She actually hated it lmao she's crying during this scene.
What actually makes it bad is that she gaslights herself into believing its a good thing to good raped by a savage warlord and turned into his sex sausage, and cries over him when he dies later.
Willing, but not eager. Since it's not exactly something she has much choice in. She was assured that it was going to happen anyway, unless she killed herself or something.
What she does is use the opportunity to take control of the situation instead of being a passive and helpless victim (after getting advice from someone, I forget who).
It's a very... fucky scenario, with a rather gray resolution. I keep going back and forth over whether or not to find it cringe or not. Like, actual victims in extreme scenarios have to make all kinds of psychological hurdles just to deal with the trauma they've experienced.
So in that regard, the resolution here is interesting. But then you just know that there's a fucky fetishization of the scenario itself by some people.
Because that scene in the books wasn't rape. Neither was the bit with Jaime and Cersei after Joffrey died. The showrunners were just that shit at their jobs.
No, they only hated it when it happened to Sansa in season 5. Even though technically, it honestly shouldn't have been rape. By Westerosi law, Ramsey was not only completely within his rights to have sex with his bride after marrying her, it was expected and considered both his and her duty to start producing heirs the night of the marriage. Sansa honestly should have known that was going to happen when she agreed to Littlefinger's (completely boneheaded) decision to have them wed. It wasn't her first marriage after all, and unlike the one with Tyrion, this was something she had a choice in and ultimately agreed to, meaning she already consented to it.
No, fans hated the Season 1 scene it wasn't true to the source material. The scene in the book is completely consensual and HBO turned it into a rape scene for cheap shock value.
To be fair, it's as statutory rape as sex can get. Book Dany was younger, and it's a decision of desperation, not romance. No solid reason HBO couldn't have left the nuance in, and let viewers come to their own conclusions. Same industry that downgraded Glmli to slapstick foil in the 2nd and 3rd movies, because they utterly look down their audience.
Worse than that. The Dothraki are savages. They make the Westerosi look like the fucking Federation. If she had told him "no," being dragged to death probably would have been the best outcome for her. There's a non-zero chance they would have given her the same fate as Mr. Hands.
GoT was ruined by feminism, but no one called it out at the time. All of the (clearly feminist) bad story choices were just deemed “stupid” and “incompetent”.
Top is fine because:
get with the program, bigot
She actually hated it lmao she's crying during this scene.
What actually makes it bad is that she gaslights herself into believing its a good thing to good raped by a savage warlord and turned into his sex sausage, and cries over him when he dies later.
This is presented as a good thing.
Certified woman moment.
In the books she's willing.
Willing, but not eager. Since it's not exactly something she has much choice in. She was assured that it was going to happen anyway, unless she killed herself or something.
What she does is use the opportunity to take control of the situation instead of being a passive and helpless victim (after getting advice from someone, I forget who).
It's a very... fucky scenario, with a rather gray resolution. I keep going back and forth over whether or not to find it cringe or not. Like, actual victims in extreme scenarios have to make all kinds of psychological hurdles just to deal with the trauma they've experienced.
So in that regard, the resolution here is interesting. But then you just know that there's a fucky fetishization of the scenario itself by some people.
Eh, they hated the Game of Thrones rape too. It was controversial at the time.
Because that scene in the books wasn't rape. Neither was the bit with Jaime and Cersei after Joffrey died. The showrunners were just that shit at their jobs.
No, they only hated it when it happened to Sansa in season 5. Even though technically, it honestly shouldn't have been rape. By Westerosi law, Ramsey was not only completely within his rights to have sex with his bride after marrying her, it was expected and considered both his and her duty to start producing heirs the night of the marriage. Sansa honestly should have known that was going to happen when she agreed to Littlefinger's (completely boneheaded) decision to have them wed. It wasn't her first marriage after all, and unlike the one with Tyrion, this was something she had a choice in and ultimately agreed to, meaning she already consented to it.
No, fans hated the Season 1 scene it wasn't true to the source material. The scene in the book is completely consensual and HBO turned it into a rape scene for cheap shock value.
To be fair, it's as statutory rape as sex can get. Book Dany was younger, and it's a decision of desperation, not romance. No solid reason HBO couldn't have left the nuance in, and let viewers come to their own conclusions. Same industry that downgraded Glmli to slapstick foil in the 2nd and 3rd movies, because they utterly look down their audience.
Wasn't one of the plot points in the book that marriage without consummation resulted in no marriage taking place?
No, it was not.
The GOT scene isn't a rape scene. It's consensual sex.
It's been a while but IIRC she consented in the same way I consent to taxes.
Paying taxes is patriotic! God bless Israel! God bless Ukraine!
Worse than that. The Dothraki are savages. They make the Westerosi look like the fucking Federation. If she had told him "no," being dragged to death probably would have been the best outcome for her. There's a non-zero chance they would have given her the same fate as Mr. Hands.
This is probably one of the most accurate ways to explain the entire setup. Not to mention a lot easier on the brain.
It's not presented that way and she doesn't see it that way.
And the other is a work of fiction with animated pixels.
Now about those smutt romance novels for women full of ''ravishings''...
I'm not consooming either of those. ''Think of the wimmins'' used to ban things = feminist comissars crown themselves as moral arbiters of everything.
Yeah because nothing says consent like crying during sex lmao
Did you read the books, or watch the show? The sex is consensual but painful to Dany
American feminism robbed GOT of the guise of historical authenticity. It makes for terrible television.
GoT was ruined by feminism, but no one called it out at the time. All of the (clearly feminist) bad story choices were just deemed “stupid” and “incompetent”.
I might have made it all the way through the first episode. I don't remember. I've always wondered about it's popularity.
In both cases, the soyjak sees himself as the girl.
I hate both