Also, you're moving away from the debate. You've brought the question of legality into it, making the depressingly common attempt to take "legal" and "good"/"moral" together, when the two have zero bearing on one another
Replace 'legal' with 'moral' then. Same principle applies. You're focusing on technicalities like a redditor.
And self-awareness is an intersting metric to consider, but even that paltry standard disqualifies huge swathes of people across the globe from personhood, let alone my preferred standard of self-actualization. Think about the average "doctor, lawyer, engineer" who dindu nuffin, or the average pajeet, or the average "refugees welcome" leftist. Many of them would, I think, at least be able to look in a mirror and identify the self and how the self differs from the not-self, but how many have a proper internal monologue, or the ability to imagine and rotate the apple, or even to comprehend the idea of second order effects, let alone predict them?
Again, this whole distinction of human vs. person exists entirely in your head based on what appears to be some arbitrary IQ threshold you've invented.
The offense you're taking to this is silly. I do like to get an idea of who I'm speaking to and the ideological position they're coming from, yes. I didn't bother reading any of your pseudo-intellectual redditor comments because there are enough of them in this thread to give me a good idea where you're coming from.
Though I will chastise you on trying to creep on my post history. I don't know how or when that behavior became normalized, but it's absurd that people do that. Our older conversations were between ourselves and whomever we were speaking with at the time, and not something for random lookie-loos to ogle at at arbitrary points in the future, devoid of context and ontological involvement in the discourse.
All I did was click on your name, bud. Not that invasive.
but the actual spark of personhood is maybe 1/5th of the way to being ignited at the time a baby is born.
Says who? By that logic it should be legal to kill a toddler up to the point they become self-aware (I'm guessing that's the arbitrary metric you're using to denote 'personhood').
You're making this distinction between a 'human' and a 'person' that is entirely in your own head.
I get that modern internet discourse makes strange bedfellows but you've commented a grand total of five times in the last three years, including the two comments in this thread. I suppose it makes us wonder why you chose this topic and this take specifically.
Five years ago I'd say that's retarded but these days who knows. Might be something to it.
What even are our strategic objectives in this war? Does anyone know?
I think that makes me more of a fascist.
It's pretty cool not having to randomly worry if I have some disease in my loins because I'm just a regular, monogamous dude.
I was referring to Webspawner but perhaps that was unclear.
Someone never played Mass Effect 2.
Ten years ago I wouldn't have batted an eye over something like this. Now, my brain would light up in the same areas that it would if I'd seen a bucket of maggots.
Article says the "victim" was 21 at the time of the first incident.
In our culture women are simultaneously girlbosses who only get slowed down by men and helpless girls who are incapable of making decisions. It all depends if they're facing accountability or not.
The first drunken encounter came on Sept. 19, the woman said, after Swalwell invited her out for drinks and she became so intoxicated that she didn’t remember the rest of the night but woke up naked in Swalwell’s hotel bed the next morning. Swalwell distanced himself from her afterward, she said, and the relationship “faded.”
Five years later, the woman was no longer working for the congressman when she attended an April 2024 charity gala honoring Swalwell. She said she went for drinks with Swalwell afterward and became so inebriated that she only remembers snippets of the night, though she says she does recall pushing him away and telling him, “No.”
Funny how everywhere she goes intoxication falls out of the sky and hits her and she ends up in these compromised situations. I can't stand Swalwell but I'm tired of the media treating women like helpless children.
She chose to go out with him. She chose to get blackout drunk with him. Take responsibility for your own actions, toots.
In my church women aren't even allowed to stand at the pulpit. I wonder how much longer that will last once the older generations are gone.
Maybe you should have a more complex than a five year old’s understanding of the conflict.
I was gonna say it sounds like he's developing dementia. He rambles like an old geezer on facebook.
tl;dr grandpa
It's right there at the top of the linked article.
I still don't understand why markets react at all to anything he says. Unless it's all just manipulation and insider dealing.
It is time to take away grandpa's keys.
This entire mess has to be the single biggest unforced error in American political history.
I had to look up if Scott Stapp died or something.
It certainly is in this thread, in which you've typed out various walls of text focusing on semantics and technicalities that serve no purpose other than to stroke your own ego and waste time.
Some people are dumb (you may include me in this category if you wish). That doesn't deprive them of personhood.