The thing is, most of those things will work for most guys. Sure, you'll never become 10/10 Chad who can pull any women. But you'll be able to garner some success with a decent number as long as you aren't incredibly deformed.
The lacking discussion is that most guys who are in the category of needing that advice are mentally unfit to handle the pressures of going through it.
The "just lift" community believes that by doing so you will simply become more confident in yourself both through looking better and the dopamine rush lifting brings, which once again is true most of the time but not a guarantee. And for those it doesn't work for, their mental instability will shine through like a beacon to women.
Someone with an extremely broken mind for whatever reason isn't going to become shredded enough to not give girls "the irk" (go ask the guys on /fit/), and often times that is what needs the most work first.
However, the opposite problem is most guys going into these "Self help" forums are also completely unrealistic. Your comment I think shows it best where a 1/10 wants to become a 10/10, which is a level of optimism that will guarantee failure for anyone. The marketer will of course over sell, but the buyer is responsible for himself.
If a guy doesn't have some level of natural affinity for it, he won't ever reach 10/10 status. But any guy short of the 0.01% of truly deformed or mentally ill monsters can reach some success with those tactics, even that is going from 100/100 rejections to 95/100.
Some irony is that Aydin Paladin is blessed with terrible genetics.
She is cursed with "put the screen down" fugliness.
She definitely has a voice for radio.
I listened to her audio podcast with Spoon for awhile, then was really taken aback when I saw her physical appearance on Lotus Eaters. It was very distracting.
I dunno about taking it that far. She's got a store brand Carrie-Ann Moss kinda face, some classic dorky mannerisms, and edgy teenage bad taste in hair style on top.
But considering the deluge of hideous pincushion landwhales faces out there, I wouldn't say it's any less than average.
Oh the horror! A guy wants to take a woman on a date! Granted she sounds like they type who think a a guy trying to flirt with her is rape. Or as mentioned before the guy was unattractive
Wait was this meant to be a 'haha point at laugh at this guy leaving this note!' post by Rona as call me a softie (which rarely is said about me) but that's just cute.
Given the event, he could be a really introverted guy so this note was his way of trying to reach put, possibly date. If you're a girl and you don't at least give him a shot, your future is alone, in a dingy apartment, with lots of cats and box wine..
Look at the context, rona didn't get the note, her friend did. So I'm guessing her friend got the note, found it amusing, then gave it to rona so they could both point and laugh at the ugly, pathetic loser dude who dared give her a note. Then rona just had to post it online to share the funnies with the world.
And you're right, the guy is probably introverted and shy so this kind of public rejection is gonna sting extra hard. Hopefully he can walk away stronger and more resilient and doesn't let this kind of thing affect him too much or at all.
"Rona likes compilers", OK you fucking tryhard. Never known a software engineer in my life that "likes compilers". That's like saying I like electricity.
I think people might be misconstruing her a bit. She's at least open to this being potentially cute. In the comments, in response to others, she admitted it might be "rizz," that "some of the coolest couples...met through these types of environment," and defended the "LOL" as "Lots Of Love."
I think she was just using the skull emoji as shock or something. Or for attention, or something. But she doesn't seem super hateful about the whole thing. Ah, others are saying it means "I'm dead," i.e. 'I find this humorous.' It's a zoomer thing, I guess.
Haha, that's actually pretty funny. Someone asked "What does the 💀 mean?" Her response? "skull"
Anyway, she doesn't seem super hateful. At worst she's amused, and I think that's fine.
Anyone who says "LOL" means anything other than Lots Of Laughs or maybe depending on context League Of Legends is lying. It don't mean Lots of Love, and it don't mean Lucifer Our Lord. Skull emojii is not a positive emojii, the MOST positive (and zoomer) thing it can mean is "I died laughing", which, again, is is line with LOL meaning Lots of Laughs.
None of the comments nor the replies seem to be negative, just saying. Plus if it is to believe, the commenter says she has a BF. Much ado about nothing
The font choice is odd. If you're a male computer programmer, and I've known MANY in my time, your "printed" writing is almost always pretty damn close to Courier New, Ariel, or Times New Roman, (or, in a couple cases, nigh-illegible chicken scratches) not... this extra-seriffy Comic Sans.
And who the hell signs off on a note with "LOL"? This is also written by someone completely computer illiterate. Which, to be fair, means they could benefit from computer hacking lessons, but really basic ones like "this is a mouse and keyboard".
Occam's razor suggests you use the fewest assumptions. I am not going to assume this woman got a questionably-formatted note from a friend, whom I would then need to assume ALSO got it from yet another friend. I will simply assume she wrote this then uploaded it directly.
All flirting is creepy as fuck if its not attractive, either as the receiver or as an outsider. Its like watching a sitcom without the laugh track, it just doesn't work without that "soul."
Horse shit. That's a woman's writing.
Yep 100%
Agreed.
Yeah no man has that middle ground of nice enough but not printed quality.
Guess it was an ugly guy who gave her the note. It be cute from a handsome guy. Sorry ugly guy
And with online dating a lot of below average women get a ton of attention. I’m average looking at best so I know what you mean
The thing is, most of those things will work for most guys. Sure, you'll never become 10/10 Chad who can pull any women. But you'll be able to garner some success with a decent number as long as you aren't incredibly deformed.
The lacking discussion is that most guys who are in the category of needing that advice are mentally unfit to handle the pressures of going through it.
The "just lift" community believes that by doing so you will simply become more confident in yourself both through looking better and the dopamine rush lifting brings, which once again is true most of the time but not a guarantee. And for those it doesn't work for, their mental instability will shine through like a beacon to women.
Someone with an extremely broken mind for whatever reason isn't going to become shredded enough to not give girls "the irk" (go ask the guys on /fit/), and often times that is what needs the most work first.
However, the opposite problem is most guys going into these "Self help" forums are also completely unrealistic. Your comment I think shows it best where a 1/10 wants to become a 10/10, which is a level of optimism that will guarantee failure for anyone. The marketer will of course over sell, but the buyer is responsible for himself.
If a guy doesn't have some level of natural affinity for it, he won't ever reach 10/10 status. But any guy short of the 0.01% of truly deformed or mentally ill monsters can reach some success with those tactics, even that is going from 100/100 rejections to 95/100.
Some irony is that Aydin Paladin is blessed with terrible genetics.
She is cursed with "put the screen down" fugliness.
She definitely has a voice for radio.
I listened to her audio podcast with Spoon for awhile, then was really taken aback when I saw her physical appearance on Lotus Eaters. It was very distracting.
I say this with love, as I do enjoy her content.
But damn, girl !
I dunno about taking it that far. She's got a store brand Carrie-Ann Moss kinda face, some classic dorky mannerisms, and edgy teenage bad taste in hair style on top.
But considering the deluge of hideous pincushion landwhales faces out there, I wouldn't say it's any less than average.
To each their own.
I can't intellectualize my revulsion.
And as I said, I'm not a hater.
I appreciate her quirkiness, her ideology and her academic chops.
Maybe I was fooled by only hearing her voice and her cutesy avatar for so long.
Very true. Why I’m working on losing a lot of weight
I think you're referring to THIS phenomenon.
What I was thinking.
Oh the horror! A guy wants to take a woman on a date! Granted she sounds like they type who think a a guy trying to flirt with her is rape. Or as mentioned before the guy was unattractive
Unattractive men need room to flirt or civilization will collapse back into barbarism.
I agree. I say this as an unattractive man. I was just referencing how a guys looks determines if he is a “creep” or not.
Wait was this meant to be a 'haha point at laugh at this guy leaving this note!' post by Rona as call me a softie (which rarely is said about me) but that's just cute.
Given the event, he could be a really introverted guy so this note was his way of trying to reach put, possibly date. If you're a girl and you don't at least give him a shot, your future is alone, in a dingy apartment, with lots of cats and box wine..
Look at the context, rona didn't get the note, her friend did. So I'm guessing her friend got the note, found it amusing, then gave it to rona so they could both point and laugh at the
ugly, pathetic loserdude who dared give her a note. Then rona just had to post it online to share the funnies with the world.And you're right, the guy is probably introverted and shy so this kind of public rejection is gonna sting extra hard. Hopefully he can walk away stronger and more resilient and doesn't let this kind of thing affect him too much or at all.
So you're saying, there's two bitches in this post not just one?
Rona played dumb in her own comments when called out about her shitty behavior.
And mostly hid behind the defense that her "friend" had a bf.
And people wonder why birth rates continue to collapse...
Why she got to leak an analog DM like that? Damn.
Women gain status and inflate their worth by turning down, shaming and mocking men they perceive as being lower status than them.
They both prove that they are desired and receiving attention while also being choosy and chaste.
YOunG GUys AreN't apPRoachINg WoMaN AND talKinG tO THEm aNd askIng Them Out. WOmen MOSt aFFECtED.
"Rona likes compilers", OK you fucking tryhard. Never known a software engineer in my life that "likes compilers". That's like saying I like electricity.
I'd bet most people hate compilers, even compiler developers.
I think people might be misconstruing her a bit. She's at least open to this being potentially cute. In the comments, in response to others, she admitted it might be "rizz," that "some of the coolest couples...met through these types of environment," and defended the "LOL" as "Lots Of Love."
I think she was just using the skull emoji as shock or something. Or for attention, or something. But she doesn't seem super hateful about the whole thing. Ah, others are saying it means "I'm dead," i.e. 'I find this humorous.' It's a zoomer thing, I guess.
Haha, that's actually pretty funny. Someone asked "What does the 💀 mean?" Her response? "skull"
Anyway, she doesn't seem super hateful. At worst she's amused, and I think that's fine.
She's playing dumb in the comments only because she caught some flak.
The skull seems to imply "I'm dead" from cringe or embark from the guy. "I'm mortified".
That’s the problem with writing in
hieroglyphicsemoji… words are more expressive to convey meaning.💀
🦀🦀🦀
Wait, wrong meme.
💀💀💀
Skull explicitly means died laughing. Everyone saying otherwise is spinning.
She's being cruel because she enjoys being cruel.
She's backpedaling.
Anyone who says "LOL" means anything other than Lots Of Laughs or maybe depending on context League Of Legends is lying. It don't mean Lots of Love, and it don't mean Lucifer Our Lord. Skull emojii is not a positive emojii, the MOST positive (and zoomer) thing it can mean is "I died laughing", which, again, is is line with LOL meaning Lots of Laughs.
Hack a thon indeed.
''Thon'' is Parisian slang for an extremely ugly woman.
The handwriting by itself wouldn't be enough to cry fake, but it's coincidentally on a pink post-it too, so I'm going to say fake.
None of the comments nor the replies seem to be negative, just saying. Plus if it is to believe, the commenter says she has a BF. Much ado about nothing
The font choice is odd. If you're a male computer programmer, and I've known MANY in my time, your "printed" writing is almost always pretty damn close to Courier New, Ariel, or Times New Roman, (or, in a couple cases, nigh-illegible chicken scratches) not... this extra-seriffy Comic Sans.
And who the hell signs off on a note with "LOL"? This is also written by someone completely computer illiterate. Which, to be fair, means they could benefit from computer hacking lessons, but really basic ones like "this is a mouse and keyboard".
Occam's razor suggests you use the fewest assumptions. I am not going to assume this woman got a questionably-formatted note from a friend, whom I would then need to assume ALSO got it from yet another friend. I will simply assume she wrote this then uploaded it directly.
It looks like a woman's writing. She most likely wrote it herself.
All flirting is creepy as fuck if its not attractive, either as the receiver or as an outsider. Its like watching a sitcom without the laugh track, it just doesn't work without that "soul."
I thought it was cute. (but like others said probably written by a woman) What's creepy about it though? The cringe joke about a hacking lesson?
C'mon that would be cute if it was done by a 10 year old.
The note is cringe no matter how you slice it...
What are you in middle school passing notes?Grow up and be a man. This is kid shit.
A man's note would include 3 words and the cell number
This is female attention seekery
If this was posted out of malice, it's mean... but it's an Asian girl named "Rona." She's probably had a hard couple years. LOL.
sounds like the guy should have manned up and talked to her himself.