I love how they, supposedly, worship Soyence but they're the first to throw out everything we've demonstrated experimentally if it conflicts with what they want to believe ("faster than light travel is possible, we just need more Soyence").
Checks out. You might have a million monkeys and a million typewriters, but you lack the infinite amount of time for random chance to produce anything legible.
(Also, don't think about who's proofreading the monkeys' results to collect and organize whatever is legible. Shhh! They'll just luck into typing in perfect grammar and a legible story with no typos. Don't think about it!)
I currently reading the Bible, so it's funny you mention that as that's also what Jesus specifically warned about; there would be lots of shitty times that look like the end times (and plenty of false Messiahs) but when it actually happens, you'll know.
People have evangelized it for centuries, but there are signs following the ministry of Jesus that never happened until recent history: Israel becoming a nation in 1948, the rapid increase in knowledge through modern science, and "many shall run to and fro" with cars and airplanes.
But playing devil's advocate: The valley of dry bones could mean anything, pyramid architects and monks of old had extensive knowledge, and people moved fast with horse drawn carriage.
What matters to me is that my personal "end of the world" will definitely be within a century, and the Bible states that only God the father knows the time" so be prepared but don't try to guess it.
Yeah they been worshiping these fallen inter-dimensional entities for decades and they are telling these human apprentices inhabiting the 3d plane to “make this, build that, create, we’re coming and are almost ready, just a few more tweaks, so get them all ready”
Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok
Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok is the rabbi/director of the Kosher Torah School, found online at http://www.koshertorah.com/. The rabbi is the author of Aliens, Angels and Demons, and other works. He is a regular guest of the hit TV series ANCIENT ALIENS
I saw the trailer for this shit. The phrase, "it's not them we should be worried about, it's us" came up and I immediately discounted it as more zioslop
Remember that they relish in telling you who they are and what they're doing and then smearing anyone who points it out as a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Every serious examination I have seen on interstellar travel has revealed that it is not possible without great amounts of time involved. If we can't travel at speeds much faster than the speed of light then we aren't going anywhere which is pretty depressing to think about. Even getting humans to Mars and back is calculated to be impossible.
That’s based on our current understanding of science and technology. Imo it’s silly to think we’ve hit the apex of possible technology that one could use to travel the universe.
Say we’re still here one million years from now, we’ll still be limited by the speed of light? I don’t think so.
I agree that the opinion is based on current understandings but as for now it isn't looking good for us. You need fundamental rewrites of what we supposedly know to get past the problems.
At bare minimum we likely need to be able to advance to the point where we can resource harvest space borne objects besides just Earth. I don't think that is going to be feasible without figuring out how to manipulate gravity on whim. The means that we have now in regards to that are very crude in comparison to what is needed.
Yeah, maybe we will eventually figure out how to make that a reality. I hope we do, it would be incredibly frustrating if we can't get ourselves to other inhabitable planets after fantasizing about the prospect for so long.
We've only had "high technology" for what? 5000 years? 7K? Even in 5000 years our societies, technology & even human beings will be radically different.
IF we survive as a species for that long. The "Dark Ages" were just a blip, a global collapse could set us back centuries, millennia even.
I personally doubt it, AI machines require a high functioning society to create and support which is by my estimation only going to make such things even more rare. I think it more likely to find organic compounds like what has been claimed about findings on Mars and even there I am not so sure that I trust the report.
Not because I think that Mars never produced rudimentary life or better but because I am a bit skeptical about NASA's claims at times. It would make sense to me that if Mars ever held a viable atmosphere for a long enough time that life would develop on it.
The scouts would be machines, for sure. If it takes like 1+ years to travel a light year? Scouting potential planets would be essential before sending life-forms for further study of them.
There could be "potentially viable planets" in a lot of systems, eh? Telescopes can only tell us so much, getting probes into orbit is required. Then getting the data back! That's also needed.
Mars isn't "impossible" it's entirely possible! Just really really expensive. It needs some things in place before it's remotely practical. Space elevator? Legrange spaceports? Moon bases for sure.
Meanwhile the time it takes to travel 1 light-year is critically important to whether aliens will visit us or not.
1 per hour? We'd be crawling with aliens long ago.
1 per day? They'd be here by the ton.
1 per week? Still tons of them.
1 per month? Getting serious. They for sure would be here already, just not a lot of them.
1 per year? Yeah, some would be here but not many. This could be our current situation. The few that arrive have spent a PILE of money & time on it. Whatever they're after must be really valuable to them.
Over 1 per 2 years means they would likely be few & far between.
👍🏼 Based on 30 to 60 light years distance.
Yeah, are sentient beings made of light? They're probably made of, you know, matter! And how long it takes a spaceship of any sort to travel 1 light-year is a critical element here.
Star Trek speeds? (I think they go like 8 light-years an hour?) We'd be crawling with aliens. 10 years to go 1 light year? Not so much.
Well there's Sci-Fi ideas about FTL travel. Wormholes (natural or otherwise) to teleportation links (not natural!) to bending or warping space itself.
Those aren't estimates, they're "if this? then that" eh? The focus is on how many alien contacts we'd have by now.
If you wanted to travel 200 miles on Earth? How often would you go if you traveled 1 mile a second, a minute, an hour or a day? 1 mile a month = that's a once in a lifetime journey, round trip.
There's enough loose theory that we can send "simple" data back in time. Simple in this case being "existing, or not existing". Or in other words, 0, or 1. Binary code. An AI needs not travel linearly, in example, it could travel along a time axis as well as a space axis, in order to expedite getting where it needs to be... If there's something on the other side to recompile it. Which there isn't yet. But the moment that there IS, infinite visitor reality collapse is a worst-case-scenario, but more likely is faster-than-time travel of information only (so, an AI's programming/a mind-file-scanned "self"), but only for a singular binary code flow at a time per black hole.
Time isn't even the biggest problem. It's the radiation. In order to survive beyond the magnetosphere, the walls of the craft need to be thicker than the walls of a nuclear submarine. And then the faster you speed that craft up, they need to become even thicker to protect against higher and higher energy collisions from particle impacts as the velocity increases.
So the larger 'm' gets in F=ma, the larger F needs to be to compensate. To increase the force means increasing the mass by adding fuel, which requires more force to accelerate the added weight of the fuel, which needs more fuel...
With the shielding mass requirements and fuel mass requirements both scaling with velocity, interstellar travel is and always will be impossible. Anyone telling you otherwise is trying to scam you.
Schpiel-berg is convinced he didn't rape Heather O'Rourke to death, aliens did. hence why you need to watch Shitlers List for the 100-th time to reinforce how much of a nazi white people are.
It sounds like what I've theorized for decades now:
We "made contact" a long time ago, maybe the 50's or the 20's? Advance scouts made secret deals with various governments & corporations.
The "Mother Fleet" is on the way. When they arrive the whole world will be sent into chaos for one reason or another.
It's the only logical reason why every government on Earth is deficit spending their nations into extinction. They know the end of days is coming, soon!
Either life is unique in the universe, in which case no, or it occurs spontaneously, which means it would be everywhere and there's little reason for it to mess around with any other life.
If they're smart enough to build Motherships, they've realised that multiple cultures in close proximity is a universally bad thing.
I think "life" is all over the galaxy, but intelligent life could be exceedingly rare in comparison.
If they could build inter-stellar ships they likely would. I think curiosity is universal too.
The chance they'd explore the galaxy to find & exterminate any signs of intelligent life is a possibility too :x
Any species that gets intelligent enough and cooperative enough to make space-faring feasible, gets too empathetic, and gives too many entities ruling rights ("voting") out of feelings or virtue instead of merit or rationality, which cascades into corruption, and inevitable societal collapse. It happens without fail.
Watching lifelong self proclaimed atheists all simultaneously pivot towards alien worship is getting funnier by the day.
I love how they, supposedly, worship Soyence but they're the first to throw out everything we've demonstrated experimentally if it conflicts with what they want to believe ("faster than light travel is possible, we just need more Soyence").
And alternating between incoherent screaming and damning silence now that evolution was conclusively disproven.
Context? How did Macroevolution get conclusively disproved?
Turns out they'd been hand waving the math the whole time.
Ten times the observed rate of mutation is still orders of magnitude more than the age of the planet.
Checks out. You might have a million monkeys and a million typewriters, but you lack the infinite amount of time for random chance to produce anything legible.
(Also, don't think about who's proofreading the monkeys' results to collect and organize whatever is legible. Shhh! They'll just luck into typing in perfect grammar and a legible story with no typos. Don't think about it!)
The published work for it is called Probability Zero, and bizarrely is available on Amazon.
Faster than light travel IS possible. Just not for humans.
God can do it.
God made us in His image, but not in His ability, alas.
Not being able to travel faster than light speed really throws a wrench in a lot of people's fantasy of caring about space more than Earth.
I honestly think it is a sign of the end times.
Eh... It's pretty evident that we're in A end times, but I'm not convinced on this being THE end times.
I currently reading the Bible, so it's funny you mention that as that's also what Jesus specifically warned about; there would be lots of shitty times that look like the end times (and plenty of false Messiahs) but when it actually happens, you'll know.
People have evangelized it for centuries, but there are signs following the ministry of Jesus that never happened until recent history: Israel becoming a nation in 1948, the rapid increase in knowledge through modern science, and "many shall run to and fro" with cars and airplanes.
But playing devil's advocate: The valley of dry bones could mean anything, pyramid architects and monks of old had extensive knowledge, and people moved fast with horse drawn carriage.
What matters to me is that my personal "end of the world" will definitely be within a century, and the Bible states that only God the father knows the time" so be prepared but don't try to guess it.
Yeah. This isn't Armageddon. It's just the second falling of Rome.
That's because there's a 95% chance that aliens are actually demons and they need to normalize it for the public
Yeah they been worshiping these fallen inter-dimensional entities for decades and they are telling these human apprentices inhabiting the 3d plane to “make this, build that, create, we’re coming and are almost ready, just a few more tweaks, so get them all ready”
Jews prepping for their big reveal when they tell us they're actually aliens that came to earth to help us improve as a species or something.
And they were just "gathering data" on our children in those pizza parties?
I bet that's why they're fine with anti-jew shit recently. They're gonna use it in some gay psyop "ooh the aliens told you jews are bad" or some shit.
I like your mod camo!
Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok is the rabbi/director of the Kosher Torah School, found online at http://www.koshertorah.com/. The rabbi is the author of Aliens, Angels and Demons, and other works. He is a regular guest of the hit TV series ANCIENT ALIENS
And niggers are their bio weapons.
Makes sense.
I saw the trailer for this shit. The phrase, "it's not them we should be worried about, it's us" came up and I immediately discounted it as more zioslop
Depends on who "it's us" is referring to.
Remember that they relish in telling you who they are and what they're doing and then smearing anyone who points it out as a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Unless the next 5 seconds is an Alien tail puncturing through his chest and him uselessly flailing at it while dangling above the ground.
Every serious examination I have seen on interstellar travel has revealed that it is not possible without great amounts of time involved. If we can't travel at speeds much faster than the speed of light then we aren't going anywhere which is pretty depressing to think about. Even getting humans to Mars and back is calculated to be impossible.
That’s based on our current understanding of science and technology. Imo it’s silly to think we’ve hit the apex of possible technology that one could use to travel the universe.
Say we’re still here one million years from now, we’ll still be limited by the speed of light? I don’t think so.
I agree that the opinion is based on current understandings but as for now it isn't looking good for us. You need fundamental rewrites of what we supposedly know to get past the problems.
At bare minimum we likely need to be able to advance to the point where we can resource harvest space borne objects besides just Earth. I don't think that is going to be feasible without figuring out how to manipulate gravity on whim. The means that we have now in regards to that are very crude in comparison to what is needed.
But like if you fold a piece of paper and poke a hole into it with a pencil and stuff
Yeah, maybe we will eventually figure out how to make that a reality. I hope we do, it would be incredibly frustrating if we can't get ourselves to other inhabitable planets after fantasizing about the prospect for so long.
Actually it's only based on the rocket equation.
If we find any way to push against the 'aether' instead of carrying fuel then we can get to other stars in years instead of millennia.
We've only had "high technology" for what? 5000 years? 7K? Even in 5000 years our societies, technology & even human beings will be radically different.
IF we survive as a species for that long. The "Dark Ages" were just a blip, a global collapse could set us back centuries, millennia even.
Sure, as soon as we find out how to harness more energy than exists in the universe to move infinite mass, we're laughing...
Wouldn't we be much more likely to encounter AI machines than anything else?
I personally doubt it, AI machines require a high functioning society to create and support which is by my estimation only going to make such things even more rare. I think it more likely to find organic compounds like what has been claimed about findings on Mars and even there I am not so sure that I trust the report.
Not because I think that Mars never produced rudimentary life or better but because I am a bit skeptical about NASA's claims at times. It would make sense to me that if Mars ever held a viable atmosphere for a long enough time that life would develop on it.
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/mars-science-laboratory/curiosity-rover/nasas-curiosity-finds-organic-molecules-never-seen-before-on-mars/
Just so everyone is clear "organic" molecules and compounds aren't even close to "life".
They're hydrocarbons; at least, everything but the most basic of basic hydrocarbons.
Methane, for example, which occurs all over the place without anything resembling life, is an organic molecule.
The scouts would be machines, for sure. If it takes like 1+ years to travel a light year? Scouting potential planets would be essential before sending life-forms for further study of them.
There could be "potentially viable planets" in a lot of systems, eh? Telescopes can only tell us so much, getting probes into orbit is required. Then getting the data back! That's also needed.
Mars isn't "impossible" it's entirely possible! Just really really expensive. It needs some things in place before it's remotely practical. Space elevator? Legrange spaceports? Moon bases for sure.
Meanwhile the time it takes to travel 1 light-year is critically important to whether aliens will visit us or not.
1 per hour? We'd be crawling with aliens long ago.
1 per day? They'd be here by the ton.
1 per week? Still tons of them.
1 per month? Getting serious. They for sure would be here already, just not a lot of them.
1 per year? Yeah, some would be here but not many. This could be our current situation. The few that arrive have spent a PILE of money & time on it. Whatever they're after must be really valuable to them.
Over 1 per 2 years means they would likely be few & far between.
👍🏼 Based on 30 to 60 light years distance.
Wut?
It takes light one year to travel one light-year, this is by definition what a light-year is.
Yeah, are sentient beings made of light? They're probably made of, you know, matter! And how long it takes a spaceship of any sort to travel 1 light-year is a critical element here.
Star Trek speeds? (I think they go like 8 light-years an hour?) We'd be crawling with aliens. 10 years to go 1 light year? Not so much.
The speed of light is the hard cap; we will never go faster.
All your estimates are way optimistic. It's more like 3-5 years for every lightyear, once everything is "perfected".
Well there's Sci-Fi ideas about FTL travel. Wormholes (natural or otherwise) to teleportation links (not natural!) to bending or warping space itself.
Those aren't estimates, they're "if this? then that" eh? The focus is on how many alien contacts we'd have by now.
If you wanted to travel 200 miles on Earth? How often would you go if you traveled 1 mile a second, a minute, an hour or a day? 1 mile a month = that's a once in a lifetime journey, round trip.
And your thinking is very linear, too.
There's enough loose theory that we can send "simple" data back in time. Simple in this case being "existing, or not existing". Or in other words, 0, or 1. Binary code. An AI needs not travel linearly, in example, it could travel along a time axis as well as a space axis, in order to expedite getting where it needs to be... If there's something on the other side to recompile it. Which there isn't yet. But the moment that there IS, infinite visitor reality collapse is a worst-case-scenario, but more likely is faster-than-time travel of information only (so, an AI's programming/a mind-file-scanned "self"), but only for a singular binary code flow at a time per black hole.
Then will simply increase the speed of light
Time isn't even the biggest problem. It's the radiation. In order to survive beyond the magnetosphere, the walls of the craft need to be thicker than the walls of a nuclear submarine. And then the faster you speed that craft up, they need to become even thicker to protect against higher and higher energy collisions from particle impacts as the velocity increases.
So the larger 'm' gets in F=ma, the larger F needs to be to compensate. To increase the force means increasing the mass by adding fuel, which requires more force to accelerate the added weight of the fuel, which needs more fuel...
With the shielding mass requirements and fuel mass requirements both scaling with velocity, interstellar travel is and always will be impossible. Anyone telling you otherwise is trying to scam you.
Schpiel-berg is convinced he didn't rape Heather O'Rourke to death, aliens did. hence why you need to watch Shitlers List for the 100-th time to reinforce how much of a nazi white people are.
Fuck this ass clown.
I wonder how much money the alphabet agencies provided for this.
I watched Mirage Men recently and it's just another example of how there is no limit to the depth of dishonesty from "our" government.
Woke Encounters
It sounds like what I've theorized for decades now:
We "made contact" a long time ago, maybe the 50's or the 20's? Advance scouts made secret deals with various governments & corporations.
The "Mother Fleet" is on the way. When they arrive the whole world will be sent into chaos for one reason or another.
It's the only logical reason why every government on Earth is deficit spending their nations into extinction. They know the end of days is coming, soon!
Either life is unique in the universe, in which case no, or it occurs spontaneously, which means it would be everywhere and there's little reason for it to mess around with any other life.
If they're smart enough to build Motherships, they've realised that multiple cultures in close proximity is a universally bad thing.
I think "life" is all over the galaxy, but intelligent life could be exceedingly rare in comparison.
If they could build inter-stellar ships they likely would. I think curiosity is universal too.
The chance they'd explore the galaxy to find & exterminate any signs of intelligent life is a possibility too :x
Great Filter theory:
Any species that gets intelligent enough and cooperative enough to make space-faring feasible, gets too empathetic, and gives too many entities ruling rights ("voting") out of feelings or virtue instead of merit or rationality, which cascades into corruption, and inevitable societal collapse. It happens without fail.
You’re just talking about white people
Moishe unleash the alien conspiracies
"I have something to sell. Here's why you should buy it." This is actually honesty I would respect.
From what we currently understand about the universe and physics, my money's on the whole thing being empty except for us.
That article had a link to a He-Man review worth reading - https://thatparkplace.com/review-masters-of-the-universe-is-man-hating-fanfiction-that-thinks-its-clever/
They are, but why should I expect this movie to not be woke propaganda, too?
[Mark Zuckerberg materializes into the chat]