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Mayor: No matter what the jury says, he's guilty ? (media.communities.win)
posted 5 years ago by monkebrau 5 years ago by monkebrau +96 / -0
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– Knife-TotingRat 46 points 5 years ago +46 / -0

Watch, it'd be the first cut for getting rid of jury trials, to be replaced with star chambers with "right-thinking" tribunals/judges. Because juries are made up of wrong-thinking rednecks and randos and such, how can you trust them to make proper decisions? :P This will be a push eventually, just watch. Even if they have to manufacture a dog and pony trial. "No pox found guilty, no white found innocent".

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– tgufjhykgjkf 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I predict a guilty verdict. The Jurors know it's their necks on the line, and when the choice comes between voting guilty and going home to your wife and kids, or voting innocent at great personal risk, few would be willing to follow the intent of a system that did not care enough to protect its guardians.

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– ArtemisFoul 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, especially now that someone left a pig's head and smeared pig blood at the (former, luckily) residence of one of the witnesses. The mob is out for blood.

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– deleted 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0
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– Johan_Liebert 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The moment it comes down to a non Asian brown person vs a white woman IX will be rewritten or thrown out. Can't have nogs going to prison for raping their colonizers.

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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– Johan_Liebert 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

They're already turning on WW.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/15/22231079/capitol-riot-women-qanon-white-supremacy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maiahoskin/2021/02/21/dear-white-women-are-you-abusing-your-racial-privilege/?sh=24cebbe83174

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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– Johan_Liebert 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Once they're no longer useful they'll be walled next.

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– ailurus 40 points 5 years ago +40 / -0

So, now we have a sitting US congressional rep saying that people need to get confrontational if he's not found "guilty, guilty, guilty!", and the mayor of Minneapolis saying that the jury's decision is essentially irrelevant. Waters on her own was - according to the judge - likely grounds for an easy appeal, and this just makes it more likely an appeal will succeed.

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– MargarineMongoose 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

They're out for blood. I have trouble understanding their groupthink mindset.

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– Lurker404 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

I have trouble understanding their groupthink mindset.

It's a mass hysteria.

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– MargarineMongoose 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

There seems to be quite a lot of that going around lately.

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– TerpenoidTester 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Mass Hysteria means they can pass draconic laws and ignore the constitution, so they want it to exist for as long as possible.

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– Gizortnik 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

Let Mark Twain explain it to you:

It is thought, as I have said, that a lynching crowd enjoys a lynching. It certainly is not true; it is impossible of belief. It is freely asserted--you have seen it in print many times of late--that the lynching impulse has been misinterpreted; that it is act the outcome of a spirit of revenge, but of a "mere atrocious hunger to look upon human suffering." If that were so, the crowds that saw the Windsor Hotel burn down would have enjoyed the horrors that fell under their eyes. Did they? No one will think that of them, no one will make that charge. Many risked their lives to save the men and women who were in peril. Why did they do that? Because none would disapprove. There was no restraint; they could follow their natural impulse. Why does a crowd of the same kind of people in Texas, Colorado, Indiana, stand by, smitten to the heart and miserable, and by ostentatious outward signs pretend to enjoy a lynching? Why does it lift no hand or voice in protest? Only because it would be unpopular to do it, I think; each man is afraid of his neighbor's disapproval--a thing which, to the general run of the race, is more dreaded than wounds and death. When there is to be a lynching the people hitch up and come miles to see it, bringing their wives and children. Really to see it? No--they come only because they are afraid to stay at home, lest it be noticed and offensively commented upon. We may believe this, for we all know how we feel about such spectacles--also, how we would act under the like pressure. We are not any better nor any braver than anybody else, and we must not try to creep out of it.

They're actually not out for blood, only a few people even want that.

Most are just cowards who are virtue signaling that they are good people to their social clique.

Lynchings are the final form of a virtue signal.

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– deleted 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0
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– KekistanPM 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Even the Romans could see through the scheme of the Sadducees and Pharisees both before the crucifixion, and after the crucifixion when they wanted guards posted to keep Jesus' followers from stealing the body.

I loved the part in the movie "Jesus of Nazareth" when the religious leaders asked for the tomb guard, and the solider looked right in their faces and said "What kind of people are you?"

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I'm not familiar with these characters, but I did find the scene:

"What kind of person are you?" is what he asked.

What's the story here with Sadducees and Pharisees? I'm not a Christian so this level of minutiae is well beyond me.

It seems logical to keep a religious cult from stealing a body and claiming that their leader had risen from the dead, at least from a tactical perspective of an establishment force fighting an anti-establishment group who just had a martyr created. It sounds like the individual in black is, frankly, using the pagan Romans as independent observers. The followers of Jesus could rationalize as the individual in black describes.

What was these individual's scheme?

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– kc446 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

Why do you even need a jury or a even trial if he's already guilty no matter what? Reads like third world mentality.

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– ThrowawyASAP 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

Import the third world Elect the third world Become the third world

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– Galean 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Witches had trials.

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– Galean 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

Do you guys think there is any chance in hell that he will be found not-guilty? If you were on that stand would you risk being killed by the mob on the likely chance that your identity will be made public?

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– something_stylish 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

The proper tin foil hat is: it was almost guaranteed so they're deliberately gunning for mistrial/appeal etc. to make faith in the system plummet. Not guilty would be a failure of the system despite the supporting evidence while mistrial etc. could be spun as the system being incapable of prosecuting because [insert racist reasoning] so burn loot murder until we reform that system.

That's too muh tinfoil for my blood but still not outside the realm of possibilities, shockingly. (They're too independantly retarded and ideologically driven for it, those above them though?)

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– onetruephilosoraptor 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

I don't think that is tinfoil at all.

I have heard a few progressives openly say they hope Chauvin is acquitted so they can say the system is broken and fully accelerate.

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– something_stylish 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

I just don't think the rank and file are doing it knowingly, only reacting to stimuli as trained.

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– ghostfox1_ 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Oh, it'll accelerate alright.

They'll find out just how fast people will wake up and start defending themselves.

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– MargarineMongoose 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Yes frankly. They aren't public yet and from what I understand the prosecution overcharged and is getting blown out in the proceedings despite how the media's been trying to spin it.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

It's entirely possible. I have no idea how this jury is going to rule. It's entirely possible that by becoming the target, they may resist and generate blowback. On the other hand, they may succumb to power.

A master and individualist mentality would be to respond with spite and anger to these threats.

A slave and collectivist mentality would be to respond with submission and prostration to these threats.

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– monkebrau [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

They way it's looking, he gets manslaughter then mistrial for sure, without even a shadow of a doubt.

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– Constipatriot 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0
  1. Prime the populace for the destruction of your city

  2. Apply for federal aid after city is destroyed, knowing current administration will give any anount you ask for

  3. Get paid and apologized to, attribute violence to the actions of any ethnic or political group of your choice

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– Intra 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

any ethnic or political group of your choice

I wonder which it could be...

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– cartoonericroberts 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

When they burn down his shit city he will have earned it.

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– Galean 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

I admit that the thing on the left is funny as hell.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

The Democrats have re-introduced

Lyncherdom

http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam482e/lyncherdom.html

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– CZcowboy 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

When you remove the jury box there’s only one box left....

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– M1919A2 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

And that shelf's been empty for a year now...

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– MetalGearMk4 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Is that a white gorilla beating it's chest?

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– deleted 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0
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– Frankly_George 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I am astounded by the sheer emotion in this picture....

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

How is this even legal?

How is this not interfering with a trial?

How are these people not hauled into a cell right now?

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– Johan_Liebert 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

What the fuck is that bald dyke retard doing? Speaking chimp out?

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– deleted 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0
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– Lurker404 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

That's just the usual understanding of justice of the left: anyone not on the left is always guilty no matter what they did, anyone on the left is always innocent no matter what they did.

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– Galean 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

The left is more on the person is guilty because they are not on the left so if it is not guilty it means that the laws are broken and we need to change them.

Good way of looking at it, they are never wrong and the laws are there to enforce their views. Not unlike religious fanatics.

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– Eltrion 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

That's not true. If they are accused of something by someone with more oppression points, then a left winger is always guilty as well. Though, they're then retroactively branded as "Far Right", so I guess you're sort of right.

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– deleted 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0
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– APDSmith 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Eh, it's more they need to evict somebody from the left before they can gulag them.

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– Streetshame 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

which is why I support doing the same wagon circling for our side since they keep picking us off

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– monkebrau [S] 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

"I had a dream he was guilty so he's guilty!"

(an ex literally said this to me once. She was serious.)

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– KekistanPM 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It's easy to say this from the comfort of anonymity; but I figure if I were on the jury then I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, so I'd vote based on the evidence.

Then I'd immediately follow newly made plans to stock up on ammo and move to another state where I have good job opportunities.

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– HighFrequency 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Hey now. My female brain is more capable of unbiased critical analysis than many males I see spewing ignorant assumptions and jumping to unwarranted conclusions on this board and elsewhere. Am I an exception? Perhaps. But you should not paint ANY demographic with a single brush. C’mon, man!

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Males have more variance. This is a known phenomenon.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

NOT ALL

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– Cyberguy64 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It is wrong to generalize all men as a monolith of abusers and monsters.

It is perfectly fine to generalize all women as a monolith of abusers and monsters.

Apparently.

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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– Cyberguy64 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Appeal to Minority Fallacy. You've become the very thing you set out to destroy.

I knew nuance was dead on the left. I hate to see it croak here too.

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– deleted 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0
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– HighFrequency 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Huh? That was no attack. Sheesh! Just a reminder not to make such sweeping generalizations.

But your defensive hostility has been noted.

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– monkebrau [S] 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I believe he was making a point

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– Intra 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I was on a jury last year, consisting of twelve white guys. Shit was cash. We had some twists and turns, but we pretty much arrived at a consensus that the accused was guilty of all charges. We only had two emotional holdouts, because the charges were pretty severe for the acts involved, even though they technically qualified.

One of the holdouts relented on the final charge, while the other admitted that while he believed the defendant did what he was accused of, he couldn't in good conscience say he was guilty, because he felt the court's charges were overzealous. It wasn't his place to do this, but thankfully, the judge told us that 11-1 would suffice in that scenario and finally let us go free.

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