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Abolish the senate is now trending (www.dailywire.com)
posted 5 years ago by Galean 5 years ago by Galean +46 / -0
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– Lurker404 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Funny how the left wants to get rid of things that left-wing systems around the world have. They swoon how progressive Europe is, yet we have a similar system like the electoral college (to balance the popular vote) EU-wide and we have house+senate systems in various countries.

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– deleted 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0
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– Lurker404 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Oh yea, forgot about that. Around here EVERYONE has the legal right to watch the counting of ballots, too.

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– AntonioOfVenice 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

And voter ID laws.

Y'know those wacist voter ID laws?

They're universal in Europe, which these hard-leftists say they want to emulate.

Funny how that works, innit?

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– Galean [S] 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

I find Europe to be incredibly bad from a democracy point of view but I am no expert. From what I could read up on Europe election system is a chaotic mess that somehow produces the same people in power. Only one branch is democratic while the rest is negotiated inside by what I can just assume is an European version of a globalist swamp. For a leftist that is perfect, you can pass any progressive legislation like migrant quotas or hate speech laws without accountability or mass opposition from the population. How many in Europe even know of Europol or the recent raid on hate speech?

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– Lurker404 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Brussels isn't just the swamp. It's the concentrated swamp, especially the commission and other unelected organizations you rarely hear about. It's where swamp creatures that rose to the corrupt top in their respective countries end up to form the super swamp.

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– TentElephant 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I find democracy bad from a freedom perspective. Most people are single issue voters because they don't have either the time, intelligence, or will to research everything. These single issue voters form around special interest groups. Instead of trying appeal to 100% of voters, you promise 3% of the population that you will rob everyone else and give it to them for their issue, repeat 17 times until have 51% of the vote.

The special interest group doesn't even have to benefit its voters as long as the leaders tell them they got something. More is better, so ideally you want to steal from a few highly productive people to redistribute to an even larger base of parasite voters, which makes anarcho-tyranny an inevitability. Of course, the politicians and special interest leaders will take their cut of the theft along the way.

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– Knife-TotingRat 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

And/or you get Cults of Personality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0&list=RDGVK1g73cDqA&index=15

"I exploit you,

Yet you still love me

I tell you one and one makes three!

I'm the Cult of Personality .."

"You gave me fortune, you gave me fame

You gave me power in your God's name

I'm every person you need to be

I'm the Cult of Personality"

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– 666sadfrogs 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah I definitely agree with your point on Democracy being bad on a freedom perspective, but it’s probably the best that we’ve got.

The problem comes down to human nature.

We are a social animal that depends on a hierarchy, so we need some sort of binding agreement and structure to function, which ends up being the state. We have to have a state and we as a species like having someone else meeting needs for us, which leads to some form of government.

The ability of everyone to vote gives the illusion of freedom, but everyone also has different conflicting needs and wants. I would prefer people have a say, but the system is obviously easy to abuse. If someone promises to give something, the people who want that thing will vote for them because it is easier than obtaining that thing themselves.

Figuring out how to fix the flaws with Democracy is probably impossible, but I cannot think of a better system than a Democratic Republic

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– TentElephant 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

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