christian belief is that we are all guilty of the original sin. We must all atone for this sin the first of our people created.
It's a product of our society switching from a religious one to a more secular one. We keep the principles, but change the names. SSDD, same sluts, different dresses.