Sony entertainment branch once again proving how retarded their management team is as maybe zoomer attention span is down because western entertainment is so shit. I know plenty of zoomers that can easily watch anime even watching entire series in a day.
This just opens the door to competitions if they try to fuck with studios than do their own originals again. There's too much artistic respect in Japan that if they try it, the original author will probably call them out and the fanbase of whatever they chopped up and shortened will boycott them.
Also, how sad is it apparently 24 minutes is too long for some people?!
That's just depressing. As someone who's definitely done my fair share of tech, and can feel that my attention span isn't what it was...I can still handle 24 minutes, much longer in fact. I don't want anime to be even shorter. Absolutely retarded.
They need to stop doing porn and TikTok, holy shit. And stop therapy. And stop medication. And stop seed oils and other crap food. And stop "public" (state) education.
And they need fathers, and to go to the gym.
There, I solved everything. And, yes, I am of course kidding, and know it's sadly not that easy. What I laid out are good steps, though.
I’d argue it’s more of a scapegoat rather than an actual problem. There are retarded people with piss-poor attention spans, but the problem is that the content sucks rather than a wide-spread epidemic.
The majority of the stuff I watch on YouTube is in excess of 30 minutes, my preferred run time is about 1 hour per video. I always found episode length in anime far too short and full of far too much padding to fill out the 20 odd minutes it already comprises. At least modern anime anyway. Shit made back in the 90s was actually good and didn't feel like mostly stalling tactics (only half stalling tactics lol).
Its me, I'm the guy who can't watch full episodes anymore because its too long.
But in my defense, its because subs require actual full attention (my Japanese from pure hearing isn't what it used to be) and I prefer my watching be background to other more productive tasks (or shitposting here). And I'm far, far from a zoomer.
My wife is the opposite and will come home from work and shotgun an entire season in one glorious sitting and then complain about it being over.
Its me, I'm the guy who can't watch full episodes anymore because its too long.
Dang, sorry to hear that.
Part of it sounds like just mindset, at least; I don't put on anime/movies/whatever in the background. They always get my at least almost full attention. If I'm going to watch entertainment, I want to be taking it all in.
It is. Like, I can watch a full episode if I put my mind to it without issue. But the entire time I'll be thinking "man I wish I was doing something with my hands right now" and get distracted.
Its why almost all the media I consume is comedy, because it manages to keep my attention fully if its actually funny. So Shimoneta some years back was easy to consume because it was nonstop laughter.
But rather than complain about the industry not catering to me, I just consume absurd sums of manga on my phone due to having large amounts of downtime during my days.
Its why almost all the media I consume is comedy, because it manages to keep my attention fully if its actually funny.
I listened to an hour and a half of Norm Macdonald yesterday.
It was one of his better jokes.
But rather than complain about the industry not catering to me...
But have you considered being an insufferable twat and ruining it for everyone else, instead of being a reasonable person and finding what works for you and what you actually enjoy?!
hi dive also seems to only have low quality horny shows and pedo shows. I subscribe to it to watch call of the night when it came out, and I've hardly found anything worth watching since.
they've got the original Legend of The Galactic Hero though, which is nice
The joke on them. I never read the manga of shows that end abruptly because I don't want to spoil it just in case they get around to another season a decade later.
At least Call of the night actually ended on something that could be considered an ending. Other shows like My Daughter Left the Nest and Returned an S-Rank Adventurer set up plot threads that will never be resolved.
As do I. A lot. That was a really well put together site, with some features I still haven't found on any replacements. Using HiAnime at the moment, as it's the best one I found, but it's not Aniwave.
Same. It's decent, but Aniwave was spectacular. I would have actually paid for Aniwave, but the real paid sites are both woke garbage and have shit interfaces that fail on the most basic of levels.
Re:Zero was so ludicrously popular that there was an entire advertising campaign for the Rem confession episode specifically. If it's even still a fraction as popular, advertisers were probably pit fighting for the ad time.
You can dunk on social media addicts, but perhaps this will stimulate the anime industry to finally remove all the filler they're so accustomed to injecting in their shitty shows.
I have trouble paying attention to that garbage as well. All the hissy fits and temper tantrums. All the endless monologues and still-motion fight scenes.
The anime industry needed to be reformed two decades ago. Zero sympathy.
It "reformed" like this already, shows used to have much longer runs. It's declined significantly from the early 2000s and 90s. You would just make it worse. Two to three decades ago was around the time some of the all time greats were coming out.
Attack on titan is only a decade old. Demon slayer is even newer. Both of them are adaptations of manga, not anime originals. Neither is exceptional. They're both flash in the pan shows, not enduring quality.
So much manga/anime has the same problem as the Star Wars prequels. It's made by autists who are good at concepts and lore and worldbuilding, but are dogshit at characterization, dialogue, and to some extent even plot.
Get some competent dialogue writers so that the concepts involved aren't overshadowed by insufferable screeching.
Force them to watch Yu-Gi-Oh! or Dragon Ball Z. That should fix their attention spans. Oh and also Bleach, to show them how good they have it now that continuing series parallel to the manga aren't the standard anymore.
I find something funny about making a 3 minute video with a talking troon cartoon vampire in the corner to complain about the weakening attention span of the next generation. Like 20 years ago this would have been a 10,000 word, well written article in a magazine, and 20 years before that a whole book
To be fair, people have been complaining about pacing in broadcast anime since Dragonball Z. If you're not trying to fill out a half hour timeslot you don't need to stretch the manga out like they have in the past.
I watch anime on 1.5x speed, generally. For my reading speed with subtitles, that just flows a bit better for me to read, admire the scene, new dialogue as a loop.
If it's a good anime that actually has things going on while people talk, I bring it down to 1x speed, gotta pay respects, and gotta watch the show actively while I read the show.
If it's trash isekai that I'm just watching to burn time, I will put it as high as 2x speed.
But note the qualifier there. I'm not some impatient zoomer with no attention span... Trash isekai. The worse the quality, the less my attention for it.
And I want Chruncyroll to fuck off and die.
We can't always get what we want.
Sony entertainment branch once again proving how retarded their management team is as maybe zoomer attention span is down because western entertainment is so shit. I know plenty of zoomers that can easily watch anime even watching entire series in a day.
This just opens the door to competitions if they try to fuck with studios than do their own originals again. There's too much artistic respect in Japan that if they try it, the original author will probably call them out and the fanbase of whatever they chopped up and shortened will boycott them.
Also, how sad is it apparently 24 minutes is too long for some people?!
That's just depressing. As someone who's definitely done my fair share of tech, and can feel that my attention span isn't what it was...I can still handle 24 minutes, much longer in fact. I don't want anime to be even shorter. Absolutely retarded.
The modern generation is basically retarded and incapable of long attention spans, as a general rule. They're also super emotionally fragile.
I'd say at least 60% of the population is geared this way at this point.
They need to stop doing porn and TikTok, holy shit. And stop therapy. And stop medication. And stop seed oils and other crap food. And stop "public" (state) education.
And they need fathers, and to go to the gym.
There, I solved everything. And, yes, I am of course kidding, and know it's sadly not that easy. What I laid out are good steps, though.
Getting rid of social media alone would be huge. Touching grass (unironically) is extremely good for our health.
It really does boil down to too much time on computers and the Internet. The human mind and body aren't suited for them still.
I’d argue it’s more of a scapegoat rather than an actual problem. There are retarded people with piss-poor attention spans, but the problem is that the content sucks rather than a wide-spread epidemic.
24 minutes is about the amount of time I have to eat a lunch. I've been lucky if I could watch a 45 minute show recently.
The majority of the stuff I watch on YouTube is in excess of 30 minutes, my preferred run time is about 1 hour per video. I always found episode length in anime far too short and full of far too much padding to fill out the 20 odd minutes it already comprises. At least modern anime anyway. Shit made back in the 90s was actually good and didn't feel like mostly stalling tactics (only half stalling tactics lol).
Its me, I'm the guy who can't watch full episodes anymore because its too long.
But in my defense, its because subs require actual full attention (my Japanese from pure hearing isn't what it used to be) and I prefer my watching be background to other more productive tasks (or shitposting here). And I'm far, far from a zoomer.
My wife is the opposite and will come home from work and shotgun an entire season in one glorious sitting and then complain about it being over.
Dang, sorry to hear that.
Part of it sounds like just mindset, at least; I don't put on anime/movies/whatever in the background. They always get my at least almost full attention. If I'm going to watch entertainment, I want to be taking it all in.
It is. Like, I can watch a full episode if I put my mind to it without issue. But the entire time I'll be thinking "man I wish I was doing something with my hands right now" and get distracted.
Its why almost all the media I consume is comedy, because it manages to keep my attention fully if its actually funny. So Shimoneta some years back was easy to consume because it was nonstop laughter.
But rather than complain about the industry not catering to me, I just consume absurd sums of manga on my phone due to having large amounts of downtime during my days.
I listened to an hour and a half of Norm Macdonald yesterday.
It was one of his better jokes.
But have you considered being an insufferable twat and ruining it for everyone else, instead of being a reasonable person and finding what works for you and what you actually enjoy?!
Well, there it is.
Crunchyroll started as a pirate site, and now it'll be used as a reason to pirate due to boneheaded ideas like that.
Well done.
always has been
No one gives a shit about HiDive because lolcowlizer Katrina Leonoudakis works there.
hi dive also seems to only have low quality horny shows and pedo shows. I subscribe to it to watch call of the night when it came out, and I've hardly found anything worth watching since.
they've got the original Legend of The Galactic Hero though, which is nice
They've already done enough of that to the format by largely switching to 12-13 episode single season shoveling over the last couple decades.
what's worse is these 12 to 13 episodes single seasons can't even bother to finish their own story before not getting greenlit for a second season.
The entire point of those is just to be a large advertisement for the manga itself and milk a chunk of extra merchandising.
Call of the Night for example probably tripled its net worth despite the anime barely even scratching its actual story.
The joke on them. I never read the manga of shows that end abruptly because I don't want to spoil it just in case they get around to another season a decade later.
Real chads are already reading the manga before its even in consideration for an anime to begin with.
At least Call of the night actually ended on something that could be considered an ending. Other shows like My Daughter Left the Nest and Returned an S-Rank Adventurer set up plot threads that will never be resolved.
I miss Aniwave.
As do I. A lot. That was a really well put together site, with some features I still haven't found on any replacements. Using HiAnime at the moment, as it's the best one I found, but it's not Aniwave.
Same. It's decent, but Aniwave was spectacular. I would have actually paid for Aniwave, but the real paid sites are both woke garbage and have shit interfaces that fail on the most basic of levels.
Too many business men view themselves as being greater than the people that actually make things they profit off of.
Is that a fucking vtuber? I'm not fucking watching that trash.
The last episodes of Re:Zero season 2 were each 29 minutes 30 seconds.
I have no idea how advertisers agreed to that. One commercial for the entire half-hour?
Re:Zero was so ludicrously popular that there was an entire advertising campaign for the Rem confession episode specifically. If it's even still a fraction as popular, advertisers were probably pit fighting for the ad time.
And then kept her out of all of season 2, because "fuck short-term popularity, I have a story to tell."
I like that. And I say that as a Rem fan.
You can dunk on social media addicts, but perhaps this will stimulate the anime industry to finally remove all the filler they're so accustomed to injecting in their shitty shows.
I have trouble paying attention to that garbage as well. All the hissy fits and temper tantrums. All the endless monologues and still-motion fight scenes.
The anime industry needed to be reformed two decades ago. Zero sympathy.
It "reformed" like this already, shows used to have much longer runs. It's declined significantly from the early 2000s and 90s. You would just make it worse. Two to three decades ago was around the time some of the all time greats were coming out.
Exceptions proving the rule.
The most popular shows are firmly entrenched in the rule.
Attack On Titan = animated trash.
Demon Slayer = serialized adolescent histrionics.
Attack on titan is only a decade old. Demon slayer is even newer. Both of them are adaptations of manga, not anime originals. Neither is exceptional. They're both flash in the pan shows, not enduring quality.
Popularity and quality are not the same.
If it has a rage-crying adolescent throwing a temper tantrum while soliloquizing for five minutes straight. It needs to burn.
I will not stand by this Evangelion slander!
I will. Evangelion was a dogshit show that everyone thought was cool because they watched it when they were 14 and retarded.
rofl
The other day, I was talking to a guy who saw the show in his 50s.
He's 78 now.
He still adores it.
So much manga/anime has the same problem as the Star Wars prequels. It's made by autists who are good at concepts and lore and worldbuilding, but are dogshit at characterization, dialogue, and to some extent even plot.
Get some competent dialogue writers so that the concepts involved aren't overshadowed by insufferable screeching.
Force them to watch Yu-Gi-Oh! or Dragon Ball Z. That should fix their attention spans. Oh and also Bleach, to show them how good they have it now that continuing series parallel to the manga aren't the standard anymore.
I find something funny about making a 3 minute video with a talking troon cartoon vampire in the corner to complain about the weakening attention span of the next generation. Like 20 years ago this would have been a 10,000 word, well written article in a magazine, and 20 years before that a whole book
To be fair, people have been complaining about pacing in broadcast anime since Dragonball Z. If you're not trying to fill out a half hour timeslot you don't need to stretch the manga out like they have in the past.
I watch anime on 1.5x speed, generally. For my reading speed with subtitles, that just flows a bit better for me to read, admire the scene, new dialogue as a loop.
If it's a good anime that actually has things going on while people talk, I bring it down to 1x speed, gotta pay respects, and gotta watch the show actively while I read the show.
If it's trash isekai that I'm just watching to burn time, I will put it as high as 2x speed.
But note the qualifier there. I'm not some impatient zoomer with no attention span... Trash isekai. The worse the quality, the less my attention for it.
IT'S 20 FUCKING MINUTES, HOW THE FUCK IS THAT TOO LONG!?