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Valve Responds to the NYAG, Letitia James. The NYAG is demanding mass surveillance of EVERYONE under the guise of stopping gambling. (help.steampowered.com)
posted 104 days ago by CatoTheElder 104 days ago by CatoTheElder +76 / -0
Steam Support :: About the New York Attorney General lawsuit against Valve
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– CatoTheElder [S] 55 points 104 days ago +55 / -0

It was never about the gambling.

Also some Limey dumbfucks are also suing Valve for royalties, because some games sold on Steam have licensed music. The developers of those games have already paid the license fee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8da5yCAOaIw

It was never about the gambling.

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– brimshae 33 points 104 days ago +33 / -0

Also some Limey dumbfucks are also suing Valve for royalties, because some games sold on Steam have licensed music. The developers of those games have already paid the license fee

Trying to double dip licensing fees is how that Rothschild scumbag eventually ended up losing in court against Valve.

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– freedomlogic 3 points 104 days ago +3 / -0

Lmao, you serious.

Did you see the counter strike 2 update tonight? Retired another lootcrate and replaced it with a new genesis terminal, lmao, this is how they are getting around the gambling component of it.

Instead of seeing the skin after you pay the money, youll see the skin before and then pay the price that valve sets for you. Lmao, i dont know how you guys think spending 500+$ for 0's and 1's is a good idea, but by all means, daddy gabe needs another superyacht.

Im enjoying reading the comments on reddit and steam threads, its 50/50 but im glad to see others are happy to see something being done about the gambling aspect of it even though its just going to turn into something more expensive.

Keep defending it though, its so weird the brand power that gabe has over people. So weird.

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– FuckYourBullshit 24 points 104 days ago +24 / -0

i dont know how you guys think spending 500+$ for 0's and 1's is a good ide

Yeah, I couldn't imagine anyone buying movies, tv shows, video games, all of that is just 0's and 1's. Leave technology behind, it has no value.

You are such a shitbag. Classic jew ragebait

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– dzonatan 11 points 103 days ago +11 / -0

There's a world of a difference between downloadable media that you can play on your isolated system without needing an internet connection and seeing a cosmetic item tied to a GaaS that requires internet connection and hoping the service provider simply wont sunset said service.

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– logintoblockcommunit 5 points 104 days ago +5 / -0

Just out of curiosity, is anything NOT a secret ploy of the jews?

Disagreement is the jews. Hot takes is the jews. Overcooking your pancakes in the morning is the jews.

I hate them too, but this shit is turning into this sub's stair muffin.

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– FuckYourBullshit 24 points 104 days ago +24 / -0

It is literally in the Epstein files that they promoted the idea of loot boxes and microtransactions to game development companies to maximize profits. Just like how Epstein was emailing directly with Moot the founder of 4chan. A lot of things didn't come about naturally. Maxwell was a power user on Reddit and helped shaped some of their policy that they implemented.

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– SocraticMethod1 5 points 103 days ago +5 / -0

I still think it hilarious that the ingame currency for CoD microtransactions abbreviates to CP.

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– BeefyBelisarius 9 points 103 days ago +9 / -0

You don't think the Rothschilds are the jews? Or do you just not know how steam's current legal problems began?

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 104 days ago +6 / -0

Half this sub doesn't even know about stair muffins, which is honestly part of the problem.

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Some jokes just have to die of old age, and that's ok.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Maybe, but there's something to be said for keeping the riff raff out.

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– WhitePhoenix 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

there's a lot of 4chan /pol/ refugees here.

The answer for them is no.

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– Graphenium 13 points 104 days ago +13 / -0

The only reason they’re doing lame shit like that is because of all the cucks joining the (herd) and calling loot crates gambling.

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– Kaarous 16 points 104 days ago +16 / -0

Very much this. To all the idiots claiming that any elements of randomness equates to gambling, here you go. Great company you find yourself in.

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– Graphenium 13 points 103 days ago +13 / -0

InB4 they try to ban games like Diablo for having tiered loot as “instilling pro-gambling ideologies into children” (not to mention “enforcing the patriarchal heterodox that some loot is inherently better than others”). They’ll demand we switch to “Loot Type A” and “Loot type B”

And a buncha chumps will be like “well, they got a point!”

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– Kaarous 12 points 103 days ago +12 / -0

Randomness, also called variance, is the key to replayability.

So naturally "some" people absolutely hate it. Inability to adapt is a sign of low intelligence.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 7 points 103 days ago +7 / -0

Or autism. There's a reason why only autists find speedrunning (i.e. playing the same game over and over and over again just to shave a few nanoseconds) fun.

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– Kaarous 2 points 103 days ago +2 / -0

I would argue that in this case while having similar results, comfort in routine and hatred of variety are definitely different enough to warrant the distinction.

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– BandageBandolier 2 points 103 days ago +2 / -0

Variance as applied to people is also the key to why most of their half-baked ideologies don't work, they hate it for ruining their layabout utopia too.

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– WhitePhoenix 3 points 103 days ago +3 / -0

https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/1ASGEEu7BG/x/c/4eaUVlfdMdk

It's this fucking mentality. When you beg the government to ban porn/goonery and "gambling" because it's "bad for society" you get dumb shit like this.

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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 103 days ago +2 / -0

calling loot crates gambling.

Loot crates inside of a GAME... https://www.etymonline.com/word/gamble

Conspiracy side-note: Gabe is short for Gabriel from Hebrew Gabhri el (man of god)...and not just a man of any God but NEW-ELL (new god).

  • Give me steam
  • And how you feel can make it real
  • Real as anything you've seen
  • Get a life with the dreamer's dream
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– RamboDrivesALambo 7 points 103 days ago +7 / -0

Maybe if you'd stop breathing in the sewer vapors like a ratjew you understand it isn't about the 0s and 1s. It's about the principle of defeating an overbearing government power overreaching its authority.

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– CatoTheElder [S] 30 points 104 days ago +30 / -0

Their overall strategy seems to be running Valve out of money, and then crash it so that Epic (Tencent), Microsoft, Apple, and Google can take over Valve's marketplace.

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– brimshae 29 points 104 days ago +29 / -0

Epic (Tencent), Microsoft, Apple, and Google

The Microsoft, Epic, Google, Apple, Facebook, and Amazon Gang are all a bunch of MEGAFAGs.

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– WhitePhoenix 3 points 103 days ago +3 / -0

You forgot Jews.

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– brimshae 2 points 99 days ago +2 / -0

A "J" doesn't fit in there.

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– ScallionPancake 27 points 104 days ago +27 / -0

Their overall strategy seems to be running Valve out of money

Are they fucking retarded? Valve has 300 employees (minimal overhead) and brings in $5 billion dollars a year. On top of that, gamers love the platform. They'll literally go out of their way to defend it if they have to.

Good luck legal kikes and nigger AGs, you won't win. And if you do, a bunch of unemployed gamers will have nothing better to do than just fuck with you guys because you're messing with their dearly held hobbies. I can't wait to see the shitstorm this is going to start.

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– NiggerWithAForklift 7 points 103 days ago +7 / -0

That is precisely why they must knock Valve out through lawfare instead of competing.

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– freedomlogic 2 points 104 days ago +2 / -0

They generate 1 billion dollars a year online in digital skins.

Thats fucking wild, and counter strike/dota2/tf2 are in the worst state they have ever been.

Must be nice to just float on the pacific ocean all day not a worry in the world.

Based on 2025–2026 data, the claim that CS2 skins generate massive amounts of revenue is accurate, with recent estimates suggesting Valve's revenue from in-game cases and keys alone approaches or exceeds $1 billion annually

I dont know if you guys are paying attention but gambling is destroying lives right now, and valve is playing a huge role in that. Its so weird that you guys give them a free pass for it. Most players ive seen agree thats its a casino first, game second.

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– ScallionPancake 29 points 104 days ago +29 / -0

Thats fucking wild, and counter strike/dota2/tf2 are in the worst state they have ever been.

Sure, but valve stopped being a video game company a long time ago. They make way more money selling other people's games on their glorified file server.

I dont know if you guys are paying attention but gambling is destroying lives right now, and valve is playing a huge role in that. Its so weird that you guys give them a free pass for it. Most players ive seen agree thats its a casino first, game second.

I'm not here defending loot boxes or gambling. We're just smart enough to realize they're not doing this for the noble causes they're pretending to care about.

It's about extracting money from a privately held company, and forcing surveillance on all their customers, or whatever hidden nefarious purpose they actually have. CatoTheElder said what their actual motivations are earlier.

You really think a jew named (((Rothschild))) and some nigger AG from NYC really gives a fuck about saving people's lives from gambling?

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– Kaarous 16 points 104 days ago +16 / -0

Wrong.

Idiots with no self control are destroying their own lives. And that kind of person will always find a means to do that to themselves.

Tagging. Drugs. Booze. Shoplifting. Sexual degeneracy.

Literally doesn't matter what the means is. You have a people problem, namely the fact that most people are morons. You're never going to plastic wrap life enough to let those idiots live in a consequence free environment. Take that leftoid utopian nonsense somewhere else, and let the adults live like adults already.

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– redman012 3 points 103 days ago +3 / -0

Ehh, I think cigarette companies not being able to actively lie to you and say that tobacco is good for you (the Surgeon General's warning) is a good thing, as an example.

I personally just want gambling treated the same way as tobacco, legal, but advertising is banned/restricted to right outside of the locations they're sold at

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– CatoTheElder [S] 14 points 104 days ago +14 / -0

That is straight up false. The entire "market cap" is 2.5-3 billion depending on sources. And that is for all skins since they were introduced in 2013. Since valve only gets 30% of that to begin with its only 69 million a year, tops. Or about one Slay the Spire 2.

Edit: Oh and, Valve's games have always been trash. It's only purpose is Steam. And Steam is the only games store that allows negative player reviews. Or reviews at all.

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– MargarineMongoose 6 points 104 days ago +6 / -0

Not entirely true, GOG has player reviews on it. I couldn't tell you how heavily curated they are though, so the point probably still stands.

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– ScallionPancake 6 points 103 days ago +6 / -0

Valve's games have always been trash

I dunno, HL2 and portal were pretty good lol.

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– CatoTheElder [S] 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Eh, I've never played HL2, Halflife1 was eh, and portal is a one and done 5 hour game. Fortunately I didn't pay for it.

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

TF2, whilst not everyone's cup of tea, was great at what it wanted to be.

And that makes it a better game than the bland please-everyone type of games to me, even if it isn't in my personal top 50.

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– covok48 8 points 104 days ago +8 / -0

Heb if I ever saw one.

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– RadiateTonight 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

a bunch of unemployed gamers

Oh no, whatever will they do against a bunch of unemployed gamers writing angry posts on the internet.

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– ScallionPancake 8 points 103 days ago +8 / -0

Go look at what a bunch of unemployed losers did to a guy named Patrick Tomlinson for writing a tweet they didn’t like.

Here:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/swatting-nikki-haley-trump-fbi-stalkers-b2494097.html

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– RadiateTonight 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Mr Tomlinson told The Independent he hopes the arrest will allow police to work out who was paying Mr Filion and who else is behind Torswats. Investigators stated in court documents that they had traced a Discord account to a “privacy-friendly ‘virtual private network’ in Sweden”.

It's not the same thing.

edit and they aren't gamers and why hasn't this happened to all the game journos and so on.

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– ScallionPancake 4 points 103 days ago +4 / -0

You didn't read the article.

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– RadiateTonight 1 point 102 days ago +1 / -0

Why don't you point what it is I didn't read.

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– ScallionPancake 1 point 102 days ago +1 / -0

Just read

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– Unknownsailor 8 points 103 days ago +8 / -0

I think you are correct here.

Remember it is NYAG James that is demanding legal documents from VDARE over and over again, for years on end, all without filing even one charge, all in a successful effort to bankrupt Peter Brimelow. All because Peter had the misfortune to register his foundation in New York.

Tucker recently interviewed Peter Brimelow, I highly recommend everyone watch it.

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– ScallionPancake 5 points 103 days ago +5 / -0

NYAG James

What a fucking whore. This is the same nigger bitch trying to sue valve?

And why are we putting up with this?

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– logintoblockcommunit 2 points 102 days ago +2 / -0

Because, at the risk of fedposting, the modern American is too fat and happy to make corrupt political figures swing from lamp posts.

Fun fact: this is the same bitch who filed the retarded lawsuit against Bad Orange President Man (TM) for "overvaluing" his home to secure loans with it as collateral, while she herself has done the same shit and more besides.

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– SocraticMethod1 2 points 103 days ago +2 / -0

If Valve with Gaben alive EVER runs low of money, it'd be because of a disaster SO big, the people currently sueing them would be dead with billions of other people as Valve is safe in their secret apocalypse bunker.

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– ThreeLights 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

I’m not sure since they generate millions a day in profits. They might be trying to scare them into compliance, dropping the Rothschild Retard case, or trying to save their political jobs (in the case of the New York AG.)

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– CatoTheElder [S] 18 points 104 days ago +18 / -0

The key section:

The NYAG also proposed to gather additional information (beyond what we normally collect in the course of processing payments) about each game user on the off-chance someone in New York was anonymizing their location to appear outside of New York, such as by using a VPN. This would have involved implementing invasive technologies for every user worldwide. Similarly, the NYAG demanded that Valve collect more personal data about our users to do additional age verification—even though most payment methods used by New York Steam users already have age verification built-in. Valve knows our users care about the security of their personal information, and we believe it’s in our and their interest to only collect the information necessary to operate the business and comply with law.

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– ScallionPancake 23 points 104 days ago +23 / -0

Jews saw that a goy had a company that didn't crack down on "hate speech" (that much), and decided to go after it.

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– deleted 17 points 103 days ago +17 / -0
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– alucard13mmfmj 5 points 103 days ago +5 / -0

Apparently Gabe never appears in the Epstein list.

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– GoldenInnosStatue 4 points 103 days ago +4 / -0

That much

bro you can't even say trans women aren't real women in the steam forums without getting a perma ban so no, they want total capitulation of the forum, the platform and even the spyware that lies therein

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– ScallionPancake 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Aren’t those forums usually run by jannies from the game developer?

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– Kaarous 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Yes.

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– ScallionPancake 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

So what's it got to do with valve?

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– Kaarous 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Not a thing.

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– GoldenInnosStatue 1 point 102 days ago +1 / -0

yes and no

there are global steam jannies that CAN ban the developer himself like in the case of Domina Dev (he made an anti-tranny statement in the dev-update, which infuriated trannies all over steam, including the staff)

https://archive.is/lcjbV#selection-507.0-507.74

https://web.archive.org/web/20220314033235/https://shekelhertz.com/steam-sjws-review-bomb-domina-for-ridiculing-face-masks-dev-fires-back/

to summerize it, the mods basically banned the owner from his own board, and anyone who dared praise him

then when he unbanned himself (it was HIS board) and unbanned the users, steam completely nuked his store-page and he was basically forced to sell his game in some forth-rate site called Gumroad (a site for known for shovelware and degenerate furry content not even steam tolerates)

he was also nuked on bandcamp a day later after jewish brigaders found out his gab (which was extremely tame mind you, but it didn't retweet some spicy jew-merchant posts)

in other words steam is a very kosher service that has literal troons in the modding staff, and you will be zucced if not perma'd for saying mean shit about trannies like my friend shekelhertz who got a PERMNANT BAN for making a tranny joke on the halo boards

steam is not your friend mate, they are extremely jewish and the day gaben dies they'll fully reveal their hand

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– GoldenInnosStatue 10 points 103 days ago +10 / -0

Fucking jews can't stop themselves can they?

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– MargarineMongoose 8 points 104 days ago +8 / -0

Is there a means by which Valve can counter attack in the courts to dumpster everyone involved in this bullshit farce of a case? It seems like there ought to be consequences for such blatant attempts at tyranny via the judicial system.

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– Kaarous 27 points 104 days ago +27 / -0

No. The cuckservatives failed to pass tort reform in the nineties and opened us up to the judicial environment we have today.

Now the only genuine recourse to a tyrannical judge is murdering them.

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– MargarineMongoose 15 points 103 days ago +15 / -0

It seems to be that a lot of systems in our society have been locked into an error state where the only solution is to destroy said system because the system can no longer self correct. That seems really arrogant and short sighted if it was done intentionally.

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– Kaarous 15 points 103 days ago +15 / -0

Yes that's what an empire in an advanced state of externally induced decay looks like. A lot of us are just waiting for the shooting to start. .

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 103 days ago +5 / -0

I'd rather seek out solutions than sit around waiting for a war that might never go hot during my lifetime. How long did it take Rome to finally collapse?

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– Kaarous 9 points 103 days ago +9 / -0

Your choices are: accelerate the arrival at the inevitable conclusion, attempt to forestall it, or wait and prepare.

Reform is, deliberately, not possible. So long as universal suffrage is in place, the collapse will occur.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 103 days ago +4 / -0

Well I can happily report that there is at least a segment of the youth that is on board with restricting the franchise more broadly and for women quite specifically. I couldn't tell you how broad that sentiment is, but it exists in large enough quantities that I've encountered it in meat space.

Also I firmly reject the limitation in choices you present. I'm of the belief that reform is in fact possible, it's just that I lack the requisite intelligence to see how to achieve it. There has to be a way, we're just not smart enough to see it.

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– Kaarous 9 points 103 days ago +9 / -0

I'm more aware of that fact than most. Not only my wife but my teenage daughter are both fully in favor of it. It doesn't especially matter how broad the sentiment is either. The proles, truthfully, don't get a say in how other people are going to pick up the pieces of what they broke. The future belongs to the people who want to do something about it, not the slop guzzling masses.

As for whether you like my choices, well frankly you're the one asking me for alternatives. I don't believe there are any. If you believe otherwise it's on you to identify and proliferate that alternative.

I'll keep buying ammo and writing lists in the meantime. Because more intelligent people than I, have come to the same conclusion I have.

It's like the recently disproven theory of evolution. If it were mathematically possible, it ought to have occurred by now and been recorded by somebody.

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– alucard13mmfmj 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Its why some advocate to accelerate or make civil war 2.0. Yeah.. it COULD become worse when dust settles, but currently we are just driving off the cliff at 80mph instead of 90mph via voting or passive methods. If god is on our side and we fighting for good.. it COULD be good outcome.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

driving 70mph buys us more time to wrestle the steering wheel away from the lunatics in the driver's seat though. I just don't see accelerationism as anything other than naively optimistic fatalism. It's giving up and hoping for the best rather than figuring out how to actually fix shit. Even if the inevitable outcome is going over the cliff, going over the cliff faster is a terrible goal. The goal should be to avoid the cliff.

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– Ndvdmm 3 points 103 days ago +3 / -0

Ofc they would go after valve/steam. After buying ig, X, tiktok, discord. The job of these POS is to ruin everything. Total control freak bastards. The goal is to ruin the whole internet. Pieces of sh3t. Enough of this woke white replacement bs.

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– WhitePhoenix 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Letitia James? Bruh, if you guys have been paying attention, that bitch has been taken L's EVERYWHERE.

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– RadiateTonight 1 point 103 days ago +1 / -0

Valve knows our users care about the security of their personal information, and we believe it’s in our and their interest to only collect the information necessary to operate the business and comply with law.

Valve harvests and snoops on personal info, serials numbers and so on which makes this comment not very true.

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