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Abolish the senate is now trending (www.dailywire.com)
posted 5 years ago by Galean 5 years ago by Galean +46 / -0
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– Galean [S] 51 points 5 years ago +51 / -0

Basically leftists realized that if they do not have the senate they can not push their progressive garbage down everyone throats so now they want to remove the senate. Do they even realize how good the US system is? It has all this balances in order to protect against a tyranny of the majority and a tyranny of the government. Yet for leftists is just an obstacle to get in the way of their progressive utopia that most people do not want.

Progressive utopia = an utopia so good that the only way to obtain it is by forcing it against peoples will

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– yoisi 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

They are brainless and brainwashed. And they think and behave just like every other communist in history

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– deleted 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0
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– jvardrake 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

Do they even realize how good the US system is? It has all this balances in order to protect against a tyranny of the majority and a tyranny of the government.

What if... and I know this is just spitballing, but what if... the left doesn't want checks against tyranny of the majority, and tyranny of the government? You only need to look back as far as... now - and the whole COVID thing - to see what the left wants MOST is for some all powerful government/agency to tell everyone - especially those that don't agree with them politically - what to do.

The left absolutely wants an all powerful federal government. They have been so indoctrinated by the media, and by the leftist education they received, that they no longer have American values. They want a tyrannical government. They just want to be the ones in charge of it.

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– Far_Side_of_Forever 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Regressives want change for the sake of change; whether or not an improvement occurs isn't even item #1436 on the agenda

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– cccpneveragain 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

If there were a national election today to abolish the Constitution and name Joe Biden the dictator, but with a nice name like the Communists use...something like Leader, I'm pretty sure it gets tens of millions of yes votes. I mean actual real not-fraudulent votes, although they would be accompanied by a lot more fake votes too. I don't think it would win, but there's a shitton of people that want their policies no matter what it takes.

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– Galean [S] 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

They already have no problem with a one party state so why not a Glorious Leader.

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– Knife-TotingRat 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Biden? Nah, he's just the mask. No one would have voted Dem if the POX was up front and centre, they learned from Hilary. But! The Trump win kind of threw them off their stride - first a black man, then a woman, then who knows, well, now they can jump to the "who knows" right away (a female mutt, that's what was next, I guess.)

I don't give him very long to live after his corona ... inauguration.

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– cccpneveragain 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Yeah that's fair it wouldn't be Biden. I don't even get bothered by Biden. Harris? That bitch is evil incarnate.

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– octagonstone 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

When Erdogan says, "Democracy is like a train. You take it where you have to go, and then you get off," the progressives agree on the principle but disagree on the destination. They just want scientific government, as opposed to islamic. Everything they do is couched in the language of rationality, evidence and academia. They have papers and studies for everything.

The question then is why even have elections if the best policy can be determined in academies? Why not dissolve congress and just establish a technocratic state? The typical answer is that power wants to stay hidden. That's definitely a part of it. But I think the reason is rather that we have not yet arrived at the destination.

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– Lurker404 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Funny how the left wants to get rid of things that left-wing systems around the world have. They swoon how progressive Europe is, yet we have a similar system like the electoral college (to balance the popular vote) EU-wide and we have house+senate systems in various countries.

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– deleted 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0
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– Lurker404 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Oh yea, forgot about that. Around here EVERYONE has the legal right to watch the counting of ballots, too.

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– AntonioOfVenice 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

And voter ID laws.

Y'know those wacist voter ID laws?

They're universal in Europe, which these hard-leftists say they want to emulate.

Funny how that works, innit?

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– Galean [S] 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

I find Europe to be incredibly bad from a democracy point of view but I am no expert. From what I could read up on Europe election system is a chaotic mess that somehow produces the same people in power. Only one branch is democratic while the rest is negotiated inside by what I can just assume is an European version of a globalist swamp. For a leftist that is perfect, you can pass any progressive legislation like migrant quotas or hate speech laws without accountability or mass opposition from the population. How many in Europe even know of Europol or the recent raid on hate speech?

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– Lurker404 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Brussels isn't just the swamp. It's the concentrated swamp, especially the commission and other unelected organizations you rarely hear about. It's where swamp creatures that rose to the corrupt top in their respective countries end up to form the super swamp.

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– TentElephant 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I find democracy bad from a freedom perspective. Most people are single issue voters because they don't have either the time, intelligence, or will to research everything. These single issue voters form around special interest groups. Instead of trying appeal to 100% of voters, you promise 3% of the population that you will rob everyone else and give it to them for their issue, repeat 17 times until have 51% of the vote.

The special interest group doesn't even have to benefit its voters as long as the leaders tell them they got something. More is better, so ideally you want to steal from a few highly productive people to redistribute to an even larger base of parasite voters, which makes anarcho-tyranny an inevitability. Of course, the politicians and special interest leaders will take their cut of the theft along the way.

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– Knife-TotingRat 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

And/or you get Cults of Personality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0&list=RDGVK1g73cDqA&index=15

"I exploit you,

Yet you still love me

I tell you one and one makes three!

I'm the Cult of Personality .."

"You gave me fortune, you gave me fame

You gave me power in your God's name

I'm every person you need to be

I'm the Cult of Personality"

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– 666sadfrogs 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah I definitely agree with your point on Democracy being bad on a freedom perspective, but it’s probably the best that we’ve got.

The problem comes down to human nature.

We are a social animal that depends on a hierarchy, so we need some sort of binding agreement and structure to function, which ends up being the state. We have to have a state and we as a species like having someone else meeting needs for us, which leads to some form of government.

The ability of everyone to vote gives the illusion of freedom, but everyone also has different conflicting needs and wants. I would prefer people have a say, but the system is obviously easy to abuse. If someone promises to give something, the people who want that thing will vote for them because it is easier than obtaining that thing themselves.

Figuring out how to fix the flaws with Democracy is probably impossible, but I cannot think of a better system than a Democratic Republic

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– TentElephant 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Private Law Societies

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– Lurker404 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

So the senate is down to two runoffs? The Republicans better get their shit in order and stop being passive about all the fraud or they're going to lose those too.

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– Galean [S] 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

They better get a massive campaign going. It may not be much but we get 2 years of protection against progressives.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

No mere campaign will be enough to help them if Stacey Abram's Atlanta machine can rig it again like they did in the Georgia general election against POTUS.

They need to focus on revealing all of the fraud that transpired and making sure that the Democrats cannot do it again during the special runoff elections.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

If this fraud is allowed to stand it's the end of the Republic, because any "unapproved" candidate won't be allowed to win.

Trump won election in 2016 with the system on its second highest difficulty level. He won again in 2020 with the system on its highest difficulty level, and the system by cheating him shows future victory to be impossible.

Why should I even care if the Republicans win elections if it's a bunch of Nikki Haleys and Dan Crenshaws who will still be driving us off the same cliff but will be driving the speed limit while they do so?

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– M1919A2 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Get ready for Trucker strikes and more. It's interesting because the "turn the other cheek" evangelical conservatives aren't part of the Trump coalition. You've got men left who actually work for a living and willing start showing the world they exist and now are pissed. Many of them are Union members who are used to dealing with more...direct action shall we say.

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– Norenia 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

So... they’re against states’ rights?

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– DrBarkanine 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

They always have been. They want centrally-defined power and the idea of devolving power is anathema to the ideology.

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– YouAreAPirate 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It’s also why they only ever enter a hobby once a defined, or a handful of defined, market leaders have been established.

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– Soup_Navy_Admiral 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Last time it was the electoral college, they bitched about it until the minute they figured out how to rig it. Shows you what happens to something that gets in their way. They want it destroyed until and unless they subvert it.

I guess we know what their next target will be.

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– ionface 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Obligatory

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– Norenia 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Let me guess: "I AM the Senate!"

Yep.

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– APDSmith 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

They seek to dissolve the council permanently?

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

And if they were in the majority in the Senate, while lagging in the House, they'd call for the abolition of the House. They have no principles other than the will to power.

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– Serioush 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

"But only the part that fights us"

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– Skywise 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The electoral college is in our way - destroy it. The Supreme Court is in our way - destroy it. Now the senate is in our way - destroy it?

Who are these loons?

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

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