Someone tell the left about how hot space is....
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That's not even how space temperatures work. The ISS has an issue with needing more coolant, not more heating.
The same logic of this meme-post can be applied to Earth. Global warming? The Earth is sitting in space soup of -270C, clearly it must be freezing there.
Well I'm not gonna stop them from keeping their eye off the ball. Keep dunking on a dead network.
Hey look , literally the one thing I'm a subject matter expert in besides eating pussy.
I've helped design modern solar fins for spacecraft. To put it mildly, every single part of this meme is wrong, and whoever wrote it should contact their high school about getting their money back.
Space is nothing like what they show in movies. For one, it doesn't suck you out like your mom on rent night.
Can you elaborate? I get the gist of the problem but would love a technical breakdown.
Vacuum is an insulator and the solar panels get raw, unfiltered energy from the sun. Whereas on Earth, there's shit like an atmosphere that blunts the power of the sun's radiation, on top of air rapidly cooling panels and slowing chemical reactions down to whatever you're trying to power via conduction.
Yeah, the issue for spacecraft generally isn't that they cannot keep warm.
It's that they cannot dump the heat they are already generating.
For instance, look at the picture. Note the huge radiator arrays? Those had to be lifted in to orbit at horrendous cost. That wasn't done by accident - this is not a facility struggling to stay warm, far, far from it.
how would guns work in space? fire couple shots and wait for it to cool down? swappable heat sinks?
I suspect it depends on what the purpose of those weapons is:
Consider, for instance, some kind of high-orbit defence platform with regular resupply. That can afford relatively wasteful practices, although, even there, throwing heatsinks overboard and FOD'ing it's own orbital track seems unwise.
Perhaps they'd settle for a simpler option of using a water heatsink and just spraying the stuff overboard - or the sublimation system the Apollo spacesuits used.
Conversely, some kind of spaceship operating far from support might not want to dump it's water overboard every time it engages targets, so might prefer to maintain a stock of dedicated heatsinks or just run very large radiators to dump the heat without requiring any consumables at all.
Visually its kind of a neat idea, space warships ejecting maxxed out heatsinks like empty mags and swapping in cool ones.
Yeah, the thing - one of the things - the lefty meme fails to take into account is that, uhm, solar panels are made up of atoms, unlike (for the most part) space. Needless to say, a rather glaring oversight.
I really can't get into because I don't want to accidentally disclose classified information. Anything to do with spacecraft is classified left and right seemingly at random. There's a reason I don't work for the feds anymore.
That said I'll say this. Terrestrial solar systems don't work in the cold for entirely different reasons. Comparing them to this is like asking why a paper airplane doesn't work when it gets wet but a jumbo jet does.
Tell me about it! I worked with a company that ... lets say they made superior spanners. Like, really awesome, totally better than the best spanners. Wrenches for you yanks.
On two separate occasions the (Aussie) DOD turned up and asked: "Hey, can you build ROCKETS with those spanners?"
Company: "Well, yes you can. These awesome spanners can build the shit out of any rocket you like."
DOD: "So, we should declare that these spanners are of military significance! And as part of a ROCKETRY PROGRAM they should be on the RESTRICTED EXPORT LIST! In fact we should declare them CLASSIFIED!!!11!! eleven!"
At which point some frantic conversations took place to cause the DOD to step back from the edge. Such a declaration would absolutely destroy the spanner company. Even though spanners are basic tools that could be used to build literally anything at all.
Actual rocketry programs, satellites or any details pertaining to them are all of military value. You could strap a rocket motor, precision guidance and a heat shield to a simple bowling ball and have a precision inter-continental weapon with first strike capability. If your guidance is good enough, you can use it for single target assassination anywhere on earth.
I have, no fooling, seen the DoD attempt to classify a USB cable.
You could have just said "I don't really know what I'm talking about." That would have saved everyone involved precious time.
Just because it's an unproven claim doesn't mean it's automatically false, just mostly inconsequential.
And yeah people in aerospace really shouldn't be laying their cards on the table here just for dick measuring purposes, that'd be real dumb.
I've made a pretty nice life of not negligently spilling classified information, and I'm certainly not about to risk jail time to impress you guys.
Let alone a furfag's toady like him.
Because you do not know classified information. You have already been handled. Twice, actually. I don't know why you want to slink away and make passive-aggressive comments, comments I'd classify as being outright delusional, like you're not going to get called out again. It's not a good look.
Sure thing buddy. And I don't know what you think you mean by "handled", I'm assuming it's a millennial thing of some kind, but I'm just going to tell you to handle these nuts.
You vastly overestimate how difficult it is to get one's hands on 'classified' information when working aerospace.
I didn't call it false because it was unproven. I called it false because it was false. He interjected himself into this thread by telling everyone he was a "subject matter expert", and that he definitely has sexual relationships with women. He conveniently "can't get into" details when asked to elaborate about the subject matter on which he is supposedly an expert. The excuse was that it might be "classified", an excuse I debunked. Information about a variety of these units is readily available. Even someone who isn't a supposed "subject matter expert" was able to explain the general workings and obstacles of energy attainment units in spacecraft. Our "expert" couldn't even give us a general overview. An attempt was then changed to move the goalposts. When that failed, Kaar apparently had a psychotic meltdown. There were deluded ramblings, juvenile rebuttals, and the use of alternate accounts to manipulate imaginary internet points. This is not a person of sound mind. He may believe he was part of an aerospace-adjacent organization, and had access to classified information, but the reality doesn't speak to that.
Take your fucking meds, this is slipping into paranoid schizophrenia territory.
This is a terrible attempt at gaslighting. Did you forget the posts are visible to everybody?
Kaarous ended this post by babbling about "running interference", like the gaming board is some sort of black operation. None of those people, or that board, have anything to do with this discussion. Neither does it have anything to do with reality. It also didn't help he made the implications of secret agendas with his comment about how it is "painfully clear" why I'm here. That is paranoid schizophrenia.
His schizophrenic ramblings continue here, where it is apparent he's hyperfocused on furries, faggots, and any combination of the two. None of these things have anything to do with this discussion. This notion that there is a cabal of sexual deviants conspiring against him, and that I would associate with them, indicates the furthest thing from a sound mind.
We witness his further mental regression here, where he somehow can't comprehend what the word "handled" means, so he lashes out in ignorance with low-effort responses.
Point manipulation is a trickier thing to track. They're not something you can link to like you can with a comment or a post. The only reason I managed to catch it is because I happened to be keeping my eye on it after the behavior he exhibited. Sure enough, I saw the same number of downvotes from multiple comments this thread, as well as in other threads, and even completely different boards. Changes were made to how the vote system works, however, so the value of negative votes diminished after the first volley.
Since that didn't work, what else do you want to try?
Personally I'd rather not go to jail just to impress internet randos.
Edit: it gets funnier, he got out wikipedia and is really mad that I didn't care to talk about something that was designed when I was a little kid.
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I see this in a Stellaris mod discord quite often. Probably too often 🤔
No, you'd personally rather lie to internet randos for clout. The workings of solar arrays used on space stations isn't classified. It took two minutes of searching to find information about the subject.
I didn't say solar arrays on the international space station. I said I helped design them for the DoD for some modern satellites.
I also said I didn't want to go into specifics, because I wasn't too solid on the particulars of what was classified and not on the birds I worked with. Which is true, there were more classification markings on the bird designs than I'd ever seen, and I've held a TS/SCI clearance for fifteen years.
It's perfectly consistent.
You however are the guy who was trying to run interference for fish fag and gemmaugr while they both spent weeks report spamming people in c/gaming. So it's painfully clear why you're here.
Your attempts to backpedal and deflect, and even outright lie again, aren't going to cut it here. Sorry. It would greatly benefit you to find a more constructive way to handle getting called out than digging yourself a deeper hole.
The only way to transfer heat through space is radiation. The sun emits radiation while the ISS does not, hence the ISS is going to build up excess heat. It's not cold, it's too warm. Sitting in the sunlight in space will roast you.
Yeah, if Karous had just said this, it would have avoided the tedious flame war above.
Another aspect is that, in the sun, those solar panels are exposed to extreme heat from sunlight and they are unable to cool.
Found the Fox News watcher!!1
Oh I can easily explain that, we don't have a tech issue, we have a skill issue mostly.
The guys responsible for the ISS were the guys that got to the moon in craft held together by duct tape and quick thinking
You struggle to hold a plane together because you couldn't check a warning light and are googling how to land a plane.
And you think you have any authority on how we should best produce power for ourselves and vehicles?
Whoa! This is retarded, even for them. I'm actually honestly shocked. And speechless. I'm not sure what I can really add, other than to reiterate that these people are absolute idiots.
This is so many strawmen and speculative claims piled up I don't know where to begin.
>Solar panels don't work in the cold?
Is this true? Is anyone making this claim? Did fox news make this claim? When? Were they quoting someone?
>ISS solar panels
Those are not the same as commercial rooftop solar panels. When you're putting something in space, the launch and installation cost dwarfs the material cost, so generally no expense is spared on the material side. These would be the top quality panels available at the time they were installed.
>Space is cold
Yeah in the dark, but not in the sunlight. The back side of the panels are dark of course. I have no idea what the thermodynamics of space station solar panels are.
Fully untangling this one bullshit image would take hours of research.
The inverse is actually true, and panels significantly lose efficiency as they heat up. Not sure where the cold claim came from. But, as you go on to say, those panels in space are different, and I'm not sure how they compare.
It strikes me as the "I was only half-listening" response that Leftists make to every single conservative argument. I bet it was something about bad weather conditions, like in the winter, seriously hampering a solar panel's ability to function and for its associated batteries to retain charge. The Leftist was not paying attention properly and decided this """meme""" was an impressive riposte.
Vacuum is an insulator. The ISS has a heating problem where it cannot dump heat all that well (notice the heat sinks attached to the station). The only method to dump heat is by radiation which is one of the slowest methods.
You mean it’s not about the cold period?! What occurs in atmosphere when cold is applied? What happens to solar panels inside an atmosphere that doesn’t occur in a void?
Vacuum is the best insulation there is
Do solar panels work in ice?
Fun fact, the Chinese balloon structure had a solar panel array in similar size to one of the ISS solar arrays:
https://www.nasa.gov/international-space-station/space-station-facts-and-figures/#:~:text=The%20space%20station%20is%20356,system%20aboard%20the%20space%20station.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chinese_Balloon_Size_Comparison.svg#:~:text=Summary&text=English%3A%20Estimated%20size%20of%20the,of%20Liberty%20(93%20m).
Wonder why it needed so much power?
I guess all those Tesla owners in Chicago are all Fox fans; it really is MAGA country.
This one's not even a moral one it's just a straight up "I'm smarter than you because I made up some bullshit that says I am"
"What's a cold cranking amp?"
We've been plugging our cars into mains voltage since before I was born here in Sweden, all my cars have had a socket next to the registration plate, so easy to just set the timer for the car heater and wake up to a nice and toasty defrosted car.
It doesn't get that cold here in the middle of Sweden for a battery blanket, but most diesel cars come with engine heaters.
Glow plugs is what I've heard them called.
Cool. Thank you!!!