WW2 was huge, they seriously couldn't have found anything besides a story about damn mailmen?
If they wanted to tell stories from different perspectives during ww2, they'd be better off making a movie about the North African campaign or the Japanese invasion of SE Asia. Plenty of non Whites fought in both those theaters, especially for the latter.
Hell, look up Lieutenant Adnan who served in British Malaya against the Japanese. I'm sure his last stand would make for a great movie if done right.
But who am I kidding, these studios only want to tell stories that they can twist into going "look, evil whitey".
In a completely neutral setting, this is a decent idea just because its unique while being tied to something bigger. We have a lot of WW2 war movies that cover nearly every genre that have been done better than they ever could, so making that would just be pissing in the ocean. This could at least raise an eyebrow at first glance and that's huge in terms of marketing.
But we know its not a neutral decision and was chosen specifically because of the black and women portion, if that even actually happened, and is going to entirely be some nonsense anti-racism story where black women somehow suffered worse than the men getting shot at.
But we know its not a neutral decision and was chosen specifically because of the black and women portion, if that even actually happened
And, furthermore, if it actually happened, I no longer believe these people to tell the truth about anything, so I'm assuming that this story specifically did not happen.
So their attempt to expose us to 'history,' if it is in fact history, has me making the assumption that they couldn't find anything worth writing about if this was the lie they had to tell.
If a woman claims a guy raped/abused her? I now 100% assume she is trying to manipulate me and/or destroy him, and he now has my support. And it takes considerable evidence to change that.
Any form of "bigotry?" You are either making it up or did something to deserve it.
On and on. In all of these various discussions, they've made me just reject anything they say outright and need a preponderances of evidence to shake that.
They could have done the WAASPs/WAACs, they could have done the female members of the OSS/SOE, but it's CURRENT_YEAR, so it's gotta be blak wammans, my guy.
They could have just done a reboot of the Tuskegee Airmen, Netflix style: The entire show would be about white men trying to ground them and sabotage their planes. Then as the war in Europe is concluding, the airmen fly to Hitler's bunker just before he suicides. After busting down his door, they say "Black. Lives. Matter." and shoot him with his own gun.
This earns them a visit to the White House. When they enter the Oval Office, they see a black man sitting at the desk with the President standing next to him. The captain says "But, you're not the President!" to which the man replies "The President answers to me. You don't really think a white man would have let you finish off Hitler, do you?" Then everyone in the room raises their fist and shouts "Wakanda forever!"
I was trying to think of a old movie about ww2 I believe. Its centered around a draftee from appalachia. I remember the opening has a quote something like "The scariest men in a war are the quiet nice ones."
I couldnt figure it out, im sure if I remember the name but searching up the premise gave me nothing.
My point being, how many women in ANY of the wars, including modern ones, have been awarded for taking out a entire platoon of enemies to save their squad? Are there even any?
I dont think I have ever heard of a woman jumping on a grenade either? Maybe that was just war propaganda about men anyway?
I seen a comment in r/canada the other day where someone said something along the lines of "i dont care what you are as long as you can push buttons". Implying that the only thing to modern war is staring at a screen.
You still need boots on the ground and it might be a good idea not to alienate what has been typically the main driving force of that. Young white men.
I was trying to think of a old movie about ww2 I believe. Its centered around a draftee from appalachia. I remember the opening has a quote something like "The scariest men in a war are the quiet nice ones."
Are you sure it was WW2? Because Sgt. York was from Appalachia, but he was a WW1 hero
Netflix is just wealth distribution in relation to shows. Good, popular, slightly less woke shows that do well get lots of money. Money from that gets siphoned to fund these kinda shows.. either woke or no one cares.
Who is this show made for?? Pretty sure black males wont watch this. Black females below age 40 probably dont wanna watch this shit either.
hollywood is a scam. the same people control the production, the box office, and all of the press, in particular the "entertainment" press, which cannot possibly be profitable without massive buyins from the very people they "cover."
roll back history to 2016 and then think about what netflix did and how it all played out. it effectively just got swallowed into the system. you fight it at first, then they infiltrate your staff, then they subvert your content, then you become just another compromised hollywood studio.
The target audience is middle aged leftist women. It’s not a demographic that can carry an entire slate of television shows, but that’s where the streaming scam comes in. It is, as you say, a redistribution scheme that disconnects media products from the appraisals of the free market place.
At least the cover art has them relatively fit instead of the usual extremely obese black grrlboss with the ghetto attitude every woke Hollywood exec is obsessed over these days.
The actual story is they showed up at the ass end of the war and sorted mail while troops were going home. They definitely did something useful, but not anything movie worthy. I did however find out about the WW2 vmail system looking into the story. The US would take 16mm captures of letters and reprint them at the destination, saved 98% of cargo space in the middle of a war where room was sacred and was utilized on over a billion pieces of mail.
I'm sure they lived through hell while all the men, or what was left of them, were coming back from the war after losing friends, family, body parts, and sanity. Women suffered so much they had to actually work because all the men were off dying, the selfish bastards! 🙄
It made it easier to redact the mail, too. My grandfather still had some redacted letters from home where she talked about the neighbors farm yield and local news. This carried on for a while as I remember. Maybe through the Korean conflict?
I never thought to ask my grandfather about letters from my grandmother. I was too busy asking about battle details lol but they would’ve been cool to see
They keep shooting themselves in the foot. There probably was a semi-interesting story to tell here, but no one will ever be able to look at it or hear it without thinking of this steaming pile of garbage from Netflix.
I'm a casual student of WWII history, and knew of this unit from long before the movie was made in a gee-whiz trivia sense; i.e.: "did you know there was a black female unit that handled the mail in the ETO?"
So, I think people are right that there might have been enough there to make a movie about and oddball WWII topic al la Monuments Men, it's just that being made by Tyler Perry and being made current day means it's got to be hammering The Message and I'm just not willing to waste my time watching that nonsense.
Eh, the setting often has little to do with the quality of the movie. If they tell a good story, I would watch a movie about a mailman or garbage man, or whatever.
For example, The Best Years of Our Lives is one of the best films about World War II, and it doesn't have any combat at all. It's about three servicemen returning home and each of their different difficulties with reintegrating into civilian life. It was an academy award winner and was ahead of its time back when men just didn't talk about the baggage they brought home from war.
In contrast, the previews for this had snippets like "these uniforms aren't made for our curvy negro bodies" and "the white man doesn't think we can do this and wants us to fail". It sounds like 100% modern-day dreck.
Anything to avoid bringing Booker T Washington up.
Anyways.. as a former USPS employee.. no shit: the fucking mail sort is the most important part of the operation. None of it would work without it. That junk mail you get? The only reason we took it is because it was pre-sorted. If it wasn't it'd be rejected.
Out of curiosity, what does "pre-sorted" mean? Does the originator deliver it to the postal service already divided up for the different carrier routes?
WW2 was huge, they seriously couldn't have found anything besides a story about damn mailmen?
If they wanted to tell stories from different perspectives during ww2, they'd be better off making a movie about the North African campaign or the Japanese invasion of SE Asia. Plenty of non Whites fought in both those theaters, especially for the latter.
Hell, look up Lieutenant Adnan who served in British Malaya against the Japanese. I'm sure his last stand would make for a great movie if done right.
But who am I kidding, these studios only want to tell stories that they can twist into going "look, evil whitey".
In a completely neutral setting, this is a decent idea just because its unique while being tied to something bigger. We have a lot of WW2 war movies that cover nearly every genre that have been done better than they ever could, so making that would just be pissing in the ocean. This could at least raise an eyebrow at first glance and that's huge in terms of marketing.
But we know its not a neutral decision and was chosen specifically because of the black and women portion, if that even actually happened, and is going to entirely be some nonsense anti-racism story where black women somehow suffered worse than the men getting shot at.
And, furthermore, if it actually happened, I no longer believe these people to tell the truth about anything, so I'm assuming that this story specifically did not happen.
So their attempt to expose us to 'history,' if it is in fact history, has me making the assumption that they couldn't find anything worth writing about if this was the lie they had to tell.
That's how I feel about most "claims" now.
If a woman claims a guy raped/abused her? I now 100% assume she is trying to manipulate me and/or destroy him, and he now has my support. And it takes considerable evidence to change that.
Any form of "bigotry?" You are either making it up or did something to deserve it.
On and on. In all of these various discussions, they've made me just reject anything they say outright and need a preponderances of evidence to shake that.
With respect to naggers, if I may say that, complaining is endless. I call bullshit on all of it. They are looking for a payout. Esp. the lawyers.
They could have done the WAASPs/WAACs, they could have done the female members of the OSS/SOE, but it's CURRENT_YEAR, so it's gotta be blak wammans, my guy.
They could have just done a reboot of the Tuskegee Airmen, Netflix style: The entire show would be about white men trying to ground them and sabotage their planes. Then as the war in Europe is concluding, the airmen fly to Hitler's bunker just before he suicides. After busting down his door, they say "Black. Lives. Matter." and shoot him with his own gun.
This earns them a visit to the White House. When they enter the Oval Office, they see a black man sitting at the desk with the President standing next to him. The captain says "But, you're not the President!" to which the man replies "The President answers to me. You don't really think a white man would have let you finish off Hitler, do you?" Then everyone in the room raises their fist and shouts "Wakanda forever!"
Finally, MY history will be told
That's ridiculous, the Wakanda Forever salute is that arm crossing thing.
I was trying to think of a old movie about ww2 I believe. Its centered around a draftee from appalachia. I remember the opening has a quote something like "The scariest men in a war are the quiet nice ones."
I couldnt figure it out, im sure if I remember the name but searching up the premise gave me nothing.
My point being, how many women in ANY of the wars, including modern ones, have been awarded for taking out a entire platoon of enemies to save their squad? Are there even any?
I dont think I have ever heard of a woman jumping on a grenade either? Maybe that was just war propaganda about men anyway?
I seen a comment in r/canada the other day where someone said something along the lines of "i dont care what you are as long as you can push buttons". Implying that the only thing to modern war is staring at a screen.
You still need boots on the ground and it might be a good idea not to alienate what has been typically the main driving force of that. Young white men.
No. At least three of them even survived doing it - John Carmichael, Jack Lucas and Kyle Carpenter.
Are you sure it was WW2? Because Sgt. York was from Appalachia, but he was a WW1 hero
Just read some of the MoH citations.
Or watch the Chapman MoH action caught on video in Afghanistan. https://youtu.be/3oKMjTqdTYo?si=LhflLThEoRuGepe2
lol.. civil rights wasn't passed until 20 years after the war.. there was only one black infantry division in the whole fuggin war.
anyways.. guess how they did?
Netflix is just wealth distribution in relation to shows. Good, popular, slightly less woke shows that do well get lots of money. Money from that gets siphoned to fund these kinda shows.. either woke or no one cares.
Who is this show made for?? Pretty sure black males wont watch this. Black females below age 40 probably dont wanna watch this shit either.
hollywood is a scam. the same people control the production, the box office, and all of the press, in particular the "entertainment" press, which cannot possibly be profitable without massive buyins from the very people they "cover."
roll back history to 2016 and then think about what netflix did and how it all played out. it effectively just got swallowed into the system. you fight it at first, then they infiltrate your staff, then they subvert your content, then you become just another compromised hollywood studio.
Blackrock.
The target audience is middle aged leftist women. It’s not a demographic that can carry an entire slate of television shows, but that’s where the streaming scam comes in. It is, as you say, a redistribution scheme that disconnects media products from the appraisals of the free market place.
Not trying to be racist here...
There are attractive black women. Occasionally.
At least based on the cover poster though, they didn't feel the need to include any of them in this movie.
Attractive black women are almost always so because some other race has mixed in to make them less black looking.
☝️ Verified True
At least the cover art has them relatively fit instead of the usual extremely obese black grrlboss with the ghetto attitude every woke Hollywood exec is obsessed over these days.
We need a WW3 where the straight white men don't save leftists this time.
Don't save? Well I had something else in mind but sure I suppose.
It’s Netflix. I’d be interested to see the actual story vs the Netflix take on things.
The actual story is they showed up at the ass end of the war and sorted mail while troops were going home. They definitely did something useful, but not anything movie worthy. I did however find out about the WW2 vmail system looking into the story. The US would take 16mm captures of letters and reprint them at the destination, saved 98% of cargo space in the middle of a war where room was sacred and was utilized on over a billion pieces of mail.
Fuck you, asshole. Guaranteed those strong women bled for their country ... from paper cuts.
They deserve all the medals, dammit. Fucking bigots like you make me sick! 😡
I'm sure they lived through hell while all the men, or what was left of them, were coming back from the war after losing friends, family, body parts, and sanity. Women suffered so much they had to actually work because all the men were off dying, the selfish bastards! 🙄
Every morning, female news editors give themselves a pep talk in the mirror: "Remember, no matter what happens, you make it about you!"
Olena Zelenska, is that you?
That I didn’t know.
It made it easier to redact the mail, too. My grandfather still had some redacted letters from home where she talked about the neighbors farm yield and local news. This carried on for a while as I remember. Maybe through the Korean conflict?
I never thought to ask my grandfather about letters from my grandmother. I was too busy asking about battle details lol but they would’ve been cool to see
There was no racist commander
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni65025603/
Black women were so irrelevant to winning WW2 that the best story Netflix could find about them was "we sorted mail".
And they still had to lie to pretend it was something other than clerical work after the war was already over.
"Madea Goes Postal" should have been the title lmao
I saw that shit laughed and scrolled next.
Props for you for actually reading the synopsis.
They keep shooting themselves in the foot. There probably was a semi-interesting story to tell here, but no one will ever be able to look at it or hear it without thinking of this steaming pile of garbage from Netflix.
unironically that is exactly what those men fought for
At least it isn't a race-swap of history. I'd say that's gotta count for something, but it really is the bare minimum.
They did invent the 'racist general' though. Apparently the man in charge of this unit was actually supportive, but that doesn't fit The Narrative.
I heard about that. A very Netflix move
“Hey, that’s my mail!”
Is Madea going to make a cameo?
I'm a casual student of WWII history, and knew of this unit from long before the movie was made in a gee-whiz trivia sense; i.e.: "did you know there was a black female unit that handled the mail in the ETO?"
So, I think people are right that there might have been enough there to make a movie about and oddball WWII topic al la Monuments Men, it's just that being made by Tyler Perry and being made current day means it's got to be hammering The Message and I'm just not willing to waste my time watching that nonsense.
Eh, the setting often has little to do with the quality of the movie. If they tell a good story, I would watch a movie about a mailman or garbage man, or whatever.
For example, The Best Years of Our Lives is one of the best films about World War II, and it doesn't have any combat at all. It's about three servicemen returning home and each of their different difficulties with reintegrating into civilian life. It was an academy award winner and was ahead of its time back when men just didn't talk about the baggage they brought home from war.
In contrast, the previews for this had snippets like "these uniforms aren't made for our curvy negro bodies" and "the white man doesn't think we can do this and wants us to fail". It sounds like 100% modern-day dreck.
Anything to avoid bringing Booker T Washington up.
Anyways.. as a former USPS employee.. no shit: the fucking mail sort is the most important part of the operation. None of it would work without it. That junk mail you get? The only reason we took it is because it was pre-sorted. If it wasn't it'd be rejected.
Out of curiosity, what does "pre-sorted" mean? Does the originator deliver it to the postal service already divided up for the different carrier routes?
Exactly. If you've ever seen "CAR RT PRESORT" on a piece of mail, it means exactly that, "carrier route presort."