After speaking with @jacobawells on Spaces, he explained that the payment processors they utilize for their system are not owned by them. Because of this, these processors can exert pressure or cause problems that will ultimately derail everything. Because of this they disabled the comments before ((mainstream media)) leveraged a shut down. The campaign for Shiloh will continue 💯
Still sounds like a preemptive move. I would think they should wait for the actual demand for censorship to come, and then (perhaps after the campaigns finish) name and shame the party/ies threatening GSG.
I find this entirely believable, and while I don't like it, I can understand it. I watched what payment processors did to Gab in 2017, and it got so bad for a while the only way anyone could pay for their Gab Pro account was by mailing a paper check to a snail mail address. AFAIK Gab CEO Andrew Torba still doesn't have a personal debit card because Visa threatened to take away credit card processing from any bank he or Gab had an account with.
I believe we're in a moment right now where social or political pressure could be effectively applied against these money movers. Debanking has at least been brought into the spotlight recently, if only briefly. It needs addressing at some point.
The comments were bad but have you seen what white people wrote. Always find a way to attack white people and make them the worse. Is he self hating or a fellow white
this, name and shame when they request censorship is how this can start disintergrating.
As someone else pointed out what was done to gab getting more public view will not go well for them, they make these moves because they think they are faceless suits, the person they extort usual reciving all the heat for their descion.
they dont want people looking at how much power and influence they have because then they stand to loose it.
While I appreciate your attempt to be within the rules, you are still advocating violence, so it still needs to be removed. Using "[rule 2]" doesn't change the substance of what you're arguing.
You sound exactly like the guy being rightfully made fun of in the OP, and this thread. Hordes of comments by nons making threatening comments against White people is "free speech". But, if a single White person responds in kind, even to the smallest degree, all of a sudden it's bad, it's hate speech, and it must be censored.
Traitors deserve death.
That kind of speech is allowed under the 1st Amendment, and it's repeatedly been defended by the Supreme Court.
I wonder if GSG & Wells have improved their cybersecurity since they allowed the donor lists of the 2022 trucker convoy to be hacked.
Which allowed leftists to use the leaked name & address data to create searchable Google street maps of the homes where supporters lived to harass them, allowed employers like local police forces to suspend their workers on administrative leave for making small donations and had government-backed journalist apparatchiks using the lists to identify supporters in the press to name & shame while publishing their info for "comment".
If you can't tell from the blatant hypocrisy that Jacob Wells (of GiveSendGo) displayed between Karmelo Anthony's fundraiser and Shiloh Hendrix's fundraiser (that u/FrozeInFear posted), then it's obvious that GSG wasn't hacked, they were "hacked". Meaning, they gave out that info for lefties to doxx and hurt the truckers, and merely used the excuse of "hacking" as plausible deniability. Hypocrites are ipso facto liars. Stop trusting known liars.
It's not just opsec or trannifa spergs or useful idiot mercs we need to be worried about. Nation states will correctly characterise donors, particularly international ones, as the most politically energised and unapologetic voices against anti-whiteness. Payment processors will be eager to give this info to glowies - maybe they won't even need to be asked.
$500k is great and I hope it hits 7 figures, not least because a larger crowd gives better anonymity. I hope Americans really knock it out of the park. But for European donors I'm not sure the numbers are big enough yet to overwhelm the potential honeytrap. It's the only reason I haven't donated as it stands.
I didn't check out Shiloh's page much, but everything seemed very pro-white, with some anti-black stuff.
Meanwhile the Karmelo page was nonstop hate and cheering on of violence.
Vastly different tones.
Neither should be censored, in my opinion, but the conflation especially is a bit much. Having a positive opinion on white people is not the same as cheering on murder and stoking racial hatred.
Yeah okay… “sought to fuel division” lol….No, those comments on give send go are a show of support for all Whites who stand up to the anti-White hate being fueled by corporate media and government in the non-White community. Non-Whites are naturally jealous of us as it is, then jews take that jealousy and couple it with a barrage of propaganda telling nons that they’re all struggling because Whites hold them back, and what you get is millions of nons who cheer on the destruction of White people. Whites thought they could be nice enough to gain the respect of nons, and now we know it doesn’t matter what we say or do, nons will hate us regardless so we are taking our own side, at least in cases when Whites merely stand up to nons who commit crimes against us.….those comments are not fueling division, they’re fueling White cohesion, and that’s the real crime here.
If it wasn't done in reaction to Shiloh (absurd, since it was specifically mentioned and targeted), why does how many people were viewing her fundraiser matter?
I get he's caught in a tough spot, but he's being a lying shitbag.
So the TL;DR is that they capped both at a half million, they will deliver the money raised, but they disabled the comment sections of each fundraiser, because they didn't like what they saw.
People have been pushed and pushed and pushed. They finally get to vent some of that frustration, and donate money to literally put money where their mouth is, and they're told to pound sand.
They want a race war so fucking bad. But those in charge have already chosen a winner in the war, and there's still people like this just letting it happen.
they disabled the comment sections of each fundraiser, because they didn't like what they saw.
Which is a lie. Fucker was bragging about free speech a week ago. He said he didn't like all the tribal blacks calling for violence against white people and shit, but that it was protected speech, and he's let lowly whites make disgusting comments too.
Then as soon as white start saying pro-white stuff (most of it, from what little I saw to be fair, wasn't even anti-black) he shuts it down.
It's bullshit. The Karmelo page that he actively defended (and was right to do so; again, I actually believe in free speech) was so much worse than Shiloh's page.
The conflation between pro-white and violent anti-white sentiment is a slap in the face too. They're not the same. This guy is being a shit. I'm glad he is keeping an open platform for fundraising, so far, which is the primary point, but he's still being a retard.
Carmelo Anthony was found stealing and stabbed someone to death because he got caught.
Shiloh Hendrix caught someone stealing and called them a "nigger".
The difference between these people is night and day, there simply is no comparison
One might even say the difference is black and white.
This coming just under 2 weeks after defending the anti-White comments on the Anthony page.
Edit: From the guy helping organize the fundraiser: https://xcancel.com/Tomhennessey69/status/1918529725649113201
Still sounds like a preemptive move. I would think they should wait for the actual demand for censorship to come, and then (perhaps after the campaigns finish) name and shame the party/ies threatening GSG.
I find this entirely believable, and while I don't like it, I can understand it. I watched what payment processors did to Gab in 2017, and it got so bad for a while the only way anyone could pay for their Gab Pro account was by mailing a paper check to a snail mail address. AFAIK Gab CEO Andrew Torba still doesn't have a personal debit card because Visa threatened to take away credit card processing from any bank he or Gab had an account with.
I believe we're in a moment right now where social or political pressure could be effectively applied against these money movers. Debanking has at least been brought into the spotlight recently, if only briefly. It needs addressing at some point.
Yes it does.
I personally am for making our own systems instead of trying to reform the existing one, because I don't believe the old systems are reformable.
The comments were bad but have you seen what white people wrote. Always find a way to attack white people and make them the worse. Is he self hating or a fellow white
this, name and shame when they request censorship is how this can start disintergrating.
As someone else pointed out what was done to gab getting more public view will not go well for them, they make these moves because they think they are faceless suits, the person they extort usual reciving all the heat for their descion.
they dont want people looking at how much power and influence they have because then they stand to loose it.
Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech
While I appreciate your attempt to be within the rules, you are still advocating violence, so it still needs to be removed. Using "[rule 2]" doesn't change the substance of what you're arguing.
You sound exactly like the guy being rightfully made fun of in the OP, and this thread. Hordes of comments by nons making threatening comments against White people is "free speech". But, if a single White person responds in kind, even to the smallest degree, all of a sudden it's bad, it's hate speech, and it must be censored.
Traitors deserve death.
That kind of speech is allowed under the 1st Amendment, and it's repeatedly been defended by the Supreme Court.
I want to see the names and faces of these payment people.
Hey, cool it with the...
I wonder if GSG & Wells have improved their cybersecurity since they allowed the donor lists of the 2022 trucker convoy to be hacked.
Which allowed leftists to use the leaked name & address data to create searchable Google street maps of the homes where supporters lived to harass them, allowed employers like local police forces to suspend their workers on administrative leave for making small donations and had government-backed journalist apparatchiks using the lists to identify supporters in the press to name & shame while publishing their info for "comment".
If you can't tell from the blatant hypocrisy that Jacob Wells (of GiveSendGo) displayed between Karmelo Anthony's fundraiser and Shiloh Hendrix's fundraiser (that u/FrozeInFear posted), then it's obvious that GSG wasn't hacked, they were "hacked". Meaning, they gave out that info for lefties to doxx and hurt the truckers, and merely used the excuse of "hacking" as plausible deniability. Hypocrites are ipso facto liars. Stop trusting known liars.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gp_96D1XIAERhPM.jpg?name=orig
It's not just opsec or trannifa spergs or useful idiot mercs we need to be worried about. Nation states will correctly characterise donors, particularly international ones, as the most politically energised and unapologetic voices against anti-whiteness. Payment processors will be eager to give this info to glowies - maybe they won't even need to be asked.
$500k is great and I hope it hits 7 figures, not least because a larger crowd gives better anonymity. I hope Americans really knock it out of the park. But for European donors I'm not sure the numbers are big enough yet to overwhelm the potential honeytrap. It's the only reason I haven't donated as it stands.
Hendrix should have cashed out and opened a new campaign for a higher amount. The longer it's up, the more likely it gets pulled.
"Jesus follower' he calls himself. Is he a subversive CIA agent, a jew or a retarded self hating White guy?
I'll bet the last option.
Unfortunately, most Americans are so bloated with propaganda that they don't even need to be paid to do the CIAs work.
it only became a problem when Whites tribalized
"Nope. Cry harder." - His actual response.
I didn't check out Shiloh's page much, but everything seemed very pro-white, with some anti-black stuff.
Meanwhile the Karmelo page was nonstop hate and cheering on of violence.
Vastly different tones.
Neither should be censored, in my opinion, but the conflation especially is a bit much. Having a positive opinion on white people is not the same as cheering on murder and stoking racial hatred.
Having the anti-white hatred and racism out in the open was good. Many more will get red-pilled from this.
Yeah okay… “sought to fuel division” lol….No, those comments on give send go are a show of support for all Whites who stand up to the anti-White hate being fueled by corporate media and government in the non-White community. Non-Whites are naturally jealous of us as it is, then jews take that jealousy and couple it with a barrage of propaganda telling nons that they’re all struggling because Whites hold them back, and what you get is millions of nons who cheer on the destruction of White people. Whites thought they could be nice enough to gain the respect of nons, and now we know it doesn’t matter what we say or do, nons will hate us regardless so we are taking our own side, at least in cases when Whites merely stand up to nons who commit crimes against us.….those comments are not fueling division, they’re fueling White cohesion, and that’s the real crime here.
This guy is such a fucking snake.
Talking out of both sides of his mouth, repeatedly.
As an example, he repeatedly defended the free speech of the violently anti-white tribalist blacks in the Karmelo Anthony thing:
and
And many more.
Then he essentially told white people to go cry.
But what really shows the duplicity is the following pair of interactions:
Someone points out that Karmelo's fundraiser was up for three weeks, and Shiloh Hendrix's was up for a day, before comments were shut down.
Jacob Wells doesn't dispute the point, and seems to perhaps even confirm this, when he says the following:
Yet when someone else says...
And Wells just responses "nice try but nope."
If it wasn't done in reaction to Shiloh (absurd, since it was specifically mentioned and targeted), why does how many people were viewing her fundraiser matter?
I get he's caught in a tough spot, but he's being a lying shitbag.
So the TL;DR is that they capped both at a half million, they will deliver the money raised, but they disabled the comment sections of each fundraiser, because they didn't like what they saw.
People have been pushed and pushed and pushed. They finally get to vent some of that frustration, and donate money to literally put money where their mouth is, and they're told to pound sand.
They want a race war so fucking bad. But those in charge have already chosen a winner in the war, and there's still people like this just letting it happen.
Which is a lie. Fucker was bragging about free speech a week ago. He said he didn't like all the tribal blacks calling for violence against white people and shit, but that it was protected speech, and he's let lowly whites make disgusting comments too.
Then as soon as white start saying pro-white stuff (most of it, from what little I saw to be fair, wasn't even anti-black) he shuts it down.
It's bullshit. The Karmelo page that he actively defended (and was right to do so; again, I actually believe in free speech) was so much worse than Shiloh's page.
The conflation between pro-white and violent anti-white sentiment is a slap in the face too. They're not the same. This guy is being a shit. I'm glad he is keeping an open platform for fundraising, so far, which is the primary point, but he's still being a retard.
Yids are definitely unhappy that this many White goyim dared to donate to a White woman who stood up to a NIGGER and had to pay the nigger-tax
hell i'm thinking they might actually pull away their visa unless they fully kosherize the site with blatant anti-White bias