Everywhere you go you'll always hear and see people talking about or engaging in positive and enjoyable social experiences like it's the most normal thing in the world, and they speak about them as though it's a given that everyone is able to experience while being completely ignorant and dismissive of men like me who are unwanted everywhere I go and hated everywhere I stay. It's absolute torture to see everyone enjoying themselves like this in a way I'd kill to experience all while they're right in front of me. It's just like back in school where every day at lunch I'd be stuck being subjected to seeing others having far more enjoyable lives than me while I was stuck either being alone or at best talking to someone who annoys me. Why can't I have what it seems like comes so easily to everybody else?
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We've had this conversation before. You say you'd kill to get a life but you won't even jog to get in shape. You quit a low tier job after a week because it was vaguely hard.
Other people have what you say you want because they actually put in effort and you put in none. It really is that simple.
That's why I'm married to a beauty queen and make well north of six figures, and you're a shut in with no prospects and no job. Because I actually worked for it.
There is also some luck involved. I went from being a complete looser to family with kids, house in a very good neighbourhood were kids can just leave their bikes on the sidewalk, decent savings. I did change a lot but it was more do to my wife and trying to be the husband she deserved that changed me.
To this day I don't know why she went out with me :)
Why do you suppose that was luck? As opposed to the outcome of your choices and actions?
There was no reason for it to happen. I had no job, little prospects, was living with my parents, spent most of my time playing videogames. My wife was the one that asked me out of all things. How often does that happen? I changed after that and not before.
I'm incredibly lucky. I can see people with much more potential that never managed to get a good wife.
Even my house, I managed to buy it at a very low price and now I live in a neighbourhood that is above what I can afford. There is an entire story behind that.
I expect things to even out in the long run but will see.
It seems to me like you never asked her what her rationale was for her actions?
I was cute
Lmao sounds like female rationale. My wife took an interest in me at first because of my voice.
From the sounds of it even when you were a "complete loser" you were still able to get attention from a woman. That's a position in life I'd kill to have.
Dude, no one is taking you serious, just stop
Funny how nobody has ever taken me seriously despite only speaking the truth and remaining consistent for longer than this site has been around.
Nobody takes you seriously because you can't take yourself seriously enough to get in shape.
I am in shape, but nobody believes me because my life is shitty and I have nothing to do but complain about it.
I don't believe you because you straight up told me you can't run lol.
That's called being not in shape.
Nothing I do would change my situation, every time I try to do something it just leads to misery and hours of my life wasted.
You are wrong, and what's more your life is already being wasted. You have nothing to lose and yet you still refuse to try.
Failure is inevitable with that attitude.
Every time I try has been a time consuming failure that lead to nothing.
We've had this conversation before.
You have never seriously tried at anything in your life.
Your time is worthless. Why not get in shape?
What's the point in getting in shape if I can't even get to a point where that would matter? Don't give me bullshit about health either because the way my life is going all that will mean is more years to live in suffering.
I already AM in shape, so working further from this point while i have no connection is just pointless suffering.
First of all, don't even bother lying to me after last time you admitted you can't even run a mile.
I can run a mile even at my age and one of my legs is more bolts than bones.
Secondly, the point of getting in shape is self improvement, and actually starting to take steps to improve your life.
Because if you don't stop being a lifelong parasite, one day your mother is going to put rat poison in your oatmeal and breathe a sigh of relief when you stop twitching.
Running is high impact and probably would be bad for my back.
My health isn't holding me back, it's the social side of things that I am most lacking.
Death is still better than slaving away to live another day of working myself to death with no escape and nothing that makes life worth living.
You’re just lazy nigga
You're sitting on a gold mine. I made friends and got a girlfriend by linking to your post history and saying that it's me. Everyone loves it, especially women.
You're in a depressive spiral. Go take up a martial art.
Or just so something relatively minor like go outside for a walk and get the metabolism going rather than just sitting wallowing in both unhealthy thoughts as well as physical states. A single walk won't fix everything, but it can at least help get the brain and body active on it doesn't continue to stew in it's own problems more.
walking leaves me with nothing to think about except dwelling on my problems and I'm probably not in the sort of mental state where I should be spending my days walking next to vehicles that could kill me in an instant if I decided to go headfirst into one of them.
No, taking up a martial art fixes both his physical state and forces social interaction which is probably the more important thing he needs right now.
It doesn't force social interaction. I took martial arts as a kid for years and I didn't meet anybody from that.
You intend to be alone and miserable forever and your actions fulfill that intent. Stop whining about achieving the outcome you've been actively pursuing.
I've been doing everything I can to prevent it
You haven’t been doing everything you can. Stop being dramatic.
I am doing things constantly and none of it ever leads anywhere.
He is a jeet. Why would you want to improve his life? He just keep making new accounts and the spamming this sort of bullshit. Mostly he posts to ConPro, but this account has been banned from there, while his newest account OttomanJannisary is spamming there now.
Because I'm not a monster.
Work on fixing that. Every single one of them are our enemies.
I can't tell if you're stupid or evil.
Call me evil, call me racist, call me Nazi, I don't care. I will not be cursed by my decedents like I curse my ancestors for not fixing the problem permanently. There will be no memes about removing Patels 109 times, because they will not exist.
I'm white.
I'm not a jeet and OttomanJannisary is an entirely different guy. Why does everyone always try to slander me like this?
That won't give me a social life or give me back my youth.
Then go crawl in a hole and die instead of using this board as your fucking live journal.
Not like I have anywhere else to post.
Skill Issue. The more you allow yourself to wallow in envy and self pity instead of appreciating and cultivating what you already have, the more you're going to feel this way.
I have basically nothing.
Can we add 4chans "No bawww/life threads" to the rules? Or at least just whining blogposts like this so people can still at least provide anecdotal life stories without it reading like a MySpace page wanting to /wrists.
This isn't just in relation to my life. It's in media everywhere so it fits the context of this board. When was the last time you saw any piece of mass market media where personal emotional bonds are not featured? We're constantly being bombarded with demoralization propaganda designed to drive us to suicide by treating these aspects of life as normal while we are never allowed to come close.
the sheer narcissism on display here
I know someone who acts like this, whenever two others are having fun this person must intervene and prevent the others enjoying themselves.
I'm talking about my mother's dog, who doesn't like it when my dog is playing with my visiting uncle's dog.
No fun allowed!
I bet the dog sniffs fewer buttholes than the OP.
How am a narcissist for being jealous of everyone else experiencing what I crave right in front of me.
Because you insist other people not be happy to make you feel better.
I wouldn't care if they were happy if I were able to have the same experiences, It's the fact that they're enjoying themselves while I'm in the same room sitting alone, feeling like my life is being wasted and just thinking about how all of the friends I've had in the past have eventually left me.
ergo, their right to be happy is predicated on your happiness. that is narcissism.
No, that's just normal jealousy. It's reasonable to be resentful of people who effortlessly have all I crave while I am unable to achieve any of what they have.
it really isn't
It absolutely is. A starving man will resent people for eating in front of him without so much as offering a crumb and that's a rational position to hold, why is it any different when it comes to social starvation?
It's not just not normal it's sinful
You just want me to be miserable without so much as complaining
People need to look into psychological games (transactional analysis), the big famous one 'why don't you - yes but'. It's basically when you have two people, and one has a problem, the other offers takes on a solution giving role, but each solution just gets shot down as somehow unworkable. And it gets repeated. Every single solution gets a "yes, but..." answer.
There's two main times you'll see it being played
Women play that game a lot, they just wanna whinge and get 'sympathy', not actually have the thing solved.
Depressed people play it too, in a sicker, more pathological form (sorry imp). It's clear that tcd isn't actually looking for advice to act on. What he's looking to do is shoot down advice, and in so doing justify his state and belief that everything is helpless. Each bit of advice you give him that he is able to reject as somehow unworkable just serves to further reinforce his sick belief.
It's retarded. We can all plainly see that of course it helps with getting a social life. And it might not literally restore youth but getting fitter does absolutely get you feeling and looking younger and give you more time down the track. In a vacuum it's good advice. Like the jogging. I don't think there is a single man here who doesn't think the same, and doesn't know it would at least help. But that's not what he's here to do. He's here to shoot down your advice.
So my advice to you all, is to stop playing. Don't let yourself be manipulated by depressed people. It takes two people to play this game, and nobody ends up better after doing it. He ends up more convinced its all helpless, and you end up frustrated and fatigued.
That's an interesting point about depressed people, but I suspect TCD is just some sort of weird troll/shill.
I'm not a troll or a shill, everyone just assumes that when I describe my experience.
I'm doing basically everything that's put in front of me and it gets me nowhere misery. Social settings are just psychological torture to me as they show me what I crave within arms reach and yet I am denied access to these experiences
I did martial arts when I was younger and I made no friends from it, all I got out of it was many hours of my life wasted. No reason to think I'd be more successful now after so much more trauma added on, and besides that why would I even want to live longer? So I can live long enough to be truly alone once my family is dead?
Like I said, I'm not playing.
I'm not playing either, I'm trying to have genuine discussions but everyone always shuts me down and refuses to engage.
Have you considered that it's this exact attitude that causes it? No one wants to be around someone who drags themselves and everyone around them down constantly. I'd already rather be anywhere but this thread.
I know that's a part of it, but I can't live in a constant delusion ignoring the constant suffering which occurs any time I try to live a normal life.
That's something interesting. You find there are people below you socially, and don't want to engage with them. Hmm wonder how lonely you really are if you can choose to be selective?
It's possible to be surrounded by NPCs and still be crushingly alone.
You're retarded, I wasn't being selective, I was being dissatisfied with the shitty little scraps I was able to get. You can give a starving man moldy hardtack and he will still tell you that it's not something he'd eat if he had alternatives.
And your a faggy little crybaby you piece of shit. Your the one crying about being lonely but rejecting people putting in effort to know you as annoying. That's being selective you retard.
I wasn't rejecting them, I was judging them silently.
Then don't be surprised when you are judged silently then, you fucking hypocrite
I struggle to even get far enough for people to be willing to interact with me.