Kal-el left a destroyed planet. I'm not exactly sure on specific case law with immigration, but I'm willing to bet you can't send him back to a place that is physically gone. Also Supes is a net plus, he's not sending money back to Krypton and taking jobs from Americans.
well, he was found as an abandoned kid. All the kents would have to do is adopt him and he would become a naturalised citizen since it's assumed most abandoned kids in america are americans
And in the real world every nation on the planet would be clamouring to claim him for their own if that were the case, as Irredeemable sort of did when several different nations were stumbling over themselves to try and appease the Superman character of that story. Sure he was a mass murdering psychopath so it was all being done to try and placate him, but it's still far more likely a situation when the concept of owning the most powerful being on the planet comes up.
Even if Superman truly thought this, he would change his tune when he sees that most of the illegal aliens coming across the border are cartels, drug runners, human traffickers, junkies, murderers, and unskilled layabouts looking to take advantage of American social programs paid for by (often exorbitant) tax dollars taken from law-abiding citizens.
And even if Superman truly thought all these aliens were just poor migrant workers seeking a better life in America, that should raise the question of how terrible the places they come from have to be for them to be willing to trek thousands of miles just to reach it, and maybe he should do something about them.
Unfortunately, both situations violate the narrative that we're not supposed to question.
it's easy to be generous with other people's money, superman could have easily destroyed all the cartels and build up Mexico so they don't feel the need to leave their country, oh what's that? now superman says he can't do it because he's an alien and don't want to interfere with local geopolitics?
That's a terrible law though. Just dump your kid in the US. Wait for it to be given citizenship. Then join because you're its parents.
Or do what hordes of africans and arabs in Europe do and simply claim you're underage even though you have a thick full beard and more wrinkles than a 30 year old.
He was adopted by the Kents and they filed the paperwork for his citizenship. Although in 2010 he renounced it due to worthless writers. Too bad they don’t have him go after human traffickers crossing the border
Not every origin even bothered with paperwork or made things more documented as they are now. Back during his original years someone dumping a baby on the doorstep of a well off family wasn't unheard of so claiming that happened with Clark wouldn't raise anywhere near as many eyebrows as it would now.
Its a show of how far we've devolved as a society, that back in the day a dumped off baby was a rarity and you could trust society enough to know that it was likely for good reason and everyone would come together to help.
You can't even begin to trust that now, for a plethora of reasons. I'd be calling the cops before I even picked the little thing up now out of paranoia.
I've had retards argue with me that the comics never showed the Kents filing the paperwork to adopt him so he was illegal. Nvm that he has a birth cert and SSN otherwise he wouldn't be able to work for the planet
Depends heavily on the time of writing whether all those things took place. The closer to get to modern time the more likely it happens and even some of the live action adaptions have put different spins on how and why it took place, like with the Kents asking Lionel Luther for a favour expediting the adoption process in Smallville in return for saving Lex during the meteor shower that brought Clark to Earth in the first place in the show.
As mentioned in my other comment some version just didn't bother because they would just claim someone else left the baby on their door in the middle of the night which happened in the earlier parts of the 1900s and far fewer people gave a shit about looking into how legit that might have been, nor were busybody types to then hound someone over the paperwork. Ironically that kind of busybodying is one of the key traits often written into Lois Lane and why she ends up figuring out who Clark is in many stories because she's one of the few people who bothers to do what would have been highly unlikely in the original stories. Nowadays it's mandated bureaucratic handling that in hindsight makes stories like Superman seem less believable when the entire point of older stories is that it was literally a different time and people behaved very differently, not a perpetual progressive state always thinking about the $CurrentThing, which often ends up turning fantasy stories into shit as it did when Superman comics tried to do climate change plots.
If it's anything related to the 80s John Byrne run they don't know the story as supes was "born" in Kansas. His birthing pod that was turned into an escape pod didn't finish until after he landed. Then the Kent's found him and everyone knows the rest.
The Superman of the 80s 90s and 2000s is literally American BORN and raised.
There's at least one version of the Superman origin story where it explicitly shows the Kents secretly dropping Kal-El off at an orphanage and then going to adopt him the next day.
I mainly read comics from early 00s and prior and stopped reading new dc and marvel in 21. I’m hazy on the new stuff but I remember that and then dropping “and the American way”
And other fairytales say kisses cure comas and wolves will dress up as old women to ambush little girls. It's seventh tier retardation to take fairytales and expect them to apply directly to reality.
But 'well ackshually-ing' that retard on technicalities in his own fairytale is also funny.
It’s important to note, that Superman isn’t real and thus negates their argument. If Superman was real there’d be jackshit we can do about him unless the Government somehow knew his weaknesses. Living in a comic book world would be terrifying.
Also, what's the message here? Let in illegals, or else Superman is going to rip your spine out?
Superman's mere existence is always a lethal threat. Being near him is like being near a lion you were 'assured' was safe. Yeah, maybe, or maybe it could flip out and rip you apart and there's nothing you can do about it.
When Superman says something like that, it's an outright threat, because if you say 'no' to him, does anyone think he's going to back down? He'll tear your legs off and laser your family to death for defying him.
Kal-el left a destroyed planet. I'm not exactly sure on specific case law with immigration, but I'm willing to bet you can't send him back to a place that is physically gone. Also Supes is a net plus, he's not sending money back to Krypton and taking jobs from Americans.
well, he was found as an abandoned kid. All the kents would have to do is adopt him and he would become a naturalised citizen since it's assumed most abandoned kids in america are americans
he'd be a refugee with no planet to return to, thus stateless, and granted citizenship by the country that accepted him
And in the real world every nation on the planet would be clamouring to claim him for their own if that were the case, as Irredeemable sort of did when several different nations were stumbling over themselves to try and appease the Superman character of that story. Sure he was a mass murdering psychopath so it was all being done to try and placate him, but it's still far more likely a situation when the concept of owning the most powerful being on the planet comes up.
IIRC, there’s a Superman comic that states that nearly every country on Earth has given him citizenship.
Even if Superman truly thought this, he would change his tune when he sees that most of the illegal aliens coming across the border are cartels, drug runners, human traffickers, junkies, murderers, and unskilled layabouts looking to take advantage of American social programs paid for by (often exorbitant) tax dollars taken from law-abiding citizens.
And even if Superman truly thought all these aliens were just poor migrant workers seeking a better life in America, that should raise the question of how terrible the places they come from have to be for them to be willing to trek thousands of miles just to reach it, and maybe he should do something about them.
Unfortunately, both situations violate the narrative that we're not supposed to question.
it's easy to be generous with other people's money, superman could have easily destroyed all the cartels and build up Mexico so they don't feel the need to leave their country, oh what's that? now superman says he can't do it because he's an alien and don't want to interfere with local geopolitics?
At the risk of stating the obvious, doesn't this just show that they use comics for political propaganda?
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As they have since before WW2? Wow, shocking.
That's a terrible law though. Just dump your kid in the US. Wait for it to be given citizenship. Then join because you're its parents.
Or do what hordes of africans and arabs in Europe do and simply claim you're underage even though you have a thick full beard and more wrinkles than a 30 year old.
it's really only for infants. And if proof comes up that you're not born in america before age 21, the citizenship can be revoked
The whole point is that you have no idea what nationality an abandoned baby is. It's not like there aren't already blacks, latinos, asians in America
They had Superman renounce his American citizenship around 2010.
Not joking.
i mean it would be a pointless gesture unless he renounced it as clark kent
He was adopted by the Kents and they filed the paperwork for his citizenship. Although in 2010 he renounced it due to worthless writers. Too bad they don’t have him go after human traffickers crossing the border
Not every origin even bothered with paperwork or made things more documented as they are now. Back during his original years someone dumping a baby on the doorstep of a well off family wasn't unheard of so claiming that happened with Clark wouldn't raise anywhere near as many eyebrows as it would now.
Exactly. A shame how current writers are incapable of leaving their political views out of it
Its a show of how far we've devolved as a society, that back in the day a dumped off baby was a rarity and you could trust society enough to know that it was likely for good reason and everyone would come together to help.
You can't even begin to trust that now, for a plethora of reasons. I'd be calling the cops before I even picked the little thing up now out of paranoia.
I've had retards argue with me that the comics never showed the Kents filing the paperwork to adopt him so he was illegal. Nvm that he has a birth cert and SSN otherwise he wouldn't be able to work for the planet
Depends heavily on the time of writing whether all those things took place. The closer to get to modern time the more likely it happens and even some of the live action adaptions have put different spins on how and why it took place, like with the Kents asking Lionel Luther for a favour expediting the adoption process in Smallville in return for saving Lex during the meteor shower that brought Clark to Earth in the first place in the show.
As mentioned in my other comment some version just didn't bother because they would just claim someone else left the baby on their door in the middle of the night which happened in the earlier parts of the 1900s and far fewer people gave a shit about looking into how legit that might have been, nor were busybody types to then hound someone over the paperwork. Ironically that kind of busybodying is one of the key traits often written into Lois Lane and why she ends up figuring out who Clark is in many stories because she's one of the few people who bothers to do what would have been highly unlikely in the original stories. Nowadays it's mandated bureaucratic handling that in hindsight makes stories like Superman seem less believable when the entire point of older stories is that it was literally a different time and people behaved very differently, not a perpetual progressive state always thinking about the $CurrentThing, which often ends up turning fantasy stories into shit as it did when Superman comics tried to do climate change plots.
If it's anything related to the 80s John Byrne run they don't know the story as supes was "born" in Kansas. His birthing pod that was turned into an escape pod didn't finish until after he landed. Then the Kent's found him and everyone knows the rest.
The Superman of the 80s 90s and 2000s is literally American BORN and raised.
There's at least one version of the Superman origin story where it explicitly shows the Kents secretly dropping Kal-El off at an orphanage and then going to adopt him the next day.
lol, not even during the first "Orange man bad" years. Thanks Obama.
Clark Kent renounced his citizenship?
He did not.
So ''Superman'' ( nickname and public persona ) virtue-signaled. Hahaha these writers are pathetic.
I mainly read comics from early 00s and prior and stopped reading new dc and marvel in 21. I’m hazy on the new stuff but I remember that and then dropping “and the American way”
And other fairytales say kisses cure comas and wolves will dress up as old women to ambush little girls. It's seventh tier retardation to take fairytales and expect them to apply directly to reality.
But 'well ackshually-ing' that retard on technicalities in his own fairytale is also funny.
I'm not opposed to sending him back if that's what it takes to expel all the foreigners.
Woke subverters lie and manipulate to destroy White people. As usual.
It’s important to note, that Superman isn’t real and thus negates their argument. If Superman was real there’d be jackshit we can do about him unless the Government somehow knew his weaknesses. Living in a comic book world would be terrifying.
Has Superman done anything useful recently? All I can recall is dying, snapping Zod's neck and being a gay Jesus allegory.
Then Superman can GTFO too.
LMAO superman writers casually glossing over human trafficking to score points with woke
Also, what's the message here? Let in illegals, or else Superman is going to rip your spine out?
Superman's mere existence is always a lethal threat. Being near him is like being near a lion you were 'assured' was safe. Yeah, maybe, or maybe it could flip out and rip you apart and there's nothing you can do about it.
When Superman says something like that, it's an outright threat, because if you say 'no' to him, does anyone think he's going to back down? He'll tear your legs off and laser your family to death for defying him.
Superman is easily capable of improving the quality of life in their countries of origin to the point where they wouldn't want to leave.
He chooses not to. Instead of building infrastructure at super speed, he larps as a reporter.
Sure, fictionally we can take them all in. Go write a comic about it.