Larry Correia on the Right using cancel culture
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If the right were getting people fired for perfectly ordinary left-wing opinions supported by a majority of people, that might count as cancel culture. Like "I support single-payer health care" or "ban assault weapons [sic]".
Getting people fired for advocating the assassination of a president, whether it is right or wrong, is not 'cancel culture'. Who here would be surprised or outraged if a company fired someone for publicly advocating the killing of Joe Biden?
Nah, cancel culture was and should always mean "getting fired for legal behaviour outside of work". Unless you are committing criminal or damaging acts, you shouldn't have to worry about losing your livelihood. Even then, as they often do, criminals should be able to earn a living after time served.
Wrong. If your kids school teacher was advocating for lowering the age of consent to 8 outside of work, would you still send your kid there? Would any parent?
That's not cancel culture; that's consequences. Part of your duty- maybe even explicitly stated in the hiring contract- in being a teacher is to not be a danger to children. Being a pedo naturally falls into that category and is why background checks are required when working with children.
Admirable principles.
Regardless, if you called for assassination 100 years ago, I'm pretty sure you would be fired. That definition of cancel culture is so broad that it would cover every period, and that will not help distinguish the madness of the past 10 years or so.
But granting that this is cancel culture, these instances should still be sharply distinguished from what the radical left has engaged in, because they will use this to claim that 'we' are just as bad as they are.
100 years ago you would have been dragged out of your work place and beaten to death by a violent mob.
We're much more calm about our political disagreements than we used to be. The 90's was just a decade where the Left were still recovering from the absolute ass-blasting they got in the 80's as a result of the Days Of Rage campaign of the 70's, and the perpetual violence of the 1960's. Twenty years of constant Leftist violence and agitation ended with them pretending to be interested in lowering crime that they caused with the Warren court.
Simple; this isn't cancel culture, this is consequences for terrible behaviour. Labelling something cancel culture should be reserved for punishment over inconsequential transgressions.
AKSHULLY, it is not legal to promote violence against political opponents. It's not protected speech.
So yeah, we're getting people fired for ILLEGAL behavior outside of work lol. We're actually more in the right because we have the law backing us. Fighting words and direct calls for violence is not constitutionally protected speech. That's why some of these "but muh principles" fags don't get - 1) we're holding them to their standards and 2) our standards are actually pretty fucking low because we're simply telling them NOT to commit crimes or say speech that is not constitutionally protected.
Not all these statements are unlawful.
Exactly. We aren't engaging in cancel culture. They are facing consequences for violent speech.
Protecting the public (teachers, psychologists who do this shit) is not retribution.
"Cancel culture" is the attitude, not the actions, I'd say.
Hunting someone down and getting them fired is cancel culture.
Note I'm not even saying it's wrong for something this extreme, but I do think it is completely within the definition of "cancel culture."
Lady got hunted down IRL and then fired for things she'd said online, because people didn't like what she'd said. Again, to be clear, not defending her. I enjoyed the public shaming greatly, in fact.
Holding people accountable for their words and deeds is cancel culture.
Not holding people accountable for their words and deeds is commie faggotry.
By that definition, there's always been cancel culture though. If everything is X, then nothing is X.
And on what kind of scale is this going on, anyway? That #MeThree hysteria had unverified black lists spreading through companies.
You should be fired for both opinions, because both are heinously un-american. Tax slavery and forcible disarmament are about as traitorous as it gets.
That would mean that 80% of Americans should not have jobs.
Nah. In a scenario where we can actually punish leftists for the psychotic parts of their ideology, the normies would fall in line quick.
Normies don't have opinions. They say and do whatever to go with the flow.
Having worked with a few thousand people I'd say yeah about 80% don't deserve to have jobs.
That's not a political principle I'd run on, but what they do cannot be considered worthy of receiving a paycheck.
Pareto principle says that would be perfectly fine
I think they're the same concept but there's a difference in magnitude.
E.g., being fired for privately not calling a girl a boy versus getting fired for publicly wishing assassination upon someone and all that that implies.
That is such a huge difference in magnitude that it is a difference in quality.
Advocating assassination, of anyone, in my view is not legitimate discourse. I'm not just saying this because it's my ox that's being gored. I condemned the crazies who were making fun of Pelosi's husband.
Advocating assassination can never be put on the same plane as pointing out pure facts.
It is pretty dumb that some are thinking this is payback against the left, when all that's happened is they just crossed basic moral boundaries after a serious incident, to the point their own sheep are double-taking. Similar to the college kiddies getting their shit kicked in for not supporting Israel, or cheering Hamas, regardless of muddiness of the Oct 7th narrative.
Fucking commies getting fired should feel lucky. Had that bullet been two inches to the right, they wouldn't have to worry about their jobs. They'd have to worry about being pulled out of their homes in the middle of the night and left in small pile next to the Hate Has No Home Here sign on their lawn.
You don't think a successful assassination would change the equation? I guess I disagree.
I disagree. We've had several lone wolf right wing mass shooters over the past few years. Trump getting killed would 100% wake those fuckers up.
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Again, this kind of comment is closet to the line. I suppose it would be helpful to clarify that it is not that you that would remove people from their homes, but that you are describing retributive violence that could simply happen as a result. Is that correct?
I'm describing what happens during civil war, which the left seems fully committed to driving us toward, despite epic levels of patience by the right. Retribution is rarely proportional.
I believe in the Golden Rule.
I also believe turnabout is fair play.
Maybe if you believed in the Golden Rule, this turnabout wouldn't be happening in the first place.
And no one you "canceled" ever advocated for outright murder publicly.
Leftist cunts would say that being anti-troon would be the equivalent of advocating for the murder of trans kids.
Being pro police or anti-BLM would be the equivalent of advocating for the unjust murder of black people.
etc. etc. etc.
They already come up with the arbitrary definition to cancel you before they even cancel you.
Lucky for us "Don't promote the murder of your political opponents" is a far more concrete and less nebulous thing to advocate for, and guess what, it's not constitutionally protected speech and is actually ILLEGAL, so we have the moral high ground as well.
Hundred percent. Fuck em all. People who hate our values don't get the protection of our values. They get the protection, or lack thereof, of THEIR values.
It's not even "turnabout is fair play", the behavior standards are still WILDLY different. Gina Carano got fired and blacklisted for saying "my pronouns are beep/boop". These fuckers are out here cheering on a real life assassination attempt. These two things are not the same.
Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. Specifically Rule #4.
The Left could propose a formal truce on cancel culture in the form of a legal barrier for opinions expressed between private and work time.
They won't. They have been getting right-wing istophobes canceled and denied them jobs and tenured positions for several decades.
Going after a genius who played a major role in landing a probe on a freakin' comet because they didn't like his slightly provocative pinup shirt.
Getting a brilliant scientists kicked out of his university for A JOKE about hypothetically accidentally upsetting women who would cry on the job.
The list is endless.
That said, the Israel-first Republitards would NEVER allow such a truce, least people who criticize Israel and jews could keep their jobs.
Shitting-on, and discriminating against Whites is still totally okay to keep your job and positions though. Heck, there are university departments packed with people paied to do that.
Reminder that shirt was given to him by a female friend.
Reminder, that the shirt sucked and was unprofessional for the setting. Remove the screeching feminists and you would still have a guy in an unprofessional shirt lowering the standards for everyone.
On occasion over the years I will listen to Dr Laura Schlessinger (radio/XM/podcaster person). Leftists have tried to cancel her many, many times over the last 30 years.
One of her lines that I have always really enjoyed, usually in the context of mopey people feeling "guilty" about something is (paraphrase) "Don't use the word guilty to describe how you feel unless you done something illegal or immoral. You are allowed to have opinions, you are allowed to disappoint people, you are allowed to make other people upset, but guilt is reserved for illegality and immorality."
I think that's a good framework to use. The left loves to ignore the "immoral" part of that.
Saying you wish President Trump had been shot is not illegal and it is free speech. By the code of conduct that MOST of us live by, it is however, immoral.
You can say immoral things and practice immoral actions, but you may suffer the consequences. That's fair.
I personally don't care about the Tenacious D thing, the audience didn't care, and I wasn't giving them any money or listens anyway. But, I also think it's very fair that Jack Black bailed.
A functioning society needs standards that go beyond law. Christianity and a Eurocentric cultural standard played that role for many years in America. That's gone now, and we have moved into a low-trust and low-agreement society. The chickens have come home to roost for many people, and it's not pretty.
My level of tolerance for crap like that: "Sucks to be them, not my problem."
Yeah, I would say our rules for immorality are based off of basic natural law/freedom-based principles. Leave me alone, don't touch my shit, don't hurt me directly.
The left's definition of what's immoral is based off of far left idpol/feminist bullshittery whose ideology is not even a hundred years old and is steeped with anti-Western, anti-white, anti-REASON rhetoric.
Our "morals" are actually pretty simple and easy to follow. The left's isn't, and it shouldn't be followed because of how fucking corrupt and inconsistent it is, but normies follow it for fear of being ostracized. Almost like being a secular person in a country that is a theocracy back when the church had monopoly power over the monarchy.
I'm just glad we have a talking point we can beat them over the heads with it. We have both morality and the actual law by our side.
This wasn't our game or our rules, and we really did not want to play it with you, but YOU INSISTED.
Now you find out those you forced to play your game are not only really, really good at it, you now realize they are all ranked masters and you are not even playing the same game they are.
Without double standards, leftists would have no standards at all. Proving their hypocrisy won't convince a leftist to change their ways. It will however wake up ignorant people observing, so doing it publically is always good exercise.
"this is what you wanted. why aren't you happy?"
Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.