It would have been really easy and professional to just say "Patreon discounts no longer apply to OEM merchandise" or "Patreon discounts have a maximum of $100 per order for all future orders to protect our ability to make money"
I was curious so I looked more into the thread and apparently the guy who did that deal donated to their disaster relief fund presumably after seeing the complaint, so I assume it was never brought to his attention in the first place. https://x.com/pnwguerrilla/status/1961162013327200492 "Bullying works" is the response. Odd.
I don't know some seem to love it, but not being a pussy and acting like an adult are not mutually exclusive behaviors.
In this case I'm sure it could have been handled better by the seller and not shitting on the dude publicly. But this whole idea of you can get away with it cause it's legal doesn't mean you aren't abusing a vendor. I read the buyer made some donations so he was clearly more interested in supporting the seller so that's cool.
I'd say if you are within your own community it makes sense to think beyond terms and conditions and consider it more by the golden rule of do unto others what you want them to do unto you.
Look, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re getting at arbitrage here, and I agree you can blame people for that, but this isn’t arbitrage. This is a dumb faggot crashing out because he made an oversight designing his system and can’t handle it maturely. The coupon was only available to this guy as a Patreon reward. Does that sound like a guy who was likely trying to exploit a loophole? What’s your theory of mind here? Because mine is that this guy—who, again, only gets this discount because he donates money on a monthly basis—thought something like “oh, hey, the store I like is selling a product I like. I’ll buy it. It’s nice that I get [X%] off for being a Patreon supporter!”
A good way for the store owner to have handled this is DM’ing the guy to say “look, I overlooked this, the coupon shouldn’t have worked,” and then depending on exactly how bad this is for his financial position, either eat the damages this time and fix it going forward, or try to get his Patreon member who he already knows is a loyal supporter of his to agree to something else. There is no world in which a passive aggressive meltdown where you imply you could “lose” his order but keep the money is appropriate. Nor is it appropriate to crow victory over having “bullied” your supporter into giving you more money by semi-publicly shaming him over your mistake.
"The Jews have trained you well!" is a reference to the intertemporal jewish race war conspiracy where by jews hypnotize, coerce, deceive, bribe, or otherwise manipulate the populations of most countries in order to keep asserted inferior races in subservience to jews. What you are claiming is that lapalapa is arguing a viewpoint that was installed in him by international jewish propaganda in their never ending race war against humanity.
Really seems like he is stirring up drama for greater impressions and reach and its working out for him.
He could have quietly changed the policy and be accountable for his own mistake. Instead blamed the customer, whines and moans about what the customer did to him.
"Bullying works". He needs to hold his frame better instead of going straight into a bitch fit about how his customer took advantage of his mistake.
Nevermind just whiny, borderline retarded/female. Customers aren't supposed to read your mind to know your margins. If you know they're too tight for discounts just put "not eligible for coupons" on the items. Otherwise they're going to presume competence and take your word at face value.
And if you forgot about the coupon and got a big order like that, then sending an email saying "hey man, our bad, we weren't intending to allow double discounts on those items. We'll honor the terms, but wanted to let you know we're actually losing money like this if that impacts your decision" is less likely to lose customers rather than bitching on social media about someone making a legit and straightforward purchase.
Especially since the coupon is only available to Patreon supporters. You already know this customer likes you! He probably wasn’t intending to fuck you out of money, and in fact would very likely not want to do that. One polite DM may very well have gotten the order cancelled with no drama. Instead he’s made a circus out of berating a customer who gives him money for nothing on a monthly basis.
This guy is a moderately big right wing influencer who is pro-white and anti-Israel and all the other good stuff. Didn't stop him from acting like the Merchant of Venice over $500. Sad.
As to the significance of this, I think this probably could've happened in any time period with coupon codes, but it made me think about how today's right wing needs to learn to be understanding and Christian toward each other and abandon the dog-eat-dog mindless libertarianism of boomer past.
Using a coupon code that the business gave you is not nigger behavior.
If the margins are as catastrophic as he says (I doubt it. He said $500) then you can go hat in hand to the buyer privately, admit your mistake, and ask to work things out. But it's YOUR mistake. The buyer doesn't have your cashflow statement in front of him.
Abusing a coupon is in fact nigger behavior. The dude posted it because he’s now ending the coupon because it was abused and he would lose to much, it’s not like he doxxed the person. You blaming the business owner for someone gaming a coupon is the exact reason why we don’t have nice things in society anymore. If everything has to be locked down with legalize to be nigger and jeet proof then you’re demanding the shithole society simply because you want to exploit something.
Why the customer aware of how damaging what he did is? Because the seller makes it seem like he is in the cusp of losing everything based off this sale.
From what it looks like is seller got in stock that is pricier than anything he carried before, the coupon existed before the stock. It’s an oversight flaw but something any rational person would have noticed when getting a massive discount on a product with a low overhead.
If you’re too dumb to know thermal pricing then you’re too dumb to be using thermal in the first place. The seller is mad because he got fucked over by a customer, and now has to end the coupon use for everyone. This is a simple case of don’t abuse a good thing because it will end and never come back.
The seller presumably knows how much thermal costs, and he knows his own fucking coupon system so he’s the biggest retard for letting it happen in the first place.
Its most likely an automated system for whatever checkout system he’s using. Probably didn’t set the criteria well enough or couldnt due to limitations on the software
And you want a society filled with niggers and jeets as a result. “If you don’t make something bulletproof, it’s your fault” is the argument of a lazy stupid person. You might as well smear shit on yourself and start shitting in the streets, because that is 100% low trust society third world behavior.
I consider abuse of a business policy to be using it in a way that defeats its purpose. Such as returning boots after trashing them for years because they have a "lifetime warranty."
In this case the purpose of the coupon is simply to discount items and the customer is incapable of reading the owner's mind or making business decisions for him.
I consider abuse of a business policy to be using it in a way that defeats its purpose. Such as returning boots after trashing them for years because they have a "lifetime warranty."
In this case the purpose of the coupon is simply to discount items and the customer is incapable of reading the owner's mind or making business decisions for him.
Again, I get it, you want a low trust society. You don’t have to keep reiterating it. The purpose of the coupon was for items at a far lower value. New expensive stock comes in at a low overhead and customers shouldn’t be expected to think about things! They just consume, that’s their job right?! Consume everything as cheap as possible because that’s what a consumer does!
I would like to get some more info on how the coupon was enabled, quick understanding of the tiers makes me presume that it was a higher tier with most tier requiring multiple months before receiving the rewards, thus meaning that the cost must be further reducted from the coupon granted, if we take 3 months as the min on highest tier that would mean a reduction of 150 from the coupon meaning the cost was 350 (I don't like when people try to exaggerate their pains).
Furthermore you are telling me that using one coupon for an item is nigger behavior if the seller makes a mistake in their cost/ratio? I could potentially see it if you are setting it into systemic use, but if I see an item I want and i got a coupon why would it be my duty to ensure that the entire production chain is valid? That is a insane system of bureaucracy. I hope you know every step of purchase you do and their full production chain, I need to know every margin is correct?
Do explain how it is the customers fault in this regard.
Youre assuming the buyer knew it was a mistake. Seeing as he apparently was a Patreon supporter and donated hundreds to charity in response, it's fairly clear he wasn't trying to bilk the dude out of some money.
Youre assuming the buyer knew it was a mistake. Seeing as he apparently was a Patreon supporter and donated hundreds to charity in response, it's fairly clear he wasn't trying to bilk the dude out of some money.
Cocksucker runs a patreon - meaning an adult, able bodied man begs for charity. So fuck his complaining about anything related.
Honestly, I'm amazed how running a patreon (or any analogous action) is considered to be ok within the right-wing. Oh, it's a parasite, but it's our parasite, I guess.
It had its place when most of them were getting demonitized for existing on any other format, leaving it as one of the only ways to be paid to make content outside of direct merch. Now that isn't as much the case and yet people beg like it is.
That's why I like the guy Wendigoon, as milquetoast and a little gay as he can be at times, because the moment he reached enough subscribers, he just closed it and instead relied on making more content directly to make income.
I think it depends on the content, doesn't it? Some Patreons (using the term loosely; the actual site Patreon itself is left-aligned and should probably be avoided) are essentially like self-publishing a magazine, where the reader is essentially paying a monthly fee for access to articles, or videos, or whatever. Even set ups with less content behind the paywall, where the Patreon is functioning closer to a tip jar with a handful of goodies thrown in, don't bother me if the creator produces regularly. In fact, I think a big problem on the right is a relative lack of patronage. We don't have as many people employed to produce and influence culture as the left does, we haven't over the past six-seven decades, and the results show in the left's dominance, only more recently being challenged and still far from broken, on most mass media cultural fronts. If any right-wing artist/writer/producer can make a living off producing right-wing media, even if they do it through crowdfunding-type systems, I think that's a good thing as long as they do actually produce quality content on a repeated, semi-regular basis.
On the other hand, this guy's Patreon appears to have been last updated in 2023, so yeah, fuck him.
Not looking like a greedy, whiny faggot is worth way more than $500.
It would have been really easy and professional to just say "Patreon discounts no longer apply to OEM merchandise" or "Patreon discounts have a maximum of $100 per order for all future orders to protect our ability to make money"
I was curious so I looked more into the thread and apparently the guy who did that deal donated to their disaster relief fund presumably after seeing the complaint, so I assume it was never brought to his attention in the first place. https://x.com/pnwguerrilla/status/1961162013327200492 "Bullying works" is the response. Odd.
I don't know some seem to love it, but not being a pussy and acting like an adult are not mutually exclusive behaviors.
Sure sounds like he designed his discount system unwisely. You can't blame a consumer for making rational decisions.
He doesn't appear to blame him in his comments but he does so in a very passive aggressive way.
Definitely not exactly the diplomatic way to approach this subject / screw up.
How much money do I have to donate to this faggot until I’m no longer jewish?
Don’t worry, you made it abundantly clear you love low trust societies, do you have your own coin clipper or are you waiting for a coupon on it?
Damn, didn't know using coupons was illegal activity.
Someone better start locking up all our grandmas for their hobby of saving money at the grocery store.
In this case I'm sure it could have been handled better by the seller and not shitting on the dude publicly. But this whole idea of you can get away with it cause it's legal doesn't mean you aren't abusing a vendor. I read the buyer made some donations so he was clearly more interested in supporting the seller so that's cool.
I'd say if you are within your own community it makes sense to think beyond terms and conditions and consider it more by the golden rule of do unto others what you want them to do unto you.
Also I pointed out legality vs morality and you went back to justifying it based on legality. I think you're missing the point. Very Judaic of you lol
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Do not assert that poor behavior is innate to an identity group.
What if poor behavior is innate to an identity group?
Rule 16 just reads "You can't say true things if Dom doesn't like them."
Look, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re getting at arbitrage here, and I agree you can blame people for that, but this isn’t arbitrage. This is a dumb faggot crashing out because he made an oversight designing his system and can’t handle it maturely. The coupon was only available to this guy as a Patreon reward. Does that sound like a guy who was likely trying to exploit a loophole? What’s your theory of mind here? Because mine is that this guy—who, again, only gets this discount because he donates money on a monthly basis—thought something like “oh, hey, the store I like is selling a product I like. I’ll buy it. It’s nice that I get [X%] off for being a Patreon supporter!”
A good way for the store owner to have handled this is DM’ing the guy to say “look, I overlooked this, the coupon shouldn’t have worked,” and then depending on exactly how bad this is for his financial position, either eat the damages this time and fix it going forward, or try to get his Patreon member who he already knows is a loyal supporter of his to agree to something else. There is no world in which a passive aggressive meltdown where you imply you could “lose” his order but keep the money is appropriate. Nor is it appropriate to crow victory over having “bullied” your supporter into giving you more money by semi-publicly shaming him over your mistake.
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Asserting intertemporal jewish racial conspiracy
How? I’m going to need a full explanation.
"The Jews have trained you well!" is a reference to the intertemporal jewish race war conspiracy where by jews hypnotize, coerce, deceive, bribe, or otherwise manipulate the populations of most countries in order to keep asserted inferior races in subservience to jews. What you are claiming is that lapalapa is arguing a viewpoint that was installed in him by international jewish propaganda in their never ending race war against humanity.
It not a conspiracy, it is a fundamental part of jewish identity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam
Why are you denying jews their beliefs?
No it’s not. In fact you made this up. Can you prove that was my intent or are you just making up shit?
How many layers of schizo does one need to be in order to come up with and understand such a thing?
Rent fucking free
Yea, this behavior seems very weird.
Really seems like he is stirring up drama for greater impressions and reach and its working out for him.
He could have quietly changed the policy and be accountable for his own mistake. Instead blamed the customer, whines and moans about what the customer did to him.
"Bullying works". He needs to hold his frame better instead of going straight into a bitch fit about how his customer took advantage of his mistake.
Nevermind just whiny, borderline retarded/female. Customers aren't supposed to read your mind to know your margins. If you know they're too tight for discounts just put "not eligible for coupons" on the items. Otherwise they're going to presume competence and take your word at face value.
And if you forgot about the coupon and got a big order like that, then sending an email saying "hey man, our bad, we weren't intending to allow double discounts on those items. We'll honor the terms, but wanted to let you know we're actually losing money like this if that impacts your decision" is less likely to lose customers rather than bitching on social media about someone making a legit and straightforward purchase.
Good points, especially considering this guy is apparently an online personality and goodwill with his audience is so important.
Especially since the coupon is only available to Patreon supporters. You already know this customer likes you! He probably wasn’t intending to fuck you out of money, and in fact would very likely not want to do that. One polite DM may very well have gotten the order cancelled with no drama. Instead he’s made a circus out of berating a customer who gives him money for nothing on a monthly basis.
This guy is a moderately big right wing influencer who is pro-white and anti-Israel and all the other good stuff. Didn't stop him from acting like the Merchant of Venice over $500. Sad.
As to the significance of this, I think this probably could've happened in any time period with coupon codes, but it made me think about how today's right wing needs to learn to be understanding and Christian toward each other and abandon the dog-eat-dog mindless libertarianism of boomer past.
I don’t blame the guy, the buyer pulled nigger behavior. A loss is a loss, and he’s still honoring the transaction.
Using a coupon code that the business gave you is not nigger behavior.
If the margins are as catastrophic as he says (I doubt it. He said $500) then you can go hat in hand to the buyer privately, admit your mistake, and ask to work things out. But it's YOUR mistake. The buyer doesn't have your cashflow statement in front of him.
Abusing a coupon is in fact nigger behavior. The dude posted it because he’s now ending the coupon because it was abused and he would lose to much, it’s not like he doxxed the person. You blaming the business owner for someone gaming a coupon is the exact reason why we don’t have nice things in society anymore. If everything has to be locked down with legalize to be nigger and jeet proof then you’re demanding the shithole society simply because you want to exploit something.
Why the customer aware of how damaging what he did is? Because the seller makes it seem like he is in the cusp of losing everything based off this sale.
No, and he actually apologized, and donated hundreds of dollars.
Which I don't think he needed to, but is a nice gesture, and he wanted to support the guy he bought from.
It's the seller's fault for how he set things up, but it all worked out for everyone.
Seller shouldn’t have public shamed the dude and messaged him directly
For sure. And then not bragged about 'bullying working,' when it was the seller's fault in the first place.
Right, but if anything, that proves that he didn’t know, and Ahaus is way off base here.
That's my point.
From what it looks like is seller got in stock that is pricier than anything he carried before, the coupon existed before the stock. It’s an oversight flaw but something any rational person would have noticed when getting a massive discount on a product with a low overhead.
If you’re too dumb to know thermal pricing then you’re too dumb to be using thermal in the first place. The seller is mad because he got fucked over by a customer, and now has to end the coupon use for everyone. This is a simple case of don’t abuse a good thing because it will end and never come back.
The seller presumably knows how much thermal costs, and he knows his own fucking coupon system so he’s the biggest retard for letting it happen in the first place.
Its most likely an automated system for whatever checkout system he’s using. Probably didn’t set the criteria well enough or couldnt due to limitations on the software
And you want a society filled with niggers and jeets as a result. “If you don’t make something bulletproof, it’s your fault” is the argument of a lazy stupid person. You might as well smear shit on yourself and start shitting in the streets, because that is 100% low trust society third world behavior.
I consider abuse of a business policy to be using it in a way that defeats its purpose. Such as returning boots after trashing them for years because they have a "lifetime warranty."
In this case the purpose of the coupon is simply to discount items and the customer is incapable of reading the owner's mind or making business decisions for him.
Again, I get it, you want a low trust society. You don’t have to keep reiterating it. The purpose of the coupon was for items at a far lower value. New expensive stock comes in at a low overhead and customers shouldn’t be expected to think about things! They just consume, that’s their job right?! Consume everything as cheap as possible because that’s what a consumer does!
I would like to get some more info on how the coupon was enabled, quick understanding of the tiers makes me presume that it was a higher tier with most tier requiring multiple months before receiving the rewards, thus meaning that the cost must be further reducted from the coupon granted, if we take 3 months as the min on highest tier that would mean a reduction of 150 from the coupon meaning the cost was 350 (I don't like when people try to exaggerate their pains).
Furthermore you are telling me that using one coupon for an item is nigger behavior if the seller makes a mistake in their cost/ratio? I could potentially see it if you are setting it into systemic use, but if I see an item I want and i got a coupon why would it be my duty to ensure that the entire production chain is valid? That is a insane system of bureaucracy. I hope you know every step of purchase you do and their full production chain, I need to know every margin is correct?
Do explain how it is the customers fault in this regard.
You're correct. You shouldn't have to have a lawyer go over every decision you make just to not get screwed by some rules lawyering faggot.
A high trust society means you don't take advantage of others mistakes.
Youre assuming the buyer knew it was a mistake. Seeing as he apparently was a Patreon supporter and donated hundreds to charity in response, it's fairly clear he wasn't trying to bilk the dude out of some money.
Youre assuming the buyer knew it was a mistake. Seeing as he apparently was a Patreon supporter and donated hundreds to charity in response, it's fairly clear he wasn't trying to bilk the dude out of some money.
Oh yes white people can never do anything negative in your mind lmao.
What a faggot. Guess who won't ever buy anything from a faggot? This guy.
Free shipping as well? However will he feed his family?
Cocksucker runs a patreon - meaning an adult, able bodied man begs for charity. So fuck his complaining about anything related.
Honestly, I'm amazed how running a patreon (or any analogous action) is considered to be ok within the right-wing. Oh, it's a parasite, but it's our parasite, I guess.
It had its place when most of them were getting demonitized for existing on any other format, leaving it as one of the only ways to be paid to make content outside of direct merch. Now that isn't as much the case and yet people beg like it is.
That's why I like the guy Wendigoon, as milquetoast and a little gay as he can be at times, because the moment he reached enough subscribers, he just closed it and instead relied on making more content directly to make income.
I think it depends on the content, doesn't it? Some Patreons (using the term loosely; the actual site Patreon itself is left-aligned and should probably be avoided) are essentially like self-publishing a magazine, where the reader is essentially paying a monthly fee for access to articles, or videos, or whatever. Even set ups with less content behind the paywall, where the Patreon is functioning closer to a tip jar with a handful of goodies thrown in, don't bother me if the creator produces regularly. In fact, I think a big problem on the right is a relative lack of patronage. We don't have as many people employed to produce and influence culture as the left does, we haven't over the past six-seven decades, and the results show in the left's dominance, only more recently being challenged and still far from broken, on most mass media cultural fronts. If any right-wing artist/writer/producer can make a living off producing right-wing media, even if they do it through crowdfunding-type systems, I think that's a good thing as long as they do actually produce quality content on a repeated, semi-regular basis.
On the other hand, this guy's Patreon appears to have been last updated in 2023, so yeah, fuck him.