The main reason I'm posting this is because I actually learned that there is a name for the phenomenon of people getting used to something, and having to do more and more extreme variants of the same thing in order to get the same reaction they used to get out of the less extreme variant: hedonic adaptation.
It comes to mind because it just seems that a lot of people in Hollywood fall victim to this, and a lot of the rich as a whole as well, or that the wealthy simply see the common person as lesser, hence the 'own nothing and be happy' group, but to bring this back to Diddy, all the crazy sex parties, all the drugs, the power tripping, abuse, etc just makes it clear that something in Hollywood just makes the majority of people who live in it do insane shit, and the exceptions are for whatever reason I don't know.
I don't hate the rich, I hate rich people who are active detriments to society, ala the 'own nothing and be happy' group, or people like John Fisher, owner of the Oakland Athletics, who has failed in every endeavor he has taken in his entire life and the only reason he can exist the way he does is because his parents founded GAP and Old Navy, as examples.
Are leftists right about rich people as a whole? Not at all. I do however understand them from the perspective of 'the vast majority of wealthy individuals are completely out of touch with the common person and have no idea how they behave'. It seems like as an overall group, only athletes have any idea how the average person lives because without sports, they'd be the average person and many athletes are self-aware about that.
Being rich isn't inherently wrong. But being extremely rich is far more often about socio-economic leverage than individual work output, just because individual output can realistically only vary so far above the norm, but social leverage can just keep scaling up and up. The more broken and amoral behavior a society permits without punishment, then the better suited broken, amoral people are to applying that kind social leverage successfully. And because being a cunt is a highly heritable trait, the kids of the ones who make it tend to be better suited to applying both social and economic leverage.
Looking at the society we have, it's no surprise when the majority of the top 1% are turning out to be unchecked evil cunts.
Until people who cross the line to, say, ship in thousands of illegal Haitians and destroy a small town's community just to depress wages at the factory they own. Until they start mysteriously disappearing in the night and the whole town knowingly shrugs, like with Ken Rex McElroy, you can expect a disproportionate amount of rich people to be deeply deserving of scorn.
I think that’s what a lot of people here understand but also aren’t willing to say out loud because it feels leftist kinda even though it isn’t.
Being wealthy is a lot more about who you networked with and the connections you can make, as even though you make those connections because of the success of your business as an example, growing said business into for example, a chain of restaurants is way easier when you know people in the industry who can help.
Again, this doesn’t apply to small business owners, but for people like Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers and founder of Quicken Loans, Hal Steinbrenner, son of George Steinbrenner and more, they’re definitely riding their coattails on the people that came before them, albeit Dan Gilbert less so.
Yeah, as happily as I will shit on the average lefty lib shit for being retarded, I'm generally done with the established left/right false dichotomy. My only dichotomy is people who need to get fucked and people who don't.
So I'm not rooting for the second coming of Regan or some shit, I'm rooting for the return of the goddamn founding fathers and the society of honorable brotherhood, personal judgement and frontier justice that fostered them.
Just because the established lefties are accidentally mostly right about the current rich being scum, doesn't mean we have to pretend to not notice for fear of validating their other stupid ideas like all poor foreigners being noble saints or their stupid solutions like the poors should eat the rich. It's not rich Vs poors, it's honorable Vs dishonorable.
And it's far smarter for the honorable people to first start openly recognising each other and stonewalling out the dishonorable ones with equal or lesser power than it is for them to immediately throw themselves pointlessly at far more powerful people and let another generation of their dishonorable peers climb over them as they waste their efforts. The one advantage honorable group have over the dishonorable is the more powerful honorable will protect the less powerful, but the more powerful dishonorable people don't give a fuck about the less powerful ones, so they're easy pickings. Keep doing that long enough and entropy will do it's work and honorable behaviour will slowly start seeping up the hierarchy.
How does one find honorable people in the soviet union? haha
Leftists hate 'the rich' (who don't agree with them and bankroll antifa, etc) because they have money and think being rich is innately evil.
We hate people for being cunts, regardless of if they're rich or not.
lol, amazing.
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Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Because burning down one house and shooting one dog clearly wasn't enough.
Apple not falling far from the tree.
Considering the nature of this story it's quite clear how those attempts went.
I wonder how clear the sheriff made it that he was going to drive out of town.
I'm sure both those rifles suffered terrible boating accidents and were never found.
You could jokingly label this as the 46 potential witnesses all claiming they "dindu nothing", except everyone else also went along with it for the same reason. However many of the witnesses being at the bar may have also worked in their favour as any number of them could claim to have been UTI and therefore incapable of making a proper ID. Anyone dumb enough to try and challenge that would destroy any and all foundations for prosecuting drink drivers in the process.
The 70s and 80s were a different time.
Well, that whole thing was a ride.
Also, it's a very small town. 46 witnesses means...ten fucking percent of the town saw that shit and said...what? I didn't see anything.
Also, although the whole thing is terrible, I can't help but laugh that he burned down the same family's home, and shot their dog...twice. It's awful, and I'm glad the prick got murdered...but holy shit, that's amazing.
Not sure who did the dead, but whoever it was did the town a favor, and did what needed to be done. I agree with the witnesses, as described by local journalist: "he needed killing."
They hate the rich out of jealousy. They actually love celebrities because they are high school students who see them as having high social value.
Celebrities are the ones who extol the principles of the left and still do next to nothing to uphold those principles. It's the ideal position of flaunting things the masses will never have, and that includes proclaiming yourself a proud supporter of virtuous bullshit from a position of the exact type of privilege kids envy. Just a way of wearing your affiliation as a fashionable accessory, strengthening your own brand in the process.
How rich is enough? Rich enough to vote Democrat.
They hate the rich because they have money and see this as the reason they don't have money. That if you remove the rich somehow the world would be in this utopia where everyone has the same amount of money. They also consider themselves to not be rich no matter how much money they have .Bernie was against millionaires and billionaires until he became a millionaire and then he was just against billionaires.
I hate the rich because they use their fortunes to destroy my way of life and endanger the lives or my kids - Soros, Bill Gates, Larry Fink, Obama etc.
I also hate the rich who are degenerate pedophiles but I hate those that are pushing to normalize it even more.
Me and leftist hate the rich for different reasons.
Eat some meat your brain is rotting
I doubt it
And then, in a horrifying catch 22, a lot of athletes still lose their minds because they're not accustomed to being rich and famous. Or, if not their minds, at least their money.
Yep. And yet people wanna complain about how much money athletes make when you have to remember that the owners need to have enough money to pay these athletes in the first place. The guys who are barely in the league and aren’t that good relative to their peers are way close to me and you than they are to the owners, and yet many people refuse to see it.
Tickets aren’t going to magically decrease in price just because athletes get paid less
Athletes are the perfect representation of iq in action. Smart athletes invest and specialize their knowledge for a career beyond athletics, dumb athletes get roped into losing every penny thrown at them.
I think the psyops and handlers help with mind losing, haha
But is this not mostly due to not having sense when it comes to spending money? (the losing money part) which is due to not having that responsibility and how money works from a young age?
They also tend to lose that money very quickly because they don't know how to live in upper-class circles, and don't know the mechanisms of investment. Or they just engage in criminal corruption, because that's basically how they know how to make money.
That being said, I touchingly support having at least some "new money" constantly being injected to into the aristocracy to threaten it. Even if new money is shitty in new ways that old money was not.
Except the leftists LOVE P. Diddy. They LOVE George Soros. They LOVED Elon when they thought he was one of them.
All communist leaders are rich.
Poor people can be just as detrimental to society as rich people but they don't have the power to enforce their debauchery on a large scale.
Yea, leftists don't hate the rich. They hate the rich who aren't leftists.
I don't hate the rich. Personally, I like to be rich. What I hate is corruption, moral or otherwise.
Your way off OP.
The leftists that hate diddy and the like for his hedonism don't hate the hedonism. They are jealous and resentful that they can't indulge their hedonism.
As to why? Diddy is IMO obviously an epstein figure, that is a CIA puppet.
Leftists don't hate the rich because of all the vile, hedonistic or corrupt shit they do - they hate them because they want to be the rich. That's why they always project that defense of the rich on the right, calling us "temporarily embarassed millionaires". They hate the existence and accumulation of wealth that isn't theirs. They would engage in the same hedonistic bullshit as the ultra wealthy.
It's not inherently left wing to hate corporate parasites. Hating them for evil actions is not what leftists do though - they hate all wealthy people for having more than them.
I think you're missing why they hate the rich. It's not because the rich are the ones going more and more extreme to either get high off of power or status signal (which is why the elites partake in pedophilia); but it is because they can't do exactly that.
The Left hate the rich because they resent that they can't rape children with impunity.
Maybe this is just me having too much faith in humanity, but I don’t believe the only reasons hate the rich are jealousy and wanting to commit the atrocities that the elite class commits.
Look at the things they actually try to do to address the criminal elite. The leftists say "they shouldn't be allowed to have that much money, the government should take that money and give it to other people (them)".
The right says "pedophiles get the woodchipper, commit X crimes do Y time" etc.
The left is focused on the money, they don't care about the criminal or immoral behavior. Right wing people hate how the system allows the rich to get away with evil - leftists just hate that they can't also do it.
Have faith in humanity, not Leftists.
Having faith in humanity is why society is currently collapsing.
Man was a mistake.
Society is collapsing by direct attempts to destroy it in favor of a Socialist revolution. Man is neither inherently evil nor good. Leftists on the other hand, are pretty commonly evil.
They are also aggressively anti-human.
I think Ghetto Left vs. Rich Left; is basically just Progressive v. Neo-Liberal.
I've come to believe that it's not power which corrupts (with absolute power corrupting absolutely) but freedom... and absolute freedom which corrupts absolutely. Small distinction, I know, but this is my preferred point of view for this subject. It's because deep down everyone wants to "get away with it," (whatever "it" may be), and when they do they all subconsciously or literally ask themselves "Well, what else can I get away with?" This is my explanation for the Diddies and the Epsteins of the world - the absolute free. The people who've gained a place in the hierarchy wherein they can become a source of freedom... a dispenser of freedom and absolution for everyone who swears to provide them with certain services. Think your stereotypical military dictator/usurper, who allows his followers to do untold evils upon the population, so long as it keeps the citizens from rebelling against the leader. The rich people being corrupted by too much freedom makes them little different from the homeless guy who jerks off on a park bench, except (obviously) that they have a broader selection of degeneracies to indulge in.
It all just makes me wonder. Can a society collapse under the weight of too many traditions or restrictions? I know Hollywood has told us all about the evils of conservatives in stuff like Footloose or Starship Troopers. But, yeah, what about the opposite? Can too much freedom end a civilisation? When I look at the current world it seems like this is where we are going. That the degenerates among us will never accept limitations on how low they are willing to go, as well as take all of us down with them. I know when most people think of this word "freedom" they get misty eyed and start imagining bald eagles and motorcycles, but to me it has become a word that describes sordid, ill things. Civil liberties are a different matter.
It's simple. People and more so children need to know where "the line" is. To know where the line is we test it by putting our toe over it.
So you can have a stable society with draconian rules like in Islam where the line is clear and strictly enforced and they cut your toe off, or if the line is anchored to basic sanity like in Constitutional republics. Otherwise people testing the line end up pushing it further away and normalizing degeneracy and instability.
For instance in America we regularly enact censorship, but when we get so far from our 1st Amendment we look back at "shall not be infringed" and as a society (through the Supremes) say "oh we've gone way to far, those aren't exceptions anymore we're just censoring". Even yelling "fire" in a theater was banned, but then later allowed as free speech when they held it up next to the 1st. In contrast in Canada you have free speech 'if it's convenient', so they don't really have an anchor to save them from degeneracy.
Society needs this anchor, whether it's the Bill of Rights or a holy book (or both).
This is the biggest mistake a parent can make, not to have anchors aka reasons for their rules. You have to be able to explain to the kid and remind yourself "because you're disturbing other people" and things like that. Otherwise you'll end up like my lefty relatives that need some item but can't buy it because they have the kid with them and he'll thrown down (going on for years!). It's crazy.
So, I don't know if it's comparable but I live a pretty hedonistic lifestyle so I'm gonna weigh in on this aspect.
Last week I had a 4some with 3 girls. I just had like 5 people over at my place doing coke last night. I ended up having a 3some with two girls (2 of the same girls from the 4some last week). I routinely fuck escorts, go to strip clubs, fuck strippers, buy sugar babies, go to parties and do drugs and have sex. I've been to swingers clubs and swinger parties. I'm friends with a porn producer. I party with pornstars.
And a large reason I'm able to do all this hedonistic stuff is because I make good money.
Some of my guy friends always joke with me that whenever they hang out with me I'm always texting some girl, cause I usually am.
Here's the thing though, I honestly wish I could just have 1 girl in a monogamous relationship and not do all the stuff I'm doing but I can't. There just isn't a woman out there for me. I've hunted for a woman for well over a decade and haven't found one. I'm always looking of course and still haven't found anything. I can hook up with women because of the hedonism I chase and that's nice, I guess but it can never turn into anything more than that.
I wonder how many rich people that seem to be doing the hedonism thing are the same way as me? People with money can throw it around to try to get what they want in life but it doesn't mean they're actually getting what they want. There really is no fundamental difference between me and some poor guy who spends all his time playing video games and hasn't had sex or a girlfriend for a decade. I have money so I chase hedonistic pursuits and end up having 4somes but I'm really just as lonely and unfulfilled as the guy playing video games all day but I can throw money around to try to find the sort of fulfilment I'm looking for which ends up manifesting as hedonistic pursuits. I could stop pursuing them and then play video games all day but that's also just as unfulfilling to me and I've got money to blow so I just keep doing more and more things with my money to try to find what I want but I never find it no matter what I do; however, completely stopping trying to find it seems like the wrong idea because I still have this entirely misguided hope that maybe I'll eventually find what I'm looking for.
I can expand on this in a helpful way.
What you've observed is part of a greater trend, and that is...
Leftists in general (not always but in general) get upset over the correct effect but are absolutely terrible at diagnosing the correct CAUSE.
For example, they dislike poverty. However they get the cause of poverty wrong.
They dislike gun violence. No shit, lefties. But they get the cause of it wrong. They think it's the prevalence of guns as a whole. When in fact it might be prevalence of guns in certain racial groups.
And this goes for unemployment, inflation, wage stagnation, student debt, etc etc etc.
Imagine a kid smart enough to know that his hand got hurt but isn't smart enough to figure out that his hand hurts because he burned it touching the stove that his Republican friends told him repeatedly not to fucking touch.
That's leftists.
leftists don't hate the rich. See taylor swift. they love her.
leftist always hate people who are against their ideology.
They love rich people when they're instituting policies that directly or are perceived to harm Right-wingers. Maybe there's something in that.
Sorry, I couldn't find a non tiktok version. Apparently the black community knew about him, but was scared to talk about it.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFr14p1e/
This is very old news, people've been talking about Diddy since at least 2004, because that's when people found out he put the hit out on Tupac
To you yes, to most people, no. Sort of like knowing Sega is short for Service Games, which was founded by a white guy. If you're not in the circle, you don't even pay attention to knowing.
If fame means living for free off of everyone's backs in return for nothing while loudly denouncing my rights and voting for the state to steal from me, then I love celebrities about as much as I love black people.
The fun part is that they get to choose what fame means, and this is what they choose. Maybe there's even a bit of meta-freudian begging-the-question going on for their part; "when will plebs rise up and murder me in accordance to my own beliefs?" (And the other side of the coin: "if dont, then they deserve to be slaves and therefore my lifestyle is justified").
I take issue to celebrity hatred being cast as left wing in this thread. Any right winger who slobs on the nob is a cuck in right wing terms. I don't even know the left wing term. Bootlicker, maybe? What terminology do you hear most often, when a person is being rebuked for loving a celebrity out loud? See cuck, retard, redditor i.e... as it happens, the insults directed at celebrity lovers are the same as the insults directed to leftists in any case.
I haven't been keeping up with it at all, but I expect at least some out of the blue people just deciding that after all those tapes Diddy very likely has of people doing horrible things at his parties, that are now being viewed to see what's on them by feds, to just to come out pro Kamala Harris for no reason at all.