Nintendo Clamping Down Against Switch Emulation by Suing Yuzu.
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It's too late. There are three switch emulators of varying degrees of quality. If Yuzu doesn't run it, one of the other two will.
I will fully admit to making my own copies of games I own. Since ownership is no longer a thing to some companies, I don't care what they think about what I'm doing with the things I have bought.
Yeah with Nintendo trying to get more into the "online service" stuff with their payment packages as well as adding Denuvo into switch games, I'm sure they are trying to boost things up for what their next console is.
If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing.
Yuzu shat the bed by putting things behind a Patreon paywall. That's why Nintendo went gunning for them.
If you want Nintendo to come a-knockin', make money off of your piracy.
I think they hate money makers and non-money makers equally. It's just that, when you make money, you can find out who the money is going to and they have a target they can crush.
Why is emu illegal, though? Some kind of DMCA bullshit? That seemed like kind of what Nintendo was alluding to by saying "decryption."
Emulation isn't, but newer consoles require BIOS images to run, and those would be protected, unless they're custom. Maybe YUZU is distributing them?
Not all Switch games rely on the Switch's firmware/BIOS. However all(retail) of them are encrypted and you need to either find the keys elsewhere or dump them from your own Switch(assuming you can run homebrew on it)
Could be even if they're not distributing the BIOS binaries that distributing tools to actually use them constitutes enabling circumvention, which you can be sued for separately. Like the people that first enabled DVD playback on Linux.
I really don't know; that's why I was asking.
Officially, per the DMCA, if a company encrypts their product in any way shape, or form, that counts as a written notice of them refusing to allow you to copy the product. Now, this directly conflicts with the DMCA saying that any home user, library, or educational institution can make backup copies, but since when has the law ever broken in the favor of the normal person?
Yep, the DMCA pretty much says if the mfr employs encryption the mfr can set out any use scheme they want and you have to obey it. It's like a EULA that you don't have to sign. It's typical and telling of the US congress that the only time they'll actually pass legislation is to screw people over for the benefit of Big Media.
Honestly, applies in many similar situations. There's fair use to a certain extent, but profiting off of possible theft is guaranteeing yourself a lawsuit.
People are hypothesizing that the reason they’re doing this is because the upcoming Switch 2 is more akin to the jump from the GameCube to the Wii instead of the Wii to the Wii U or the Wii U to the Awitch, where Dolphin works with both the GameCube and the Wii, while the Wii and Wii U have different enough architectures to where there was a separate Wii U emulator.
What the lawsuit claims is that Yuzu enables piracy by existing, but they don’t have ground to stand on. In order to actually play games on Yuzu, you need to either dump your own Switch’s encryption keys, or find them somewhere, neither of which is legally Yuzu’s concern, and then do the same thing with the ROM and optional DLCs for the game you’d like to play as well.
Nintendo has lost multiple times in court over emulation, this is a scare tactic because Nintendo has money and the Yuzu devs don’t.
Apparently they also had some stuff behind a paywall. That's easily the quickest way to get blown up.
This was argued at SCOTUS 40 years ago in Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc. The ruling was that VCRs do not constitute copyright infringement simply because someone could play infringing content on them.
Since the emulator allows you to play backup copies of games you legally purchased, the fact that it could also be used for illegally copied games is irrelevant.
There ought to be extremely heavy fines levied on the petitioner in cases of vexatious litigation like this.
The hardware gimmicks are kind of the entire point of Nintendo’s consoles. The Switch is also the third highest selling console of all time at 140 million copies.
Nintendo consoles being the only way to legally and easily play Pokémon, Mario, etc will always make them money. The actual problem with the Switch is that the original Switch’s CPU and GPU was already outdated when it first launched in 2017.
The outdated hardware also keeps Nintendo's game development costs comparatively low, which means more profit for them.
And, of course, the free army of retard neckbeards that will defend anything they do
If the controllers were pc compatible, there's the hardware gimmick problem solved.
The switch pro (controller) is usable on PC, but I don't think its HD rumble, tilt controls, and NFC amiibo bullshit work.
Nah, their strategy is why they're the only real console competitor left in the space.
They seem to be doing just fine with their own thing. I can't think of another developer that has had consistently quality and innovative titles in every generation since the 80s.
Not every business needs to expand into every possible niche. Them not doing so allows for enterprising developers a take their basic ideas and expand on them to get a leg up. The "like {Zelda | Mario | Metroid | Pokemon | Smash Bros }" description is equivalent to millions in free marketing.
Ryujinx runs better for me
We've been over this hundreds of times before, at basically every new console, game, and emulator launch. Emulation and even piracy have proven to improve sales in the long run, as well as IP endurance in the marketplace.
Remember when they tried to shut down CherryRoms? That sure put at dent in emulation, lol.
How does the emulator work without joycons and by that matter is there hacked drivers to get joycons working on the PC for VR games?
What is missed that if Nintendo ever wins (and I hope they don't) then such a move will call into doubt the legality of reverse engineering and therefore the whole legacy PC ecosystem bar IBM produced systems to boot into Windows, Linux or MS-DOS if you want to go that far back. A whole lot of computers up until the introduction of UEFI will suddenly become illegal. It would be the biggest cutting off of their noses to spite their faces.
I'm still confused by Yuzu, never got it to work.
I never had trouble running it, but I stopped using it because it would randomly freeze my PC or crash the display driver, forcing me to restart my computer. Maybe the issue has been fixed, but I lost interest.
Yuzu? Who the fuck even uses that? Its obsolete and installed crap. I use other switch emulators and better ones for that matter. Nintendont are fucking morons, as usual. Idiot compant making idiot moves. Fucking slant eyed jackasses.
Of all the emulators, this one is the least surprising.
Games were playable and available on Switch emulators Day 1 or even earlier, something that they can cite as real and actual sales losses, unlike most emulators which are for no longer produced hardware.
And I wager the leak of Tears of the Kingdom was the final straw for them, because it was both available weeks in advance, but also convinced a lot of people not to buy their terrible expansion pack at full price.