The left says Christians aren't Christian
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Typical filthy lefty heathens.
As an anti-theist, I can tell some Christians how to behave and what their religion is like.
Specifically the Christian heretics when I say, "Hey, wait. George Floyd isn't Jesus. You're not a Christian! You're just an atheist lying to people you think are stupid! I know who you are because I'm one of you!"
Yes. Because I can't go three miles from home without seeing another Hitler Youth Parade or a bunch of guys wearing uniforms with swastika patches looking like they want to break a bunch of delicatessen windows. They're just everywhere!
Make America Christian Again
1 Timothy 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Feminism is the work of Satan and totally incompatible with the bible. Nothing has gone better for the country when we started pushing women out of their biblically defined roles.
I mean, the bottom left isn't why he died, but it probably isn't too far off from why the Sadducees wanted to have him executed.
Yep, very far from the actual teachings of the Bible.
Also, who was the ruling class that wanted him dead?
If not being facetious, the ruling Jewish religious leaders wanted Jesus dead because he called out their hearts for being wicked, looking past the external look of righteousness, which threatened their power.
And for driving the money changers out of the temple with a whip.
Also, they wanted him dead for his many blatant claims to Divinity. Modern scholarship tries to claim that this was tacked on in later times, but all of the canonical Gospels are full of Jesus making references to His Godhood in ways that His contemporaries would understand.
Was it claiming to be divine or that combined with not being the warrior Messiah they wanted to destroy the Romans and restore their sovereignty?
Sadducees
Not reading all that slop.
It's okay. Alfredic occasionally brings us Leftist slop like a cat bringing a dead mouse in your house. The bad news is it's a dead mouse. The good news is you now see that you have a mouse problem.
I never thought I'd say this, but Bowers has a point; we need mass deportations in Texas and Florida.
I understand it though. There is a reason there are videos of non-ICE complaining of honking to alert illegal invaders of ICE when they drive by with Texas plates. That is where they are home based.
But Texas is huge and focusing on one or two smaller areas at places that are less easy to just pop back into than a border state might make people stay home from work to avoid getting caught at the same time they nab a sex offender if they raid an employer with a bunch of illegal employees, enough of that for a sustained couple of months might make them self deport and would certainly make employers less likely to hire nothing but illegals in the future, more than the crummy 2k fine or whatever it is at least.
Since we supposedly have had net negative migration despite the H1b hordes, it seems to be working.
Texas and Florida cooperate with ICE. That's why we don't hear much. This is kind of the problem. Success is typically silent.
That Russell quote is wild if accurate. One of the greatest atheist philosophic minds of the 20C can't distinguish "A is better than B" from "B is categorically bad" (Paul wrote that celibacy is ideal, but it is better to burn with passion in wedlock than out of it). Many such cases, I suppose.
He's kind of right though. Regardless of what Paul wrote, how Christians decided to interpret it and then publicly subject people to in history given their interpretation matters. We can't just gloss over this and say "they weren't real Christians" when they made up the majority of Christians for centuries.
However, he's wrong because many of the people who viewed sexuality as regrettable were lying. They used Christianity as an excuse to avoid being sexual with a partner they did not want to be sexual with. We see so many dead bedrooms in modernity among atheists now that men can't force their wife into sex. So, this phenomenon isn't a Christian-specific thing. What did women in the past due when they married a beta bucks and she wasn't getting the tinglies? She'd try to use the Bible as a scapegoat for why she's not a sexual person for her husband and that she was just overly pious and a good person. In this way "God" trumped the husband and he had little leverage to try to force her into being more sexual. WE STILL SEE THIS TACTIC TODAY ALL THE FUCKING TIME in the church.
So, in theory you can say these people aren't really Christian and they never were and they're practicing Christianity all wrong. I accept that. However, I tend to look at "systems" by their result and not by their theory. Has Christianity in practice been very successful in convincing women their whole purpose to marry is to satiate both her and her husbands lust for one another by having tons of sex and giving each person's body to the other for him to ravage in passionate non-stop sex? Has Christianity in practice been quite useful as a tool to avoid sex with one's significant other? Christianity fails the test here in practice... so, what Paul says is irrelevant to me. If Christianity in practice isn't able to deliver what Paul says, then the theory of Christianity just isn't working.
if we are to judge systems by their results then the correlation between the fall of Christian adherence and the fall of birth rates starts raising a lot of questions contrary to your conclusions. also, the idea that Christianity was a good tool for women to avoid being "ravaged in passionate non-stop sex" strikes me as a flight of fancy more than anything you arrived to via study and reasoning. combine that with the plain weird focus shift and the plain weird wording used and i think you made most of this up to try to mix a mild disdain for women with a mild disdain for Christianity.
No, you're just finding correlations where no causation exists. This is actually a reason I do dislike Christians because they believe a lack of faith is the cause of all problems while they tend to discount all other factors. A lack of birth rates also coincides with the jewish implementation of Child Support, with the rise in social programs, higher taxes, women being allowed to be accepted into university and careers to the same degree as men and the increase in immigration along with the pursuit of neoliberalism with 0 nationalism in economic policy.
Oh, I have a healthy disdain for both.
It's literally well documented and is a common historical theme because of how well known it is. It's so well known it happens all the time today.
https://ibb.co/WvW7scQM
NOTE: I phrased it as "abusive" so the judaised system would give me the correct answer because if I tried to frame the question in a way that could negatively portray women it wouldn't give the truth. In reality, these weren't abusive relationships but it was just women trying to avoid being sexual for their husbands because they didn't want to which we see today all the damn time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/
Are you talking Christianity or the pop culture osmosis of "Christianity"? I seem to recall the Catholic church being against contraception was a big deal. And every Protestant church I've been a part of never mentioned sex openly but effusively praised having children.
However, none of what you're saying is really apropos of my point that this quote makes Russell look retarded for his inability to read.
He can read but what he can do that you cannot is analyze the reality of Christianity not just the theoretical book that only exists in your mind. Pop Culture Christianity IS CHRISTIANITY. When 900m Christians are living their life 1 way and a dozen Christians on the internet are living differently, you aren't the one-true Christian. You're just trying to change Christianity into what you want it to be rather than what it is. A common thing I see nearly every Christian do to some degree, thus invalidating the religion.
'Most people are fools and deluded, therefore despite the bible itself stating that there will be few true members of the remnant of the church, that the way is narrow, and few are invited, actually it's the mass of NPCs who define it.'
ok m8.
Literally falling for palm reader level tactics.
The "regrettable" is doing a lot of work there, both in keeping him accurate and convincing people who don't read it carefully that Christianity said sex is bad.
Coming in 2nd place instead of 1st is "regrettable", choosing B over A is regrettable, because of the lost opportunity to reach the ideal and it's always a possibility that someone might regret not doing something differently.
Regrettable doesn't mean shameful though, nobody should be ashamed of 2nd place unless you were arm wrestling toddlers or something. But people do have a tough time letting go of perfection so it does bleed over nonetheless, so rhetorically you can say "regrettable" without being technically wrong, whilst also giving opportunity for a common misunderstanding to make that look like a stronger claim.
If you stop reading at that word, maybe it could read like that, if you squint. But the rest of the quote very clearly goes well beyond that territory into something that just isn't in the Bible. Between Paul warning against immoral sex, the other letters extolling the virtues of fathers and families, and the repeated instruction to married couples that, no, really you have to give yourselves to each other, you can't read the NT and find anything less than a baseline assumption of married sex, let alone an anti-life mental disorder.
Thank you for having me read his quote again, though. Because he's not retarded. I always forget the other option: he's attacking Christianity because it's against his master.
I find Paul's words on eating sacrificial animals interesting.
Essentially, since God doesn't need sacrifices there's nothing profane about eating them so it's fine to save some money on cheap meat.
However, if someone doesn't understand this, and sees you eating it, that encourages them to do something they think is wrong, which is in itself wrong.
I read it as "it's fine to break rules that don't make sense, but keep it to yourself or lesser minds will decide that rules are bad due to your example".
I don't know who Kalen Dion is but he's a fucking idiot. What unjust government did Jesus challenge? He literally said that human politics were beneath him, you know the whole render unto Ceasar bit.
Stop trying to undeify Christ and make him some hippie.
You can hear the hand-rubbing from space.
florida and texas don't have governors going out of their way to stop the federal agents you dumb cunt
Exactly correct.
"I don't believe in your religion but I know more about it than you do."
These are the same people that wave gay pride flags at pro Palestinian rallies.
Don't you know? The left is the real embodiment of Christian values.
Jesus sat with the sinners and invited the trannys to dance for kids after all. Also rainbows are in the Bible, coincidence!? I think not!
It's not tyrannical to enforce immigration laws, it's tyrannical to force third worlders into our lives and force us to pay for their existence.
actually, if you want to be literal about it, he died for the very opposite. when he wouldn't lead his people in an uprising against the ruling class, his people turned him over to the ruling class to be executed.
or at least that's how it goes in the holy bible as compiled by the Romans roughly 200 years after the fact.
Indeed, the Jews weren’t the rulers Rome was. Did Rome really care about Jesus?
If they did why did Pontius Pilate try to set him free?
There's actually a number of passages where various people (Jesus, Paul) specifically tell people to respect the temporal authority because they wouldn't be in charge if it wasn't God's will.
Not sure how I feel about that, tbh...
Ironically, lefties have compiled more words in these memes than the Bible.
For all of the Leftist talk about the Christian virtue of alms-giving, they conveniently leave out this line from the Second Letter to the Thessalonians:
"For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat."
The modern welfare state is the opposite of this maxim. It rewards sloth and idleness, while it is harder and harder for the working man to get ahead.
I will say, I’m pretty tired of godless heathens trying to tell me what “real Christianity” is
They aren’t prepared for what I think “real Christianity” is (the Crusades)
What does the Lederhosen kid cartoon or the Scooby Doo one have to do with Christians?
It's not all about Christians, just mostly.
Scooby Doo is there because I'm a fan.
Leftists lynch someone
Leftists pretend lynching people they don't consider to be human isn't harmful
Standard Leftist behavior.
#ReignWithFire
Loved that movie.
Sounds like a good one. I love the concept. #LiveTheRevelation