Recently, we have been targeted by SJW dimwits. [A further elaboration is on the Reddit, and I can send it to any trusted user who asks, but since this is publicly viewable, I'm not stating it here.] As a response, I have made KiA2 private for the time being. It's become a bit too dangerous to be up right now.
If you are a good user, or you can show me a comment prior to the privating that shows you being hostile to Social Justice, you will of course be granted access.
Now, I do consider it quite likely that this action will kill the sub, in that our traffic will decline to being a blip. But it's still less likely than our possibility of being banned, which should tell you everything about the current situation. Since I created this sub, I view it as my responsibility to do whatever it takes that the people who put their trust in me and others, to ensure the survival of the community.
I take full responsibility for this action, whether it results in good or bad. Indeed, if they are really out for blood, which is quite likely actually, this may hasten our demise. They may take the privat'ing as an excuse to ban us straight away, alleging (without us being able to disprove it) that we are now using it to violate the rules of Reddit. I think that is less likely, because we are probably too small to be on the rader of the big guns.
I hope this results in many more people moving over to this place, where we are free from the restraints that Reddit imposes on us.
And of course, if you are upset with what has happened, you have every right to be. Dissenters still are not banned.
Tl:Dr admins are massive faggots, reddit is going to die in a leftist circlejerk
Not die, just shamble on as a desiccated corpse. Which will be the closest to being associated with thin some of those aposematic weirdos will ever be.
I've talked to former liberals, a lot of those antifa types apparently come from the punk rock scene.
Most of them are on drugs, having gay sex and overall are degenerates.
I'm still sparring with commies on JordanPeterson but they spam so much I have most of them on ignore
and now that I'm re-learning russian r/pikabu is really funny and pretty based so I'll stay for that
That sub was so fucked a few months ago. Half of the user base was constantly pretending that all the thing JP talked about, had nothing to do with JP. They were honestly pretending that anti Marxism, and being pro western values had nothing do with him. It was possibly some of the most dishonest shit I'd seen in my life. They aren't even good at their deception, yet many still fall for it.
You're beautiful!
it's on its last legs. think digg 2.0
I hope so. After what they did to The_Donald, they deserve it.
That was clearly electioneering from their platform.
I'm starting to be glad about the choice to leave Reddit regardless of the reason. KIA2 was the only sub I looked at regularly, it was 90% of my Reddit use. Now when I look at my Reddit feed I wonder why I bother, most of the decent subs that are left are only mildly interesting to me. Also, the fact that the last few anti PC subs are in the process of being taken over, makes it all the more reason to leave for good.
Yup same here. There's a couple of subs I look at which are just personal interests like martialarts and ufo but other than that, they've blocked all the good ones. I miss brapbarn haha
Same. KIA2 has been one of the few places to get actual honest to goodness news.
It's been months since I last visited Reddit. I get my news from and participate in based groups and channels on Telegram now.
I have been a member of Reddit for a very long time, almost a decade. I had been trying to control my addiction to Reddit using browser addons like leech block. But what finally worked was their overt and shameless manipulation of The_Donald.
I cannot even participate in the US election, so you cannot say I left the site because of my feelings. Their blatant abuse made me feel disgusted.
Now I do not even visit subreddits that have nothing to do with politics like fitness. I see them only if I have to look for some information; otherwise, I do not give them the time of day.
You'll feel better being gone from that place. I checked out just a few links that went back to reddit and was instantly disgusted by the place all over again.
What else is new?
Guess it's finally time to move onto here instead.
In the long run it's probably better, it's hard to get away from ease and convinience like commie reddit offers.
My problem with leaving is that some people might come across our arguments on Reddit and at least give them some thought. It is great here but we all mostly agree.
The problem is the people coming across the arguments and NOT thinking, but rather pointing and screeching to Big Brother's heavies when they see nonconformist, non-politically-correct ideas, like Donald Sutherland at the end of the remake of the Body Snatchers movie.
There definitely are some people who can't be convinced, but it's not about them, it's about the normies who are normally only exposed to far left propaganda.
You can still take your arguments to them, and use this place to organize.
I agree completely, the wide range of people is a big part of how reddit maintains its hegemony. I'm hopeful that as it descends further into an open echo chamber, more people will drift away, and hopefully maybe some of those drift here.
I'd also like a pony, while I'm at it.....
Before KiA2 disappeared, I noticed a sudden appearance of an....overzealous... commenter calling everyone "cucks". I took a look at their account history and that was their inly activity for two months (to constantly hit up KiA2's sub and harass the users there).
I'm not fond of the idea of any group being forced off of COLLABORATIVE platforms and we end up creating our own bubbles (Gab, Bitchute, .win sites, etc.) but i also believe that a free market allows for a company to shoot itself in the head (Reddit, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)
I think if we create our own alternatives, they gotta be serious competitors that sincerely don't result in hyper-partisanship.
I've seen similar things happening to r/TheLastOfUs2 multiple times where recently made accounts would intentionally create homophobic or racist posts in order to bring it down. I think it's also in AHS's crosshairs.
I know the ones you mean, they got downvoted to hidden consistently and fairly politely.
Cheering on the worst aspects like end of the world cultists, not even the tribal "our team good, you bad"
What do they think they are going to get out of it? Is not like we were this huge influence and is not like we are going to change our minds or anything. Is it just an attempt to make us look bad and point fingers on how evil anyone right of Lenin is?
It was probably one of my alts. I deleted my reddit account in protest at the utter cowardice displayed by the KiA and KiA 2 moderators and have spent the last few months making an endless slew of alts that simply refuse to obey them and come back under new names as fast as they are banned. My goal is to bring people to .win, as remaining on reddit simply assures will never again mount effective operations.
This is the right move. TD handled it about as well possible. As one of the folks that regularly messaged and reported posts to the mods to move over here in the first place, I'd like to see others move away from that cesspool too and join us.
u/AntonioOfVenice you should really heed this advice before it costs members there and here. You keep that closeddown, people will just drop off and not come back. Keeping it open and locked down, you can at least redirect people here.
He's actually directing people here in the warning message.
That's not helpful in the slightest if you aren't approved as a commentor or submitter, because when it's private the masses can't even see the warning message.
That's not the case for my alt account.
I've tried it logged in and out, on multiple accounts, different browsers, and it's still giving:
Sorry, you don't have access to this. Go to the front page
That isn't going to drive anyone here
We're you originally subscribed to the sub?
No.
I use RES bookmarks. I don't like reddit having a list of my subs.
And that's kind of the point of this. They need to do it like T_d did, where it was viewable to all, but restricted, so everyone gets the message to move over here.
The Donald had months of memes about coming here before that so everyone knew where to go when we got banned.
What, really? It's thedonald.win, and it's the OG of the .win network.
Is there a list of .win sites somewhere?
https://communities.win
I was not aware of that list, thanks man.
the .win network was built by some old mods of T_D and thedonald.win is the original .win site.
These .win sites started out as a T_D alt site. https://thedonald.win/
Kinda disappointed, not gonna lie. It's definitely going to get twisted into a signal of surrender or admission of guilt.
Who am I going to 'That's nice, dear.' now?
Making fun of leftists trying to add their "wisdom" to the subredit was one of the most entertaining things.
I think that's a good point, but these are people who take mere denial of guilt as admission of guilt, so hopefully people don't put too much stock in that.
Yet here you are in a nazi echo chamber, complaining about how nobody wants you on their platform. Of course they don't want fucking alt-right losers. This place wouldn't even exist if anyone wanted you. Your presence here is surrender. The left won. Just face it.
You're on the wrong side of history.
There they are! And here I can call you a "retarded faggot," you absolutely retarded faggot.
That's nice, dear.
I would ask for evidence that we are alt-right but I know that you can’t provide any.You were probably just told that by the retarded tranny jannies over on retarddit
https://pics.me.me/you-do-not-fit-in-here-okay-we-will-make-60612543.png
Look at you. You believe everything they tell you. Your worldview is backed up by the majority of legacy media. Pedowood and most corporations are simping for your causes.
You're such a brave rebel, anonymously standing up to a handful of internet nobodies by spouting socially acceptable beliefs.
Imagine signing up here just to tell us how much you hate us. Pathetic. You people really need to get some non degenerate hobbies.
Burn it down like Portland. New home is here
Moderators can't - and shouldn't - make that decision for users, and it wouldn't work anyway. Cause people are just going to leave the community if they think this is a crap website that they do not want to visit.
You should and you must.
KiA should have been abandoned in 2014 when we were banned from targetting advertisers for email campaigns. That knocked the wind out of our sales and we have never, ever recovered.
Over the last 6 years we have gotten weaker and weaker, slowly withering as we are prohibited from saying anything of substance. The continued cowardice of KiA and KiA2 moderators keeps thousands of ready and willing anti-Marxists wasting their time shitposting and taking no group action - just as reddit's leftist admins want it.
We MUST move people off these leftist-controlled spaces and in doing so regain the power to motivate them to action. We have been acquiescing to ever-more humiliating demands for 6 years. It is time to relocate, regroup, and attack, attack, attack. I want to be generating global headlines, not seeing yet another of my alts get banned by some cucked moderator for offending some leftist reddit admin.
I. Want. To. Attack.
This is why they do so much to keep us running around in pens of controlled opposition. Why do you think kia2 mods kept stifling discussion?
The mods aren't controlled opposition. They just aren't right wing. If you frame an argument within the confines they require by higher ups, you can say a great deal on plebbit kia2. You just have to be precise with your language. They care about the sub, maybe to a fault, but they built a community that has some diversity of opinion, which I enjoy greatly. For a bunch of faggots that I have vehement ideological disagreements with, they're the fairest jannies I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with.
Because it was either do that or have the sub get banned when there wasn't a good alternative (poal and saidit kinda suck imo and there was little enthusiasm for them). And it wasn't "stifling discussion", the limitations were clear. Don't say x words, don't say anything that could be interpreted as inciting violence or other illegal activity and a few other things that were reddit-wide.
Come back to me if they start banning people for wrong think here. Same people, so.
I sincerely doubt it's going to happen.
To be fair I don't think it would have been possible to leave very far back on to another platform. The .win platform has the appeal of being one of the few communities to successfully do that while retaining most of people in it. I'm not even aware of another one that wasn't just a husk of its former self that subsequently withers away. There's also the rallying factor that they were one of the most famously subjugated communities on reddit and did this. They also have unnamed benefactors funding the website construction and maintenance.
They're the perfect facilitator of this kind of thing.
By setting it to private you have essentially already done this. You might as well go the entire distance.
You could always take the path to it like MetaCanada did. Of course that's leading the OGFT retards to already try and claim the sub.
What did they do?
All submissions are locked, but the sub remains opens with a redirect to omegacanada.win you can check /r/metacanada if you want to check it out.
they closed up shop on reddit and told everyone to go to omegacanada.win
This is bullshit and you know it. Follow the model of metacanada.
I'm alright with you closing the kia2 reddit sub. I'm not alright with you incentivizing getting back in just to learn more about why it happened. I think it's a conflict of interest.
I'm especially frustrated because I don't think my comment history will suffice to get me access (I don't bother saying something in a thread if I see 10+ other people saying it), and I am a very curious person that feels miffed when information is held just out reach.
I'm not incentivizing anything, I'm just giving people the choice. Remember that we're here because we didn't want jackass moderators making decisions for us.
Even a single comment making it clear what you are will suffice. And I think there is plenty in your history, as I even remember your history.
Could you clear me for access to the subreddit, then? All my kia2 comments are scrubbed (a result of the sub going private, I assume), so I'm at a loss for how to link one of them to you.
Would a sarcastic comment mocking an sjw viewpoint suffice, or would some context be needed to explain it?
Sounds like they finally took notice of us.
They were intentionally ignoring us.
If this site grows enough to get attention they are going to come for it. The left nutjobs of reddit are just to many compared to us.
This was the kick I honestly needed to make an account here. The only reason I still go to KiA2 on reddit was there was more traffic on that platform.
I hope you post the full story here eventually.
Same. I've been lurking here since it was set up. I should've stopped using the retard infested shithole that is reddit weeks ago, but I'm a lazy idiot.
You're not alone lol
"If you are a good user, or you can show me a comment prior to the privating that shows you being hostile to Social Justice, you will of course be granted access."
I'm not sure how to do that. All my posts to the KiA2 sub no longer appear in my post history.
Then just send me a comment on another sub, or just your username.
What’s up. I’ve got the same user name and have been members of both subreddits for awhile
I've got the same username at reddit.
Hi, just sent a message from my reddit account with some comments. Most of them were on KIA2 though. Old user and long time lurker
BETTER DEAD THAN RED
Yeah, that's a bit of an odd design choice on Reddit's part. Once the sub goes private you can't access your own comments on there?
F5ed to see KiA2 privated. As I'm a lurker there, I probably won't have much posts around. Guess I'll just stick around here.
Ditto. It's only a shame due to the odd decision to hide the motivations behind the decision. My curiosity will eat at me for hours.
Same, I mostly lurked there. It was a pretty good aggregate for whatever gaming or soc-jus news Half-KiA wouldn't post.
Interesting that this happens as soon as Trump begins to make serious moves on China.
Wonder if there's any coincidence there...
Come on over here everyone! It's been boring as hell.
Reddit is such cancer, those fucking retards are an absolute cluster fuck of SJW fuckwits.
I hope this sub comes to life and we can be free folk without those cancerous fuckwits
Probably things related to it, or trolls
Just tried posting about the situation on r/kotakuinaction. They took the post down almost right away. I fucking hate those guys
I saw that post I can't believe how fast they took it down bunch of fucking losers
Fuck no.
Don't reopen it.
It was nothing more than the same useless controlled opposition, neutered and declawed by reddit's admins. Do the right thing and actively encourage people to leave reddit. Staying there is suicide.
A damn shame, but I think most of us lurkers from reddit understand. Hopefully we can reorganize the community here. Love you bros.
There are fewer and fewer reasons to stay on reddit each day. It's saddening to see KiA2 having to go private, but it was only a matter of time I guess
Well this is an interesting development. Still, I'd like to see the full breakdown if you could let me in. You know what I'm about Antonio.
I'll just make you approved submitter so you can read it for yourself.
Complete topic change, but can we get some color around here if its gonna be the new default?
I know you guys are busy, but the hard all white basic bitch setup really makes the place look cheap and flimsy.
I am not sure it can be changed at all. It IS very basic.
T_D.win has almost all the same theme as their original reddit did. Clearly its possible somehow, though I have no tech brains whatsoever.
I won't get pushy because its such a minor thing but it might help get people more involved here if it looks like a real place.
The win admins have full source access, so they may have a few more knobs to turn.
There has been at least one thread where people volunteered to write it, but needed a designer to give them color codes.
I burned all my logins. Can you PM me the pasta here?
Are you still sorting this? There are some posts and threads I'd like to get data from but can't atm with the sub being private.
It's a shame it had to happen like this, but we all knew it would. I always viewed Reddit as occupying hostile territory, with all the benefits and drawbacks that brings. I have no doubt there were some folks that found KiA2 and learned things they wouldn't have otherwise, and it was good discourse usually.
Considering I expected this to happen during the last, what, 3 banwaves? It's no surprise shit's going down now.
A friend (who himself got banned from the only sub he frequented because he cited the "alt-right think tank" Mises Institute) reminded me of KiA2 going private, so now I'm here. I haven't commented there for over a month, but I lurked the sub almost every day.
I'll request for access to the sub though I am not sure what the consequences of that would be in the long run.
The Mises Institute is named after Ludwig von Mises, who was a Jeeeeeeew.
The alt-right doesn't like Jews.
Galaxy brained take here.
Now that you pointed out, yeah, the inconsistency going on with the term alt-right is beginning to show if it hasn't already shown for a long time.
Though, if I may, what are the consequences and perks, if any, of being in a private sub?
Fair enough. Let's see if this place will thrive!
I am a refugee now, when do I get free stuff?
Still waiting to get access to the reddit sub again.
It's important to keep it up as a resource for old users as there's a wealth of valuable links to articles on different aspects of SJW cancer. I regularly search through the sub for specific topics whenever i know I'll need to discuss one of them. Great way of finding examples highlighting the extreme nature of the problem.
Waiting as well, messaged antonio on Reddit as well. If they're not going to open the Reddit again they should close it. This exclusive access but you gotta prove you think like us is SJW behavior.
I'm hoping he just has a lot of people to verify and that is slowing it down.
edit
Been over a damn week. Is anyone getting let back in?
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To anyone who just posted here: Message the mods over there. I got back in the next day.
I'd like to know what's going on. You and I were arguing in the same kia2 thread a couple days back.
edit: sorry, I'm auroch27 on Reddit.
Well, I needed a .win account anyway so here I am. Just upset that I don't have my fancy "Gamergate old guard" tag here. SOBS
Well, there are no flairs here, so no one has a flair.
Fuck it, guess I'm making an account over here then. My account with this username got permabanned on reddit a while ago so it's time.
I still don't understand why you privated the sub. Personally I think you should have left it open and let the mods make the first move if you feel it was actually targeted. I don't think they are bold enough to kill woke criticism off of reddit, and I would rather see them betray their stated principles with a concrete action than this, which seems like a preemptive retreat.
I vote for an unprivating and wait-and-see approach.
Fuck Reddit, never going back to that shithole. 8 years I was a member of that site and I've had to watch every single sub of interest go down the toilet and for what? To increase the odds of befuddled kiddie sniffer Biden's chances of election? What a fucking joke.
Antonio wants to feed his ego by people begging to be allowed back in while he sits on his little throne deciding whether to grace people by allowing them into his kingdom.
i showed you comments where i am hostile to social justice and you called me a SJW so fuck the fuck off you powertripping shitbird how are you better than any other reddit mods
Does this still need to be stickied?
I don't like being openly hostile, but being a bit of a dick is fine to them. Unless they do something absolutely stupid, then I'm just gonna call them all kind of name. Which seem to be a lot lately.