The only exception is if it's anti jannie because jannies are far gayer than META posts. You could post gay porn, and it would be less gay than a jannie.
Ngl, after having weekly anti-janny posts back on KIA1, I find those pretty gay by this point too.
Mostly because back then they had character, had hair on their chest, called out mods for being outright abusive shitbags trying to pull a narrative over our eyes.
Now they are all "waaaa Dom banned me for 2 days" on repeat forever. Like damn nigger, take your hit with pride that you said some real shit that needed daddy to step in instead of crying about it. I got a 3 day last month for telling a dude to Kill Himself and I'm still happy for it.
Since it's this time of year, I feel this response is appropriate..
I don't classify myself as right wing, left wing, pro or anti anything in a tribal sense. I just look at what is the most effective policies for my agenda of:
• Not living in a shit hole
• Having the freedom to say what I want without an extreme over response.
• being able to protect that which I care about.
The right is good on the physical aspects of some of these but are awful at protecting cultural aspects which is why we are in our current predicament. The left......yeah I got nothing. There's literally no redeeming qualities left for them, every policy has failed and their 'empathy' has caused only more suffering.
The people who want to infringe on any of those points want you to be extreme and tribal in your beliefs as then you are easier to control. It's easier to make someone support signing their rights away if you can easily get them tribal on an issue than if they consider EVERYTHING on a case by case basis. You can tell the ones trying to do this because they go 'so you support (insert extreme) then don't you!?!' trying to force you to be tribal.
Now I know why you have the opinions that you have, you've got the Jew hate on so hardcore you'll ignore historical fact to point out how much worse everything is because Jews.
I don't know about anthropology, but Jews are disproportionately represented in the other fields. Am I a Jew hater with a fucked worldview too, because I know that?
I stand by every word I wrote in that quote. That doesn't mean I hate Jews. Can you comprehend that, or are you going to take the SJW view that citing black crime statistics means that you hate black people?
It isn't difficult. I'll help you through the logic.
IF {gay-commie-position} THEN Criticize
IF !{gay-commie-position} THEN (IF {youagree} THEN Support ELSE KeepYourMouthShut)
There are relatively few topics that where the lines aren't quite as bright. And on those you can have your "nuance" but before mouthing off figure out a way to do it without throwing away allies.
No one's making porn and video games as the reason for their existence except for weirdo leftists, you just made that up
Bullshit. There are plenty of people who have nothing in their lives but empty entertainment. It's completely apolitical.
You guys are so broken in your responses I should just revert back to my list because you do everything you accuse me of.
Again, I don't get how this attitude is at all productive, all it will do is make the people you complain about targeting you, view you as an enemy. You obviously view them as enemies, not even worth conversing with. Why should they treat you any different?
I also think the way you guys frequently equate video games with porn is extremely dishonest.
They serve roughly the same purpose to some; mindless entertainment and time wasting. I love video games, I enjoy them, and I don't hate on them, but porn/games/TV are all, to ironically quote Marx, opiates of the masses. I don't think anyone here is saying video games are immoral but, just like with anything else, there are issues when taken to the extreme. And the very medium of video games - and modern digitized entertainment as a whole - make it very easy to take to extremes. There is merit in warning people about video games and porn, 100%.
No one's making porn and video games as the reason for their existence
Of course not because they know it is shameful. Instead what they do is make porn and videogames their default activity. And then make all kinds of excuses why they can't do other worthwhile pursuits that are slightly riskier with delayed gratification. So it is defacto the reason for their existence even if they don't declare it publicly and deny it to themselves.
You may be technically correct that nobody MAKES porn and games the reason for their existence but for many men it IS and that is something you can't refute.
You have a valid point, but you're also being overly simplistic. Let's start with your examples.
Being against Palestine does not mean you automatically support Israel
This issue in general is just super divisive, and is bringing out the the worst in people on all sides. That said, the people most vehemently against Palestine are also vehemently in favor of Israel. There's no point trying to dodge that.
Laughing at TERFs and not supporting them does not make you pro-trans ( Imagine actually thinking this and being serious about it lol )
Kind of similar to the above; the people most outspoken against the TERFs (who are indeed not our allies, and we should be wary of) also run nonstop defense for the the transes. It's not that one stance has to imply the other, but the people engaging on these issues have a very real pattern.
Being against AI translation does not make you pro-SJW localiser
Was anyone saying that? If so, that's pretty silly.
Not wanting to ban porn does not explicitly make you 'pro porn' and anti-family ( Again, some retards here actually believe this )
Agreed, and I've taken fire for this myself. It's a charged situation, and people (mostly the anti-porn side) take it too far.
However, calling people retards and SJWs for having opinions you don't agree with, and having causes they are passionate about that you disagree with, isn't helpful. I feel like there could have been better ways to word this where it doesn't seem like you're attacking large portions of the users here...which never goes over well anywhere.
I do think it needs to be addressed a bit because they're now just going after anyone and making shit up about them.
I've seen a little of that, and it is a bit worrying for the future, but do you have examples of people making shit up?
Don't let the annoying shits prevent you from having a nuanced opinion on anything.
Again, overly simplistic but, yes, people should be able to have nuanced opinions without people jumping down their throat.
The Jack Thompson types are trying their best to make a bit of a comeback for 2024 it seems and pulling the SJW thing of "Hello fellow kids I love muh vidya games too now here's why you're a degenerate".
Saying things are degenerate and maybe they should be less degenerate is not inherently "Jack Thompson adjacent" or anything. I get your point, but it's also pretty dismissive of genuine concerns that I personally think are often pretty valid.
Also worth noting when it comes to the community these people are the least likely to post any actual gaming content.
And? This isn't a gaming forum, it's all but explicitly a gaming and culture war forum. KiA2 shot off specifically because half-KiA was stifling discussion and getting more and more censorious and controlling, trying to force it into only a gaming/entertainment board. From the very start, KiA/GG has been about more than gaming. It's always been about the broader culture war, and how the various people (leftists, SJWs, journos, media, politicians) in power are all lying to us and trying to force their own beliefs onto us.
If you want KiA2 to be half-KiA (which I know is not what you said), that is literally subversive. We're a free speech board, the whole point is to talk about things beyond just gaming.
In conclusion, I agree with you that speech shouldn't be stifled, and I agree that your concerns are valid, and the growing stifling of speech here by a rabid subset of the userbase is a worrying possibility, and not something I want, but I also think many of your complaints are, ironically, that there are too many people here who don't share your views. Yes, they break it down into us-vs-them a lot, but you're doing the same thing, while also dismissing their opinions.
the usual culprits who are pussying out and are mad at being called out on their behaviour.
This shit doesn't help. It also reeks of "mindreading," where you act like you know what's in their minds. How are they being pussies, and why are you taking credit for making them "mad?" Your whole main post and attitude in it just comes across as acting like you're better than the people you don't like. Which, again, is not helpful, especially given that, as I said, I think some of your core points do have merit.
I'm not being annoyed at you or anything on this particular point because I know you're actually one of the more reasonable ones around here...
Thanks, but it's also a bit of a backhanded compliment, and continues the trend of attacking everyone you disagree with. Me? I'm "actually one of the more reasonable ones," unlike...those people! Why not just stop caring what other people think, and say your piece? There are plenty of people I disagree with here, I don't feel the need to make threads calling them out. Sometimes people disagree, sometimes they downvote, sometimes I'd even say it's unfair. But I can coexist with people, even if sometimes they act like assholes.
...but I feel like I have to just clarify my position of hating both the TERFs and the trans activists.
Nah, wasn't talking about you.
I find it remarkable that the right seems to now be actively trying to court TERFs and are attacking the trannies from the left which is such a right wing thing to do and why I mock them regularly. You see this tactic being frequently used by mainstream conservatives in the UK.
Yup, and it fully deserves mockery. "Conservatives" acting like they care deeply about women's sports is peak cringe, and really stupid. They keep courting out and out liberals to criticize the trannies, when all you have to do is stick to your guns and defend reality; men are men, women are women. But they can't help but dip into the cringe, "oh, this liberal agrees with me, that must mean I'm right!" Yuck.
It's stupid, and incredibly damaging to the right. The right can ally with TERFs on the occasional issue, but the right needs to stop adopting their beliefs. TERFs are not our friends, and the only thing I'm guaranteed to agree with them on is that women and men are distinct and different. Anything past that point is up in the air, and I'm certainly not going to fit my beliefs around theirs just because they agree with me on one single issue.
Here though? It looks like the usual culprits have come out of the woodwork to prove my point. Kind of confirms my suspicion that it's the exact same bunch that's following me around on threads I post on and being weirdos.
Oh man, I get so tired of this. So many users here with minority views act like there's some big conspiracy against them. For the record, I have nothing against you, but this attitude stinks. Did it occur to you that maybe, just maybe, you and other users here end up on the same threads? I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone is following you around.
it's funny how you say I'm just complimenting people who agree with me.
Not sure what you mean by that, I never said that.
You can't be polite with them and you can't reason with them
Sure you can, with a bit of tact. Acting like they're subhuman retards and you're better than them doesn't really work though.
Also, I absolutely encourage you to try and have a disagreement with them so I can have a laugh, they'll probably treat you exactly the same.
I have disagreed with them. Sometimes they're assholes, sometimes it's fine. You also put a target on your back when you make threads complaining about them or - and I'm not saying you do this, but others certainly do - call them "stormfags" and the like. That just gets old and is, ironically, the very "SJW mindset" you're talking about. Plenty of the people "targeted" by the "right wing SJWs" started shit first by being assholes. Both sides can be assholes, but often the people on the one side don't realize their own side is also being assholes.
I think you're reading too much into a "them" vs "you" mindset. I've had a few disagreements with more prudish sorts on here too, as have others. It's a subset fraction that you'll find in both political wings, each camp holding to their own kind of reasoning.
I try not to get overly focused on it on here though. Plus I know that a fair number of people, even on here, aren't entirely on board with that kind of hardline stance. And at least at this juncture it's not really worth getting into drawn out brawls with those hardliners over petty disagreements.
The only people here who care about your opinions are other resident would-be Twitch-streaming gamedev anime fans, and even then, only so they can put in even less "work" than you do and mooch off of your platform.
well you should have clarified that then. The problem is we dont have many non woke professionals to translate things and when we do they often get pushed out. So the AI translations are the best alternative
He also seems to think that using an AI to translate 100% means we won't have a human do a read-through afterwards for clarity and presentation before publishing.
Neoluddism is a thing, and it impacts the Left and the Right in seemingly equal measure.
Don't let him lie to you. He is against all Machine Learning. It's entirely due to his willful ignorance. He believes that diffusors always require a internet connection, which is completely false. His understanding of ML is identical to that of a redditor, like those at https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/.
I can't tell you how to act on the Internet but please calm yourself and don't let the fluff preoccupy you. Updoots don't matter in the grand scheme. One day the forum will be gone or the Internet will, and that will be lost to aether. Going off like a sperg about disagreement doesn't help, as we've seen with the atheists sperging about Bible quote threads. It's run the risk of devolving into an Imp-style crusader and eventually becoming hated by mostly everyone here.
There's plenty of users here that are zero tolerance retards on certain subjects, even if a lot claim to not care about what others post if it isn't breaking the rules. It's a natural consequence of isolation from normies. We don't have to deal with too much of the bad ideologies being thrown in our face, but we still have to gatekeep from the poison too. From a political perspective, playing what looks like a Tim Pool fencesitter doesn't work given Beanie Man's track record. It hurts that many different people of different political persuasions get thrown in the Gamergate pit, which has evolved into more of a Free Speech/Culture War group. But there's those that have been in it longer, to the point that beliefs harden and there is no compromising with anyone. To be honest, hardening into more extreme views is going to happen naturally as civilization starts splitting apart or collapsing, as it's not easy to overcome the instinct of survival.
Being outside of the political spectrum is fine, as every critical thinking human being should, but the average polarized person can't make that distinction and will assume you're automatically siding with the other side. We all come across it, and there's not much that can be done, by the very nature of Internet posting lacking discussion context and body language. You seem to have good points on occasion, and sometimes bad ones. Just please do not take it personally when people disagree with you in a manner absent of logical fallacies, that is usual debate, argument, or discussion. Use your time wisely.
I'm not really a fence sitter, I just look at things as other people do on an individual basis and I hate the tribal bullshit that infests groups like I'm seeing a bit now.
Fence-sitter probably wasn't the right choice of words. I probably could have jokingly said "ascended" though it comes off as a bit... arrogant. I don't like the tribalism either, but it's bound to happen as the poles get more extreme and as we approach election season.
Tbf, machine translation is already used, localisers mostly edit nowdays. They mald because there's the posibility of them being removed entirely, but they didn't care as long as it didn't affect them directly
I remember he got mass downvoted for saying that Porsche customers are generally atheist and economy car owners are more likely to be Christian. On that point, I have to agree with him. It was a simple statement of fact. (see also, "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a wealthy man into heaven.")
There are a lot of facts thrown around here but also a lot of rhetoric, understandably, and occasionally they stray from one another.
I knew that comment had to have some strange context to it. u/Adamrises explained pretty well why you ate downvotes there.
But no, it's the endless screeching about Jews as the source of EVERY problem worldwide. The "man up and make some huwite babies" rhetoric. Be Christian and agree with me on everything or else you're the devil incarnate and must be killed. And don't you dare suggest white women have some accountability for being vacuous insufferable sluts; that blame falls on the Jews. I'm sure the typical guys will be screaming Deus Vult as they click the downvote on this comment.
I'm sure you bitch about lack of nuance on your own side of these positions, right, like TheImp's insistence that everyone who disagrees with him is a NOW shill.
You're just butthurt that people disagree with you so you are concern trolling over it.
I've been screeching at people here for years to both not be a retard who lets Right Wing Grifters off just because they say what they want to hear, nor let women off ever for anything because it all comes back to them.
Most of the time, I end up doing pretty well on that front. Downvotes come, but rarely do that actually verbalize why (which usually means they are just mad at being called out) and I'll usually end up in the positive. Not that they matter, but as a barometer for people's reaction.
So I'll tell you, like I tell Imp. The problem isn't that everyone hates you for telling the truth and is caught in an echo chamber, the problem is you are unlikable and bad at convincing them of your position. So much so that even when you are right, people disagree with you just because they don't want to be associated with you. Such as myself in this case where I find the "JOOS ARE BEHIND IT ALL" both retarded and giving women a massive pass for their constant abuses.
Stop stop, the strawman is already dead.
It's like an inverse motte-and-bailey fallacy, where he argues that everybody who is in favor of the motte is actually in favor of the bailey.
Meta posts are really gay. "Wah wah someone disagreed with me ON THE INTERNET!"
The only exception is if it's anti jannie because jannies are far gayer than META posts. You could post gay porn, and it would be less gay than a jannie.
Ngl, after having weekly anti-janny posts back on KIA1, I find those pretty gay by this point too.
Mostly because back then they had character, had hair on their chest, called out mods for being outright abusive shitbags trying to pull a narrative over our eyes.
Now they are all "waaaa Dom banned me for 2 days" on repeat forever. Like damn nigger, take your hit with pride that you said some real shit that needed daddy to step in instead of crying about it. I got a 3 day last month for telling a dude to Kill Himself and I'm still happy for it.
Weekly anti-janny posts accumulate gayness overtime.
Since it's this time of year, I feel this response is appropriate..
I don't classify myself as right wing, left wing, pro or anti anything in a tribal sense. I just look at what is the most effective policies for my agenda of:
• Not living in a shit hole • Having the freedom to say what I want without an extreme over response. • being able to protect that which I care about.
The right is good on the physical aspects of some of these but are awful at protecting cultural aspects which is why we are in our current predicament. The left......yeah I got nothing. There's literally no redeeming qualities left for them, every policy has failed and their 'empathy' has caused only more suffering.
The people who want to infringe on any of those points want you to be extreme and tribal in your beliefs as then you are easier to control. It's easier to make someone support signing their rights away if you can easily get them tribal on an issue than if they consider EVERYTHING on a case by case basis. You can tell the ones trying to do this because they go 'so you support (insert extreme) then don't you!?!' trying to force you to be tribal.
It's Christmas so why not :)
So are you going to apologize for calling me a Jew hater or nah?
Yes, to wit:
Oops.
I could be wrong, but I believe a gentleman with the same username as you just posted this.
Are you a mind reader that can tell I hate the Jews as opposed to simply recognizing historical facts?
Funny, I said the same thing.
I don't know about anthropology, but Jews are disproportionately represented in the other fields. Am I a Jew hater with a fucked worldview too, because I know that?
I stand by every word I wrote in that quote. That doesn't mean I hate Jews. Can you comprehend that, or are you going to take the SJW view that citing black crime statistics means that you hate black people?
You don't seem to think he's bad.
He's not honest. He is fine with Jewish men and women cooperating while pretending it's impossible for men and women to reconcile.
We call you a leftist because you KEEP ATTACKING THE RIGHT.
It isn't difficult. I'll help you through the logic.
IF {gay-commie-position} THEN Criticize
IF !{gay-commie-position} THEN (IF {youagree} THEN Support ELSE KeepYourMouthShut)
There are relatively few topics that where the lines aren't quite as bright. And on those you can have your "nuance" but before mouthing off figure out a way to do it without throwing away allies.
Captain nuance over here fails at reading comprehension.
What I said was don't be a fat sack of crap and don't make porn and videogames the prime reason for your existence.
In case you didn't realize that ISNT a gay commie position because they DO want you to do that.
Bullshit. There are plenty of people who have nothing in their lives but empty entertainment. It's completely apolitical.
Again, I don't get how this attitude is at all productive, all it will do is make the people you complain about targeting you, view you as an enemy. You obviously view them as enemies, not even worth conversing with. Why should they treat you any different?
They serve roughly the same purpose to some; mindless entertainment and time wasting. I love video games, I enjoy them, and I don't hate on them, but porn/games/TV are all, to ironically quote Marx, opiates of the masses. I don't think anyone here is saying video games are immoral but, just like with anything else, there are issues when taken to the extreme. And the very medium of video games - and modern digitized entertainment as a whole - make it very easy to take to extremes. There is merit in warning people about video games and porn, 100%.
Of course not because they know it is shameful. Instead what they do is make porn and videogames their default activity. And then make all kinds of excuses why they can't do other worthwhile pursuits that are slightly riskier with delayed gratification. So it is defacto the reason for their existence even if they don't declare it publicly and deny it to themselves.
You may be technically correct that nobody MAKES porn and games the reason for their existence but for many men it IS and that is something you can't refute.
Aren’t the anti-sjws just as bad as the sjws, guys?
We’ve had your scum hanging around since the beginning. You’re nothing new.
You're a newfag wading into things you don't understand. You're not subversive, but you are a retard.
You have a valid point, but you're also being overly simplistic. Let's start with your examples.
This issue in general is just super divisive, and is bringing out the the worst in people on all sides. That said, the people most vehemently against Palestine are also vehemently in favor of Israel. There's no point trying to dodge that.
Kind of similar to the above; the people most outspoken against the TERFs (who are indeed not our allies, and we should be wary of) also run nonstop defense for the the transes. It's not that one stance has to imply the other, but the people engaging on these issues have a very real pattern.
Was anyone saying that? If so, that's pretty silly.
Agreed, and I've taken fire for this myself. It's a charged situation, and people (mostly the anti-porn side) take it too far.
However, calling people retards and SJWs for having opinions you don't agree with, and having causes they are passionate about that you disagree with, isn't helpful. I feel like there could have been better ways to word this where it doesn't seem like you're attacking large portions of the users here...which never goes over well anywhere.
I've seen a little of that, and it is a bit worrying for the future, but do you have examples of people making shit up?
Again, overly simplistic but, yes, people should be able to have nuanced opinions without people jumping down their throat.
Saying things are degenerate and maybe they should be less degenerate is not inherently "Jack Thompson adjacent" or anything. I get your point, but it's also pretty dismissive of genuine concerns that I personally think are often pretty valid.
And? This isn't a gaming forum, it's all but explicitly a gaming and culture war forum. KiA2 shot off specifically because half-KiA was stifling discussion and getting more and more censorious and controlling, trying to force it into only a gaming/entertainment board. From the very start, KiA/GG has been about more than gaming. It's always been about the broader culture war, and how the various people (leftists, SJWs, journos, media, politicians) in power are all lying to us and trying to force their own beliefs onto us.
If you want KiA2 to be half-KiA (which I know is not what you said), that is literally subversive. We're a free speech board, the whole point is to talk about things beyond just gaming.
In conclusion, I agree with you that speech shouldn't be stifled, and I agree that your concerns are valid, and the growing stifling of speech here by a rabid subset of the userbase is a worrying possibility, and not something I want, but I also think many of your complaints are, ironically, that there are too many people here who don't share your views. Yes, they break it down into us-vs-them a lot, but you're doing the same thing, while also dismissing their opinions.
This shit doesn't help. It also reeks of "mindreading," where you act like you know what's in their minds. How are they being pussies, and why are you taking credit for making them "mad?" Your whole main post and attitude in it just comes across as acting like you're better than the people you don't like. Which, again, is not helpful, especially given that, as I said, I think some of your core points do have merit.
Thanks, but it's also a bit of a backhanded compliment, and continues the trend of attacking everyone you disagree with. Me? I'm "actually one of the more reasonable ones," unlike...those people! Why not just stop caring what other people think, and say your piece? There are plenty of people I disagree with here, I don't feel the need to make threads calling them out. Sometimes people disagree, sometimes they downvote, sometimes I'd even say it's unfair. But I can coexist with people, even if sometimes they act like assholes.
Nah, wasn't talking about you.
Yup, and it fully deserves mockery. "Conservatives" acting like they care deeply about women's sports is peak cringe, and really stupid. They keep courting out and out liberals to criticize the trannies, when all you have to do is stick to your guns and defend reality; men are men, women are women. But they can't help but dip into the cringe, "oh, this liberal agrees with me, that must mean I'm right!" Yuck.
It's stupid, and incredibly damaging to the right. The right can ally with TERFs on the occasional issue, but the right needs to stop adopting their beliefs. TERFs are not our friends, and the only thing I'm guaranteed to agree with them on is that women and men are distinct and different. Anything past that point is up in the air, and I'm certainly not going to fit my beliefs around theirs just because they agree with me on one single issue.
Oh man, I get so tired of this. So many users here with minority views act like there's some big conspiracy against them. For the record, I have nothing against you, but this attitude stinks. Did it occur to you that maybe, just maybe, you and other users here end up on the same threads? I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone is following you around.
Not sure what you mean by that, I never said that.
Sure you can, with a bit of tact. Acting like they're subhuman retards and you're better than them doesn't really work though.
I have disagreed with them. Sometimes they're assholes, sometimes it's fine. You also put a target on your back when you make threads complaining about them or - and I'm not saying you do this, but others certainly do - call them "stormfags" and the like. That just gets old and is, ironically, the very "SJW mindset" you're talking about. Plenty of the people "targeted" by the "right wing SJWs" started shit first by being assholes. Both sides can be assholes, but often the people on the one side don't realize their own side is also being assholes.
I think you're reading too much into a "them" vs "you" mindset. I've had a few disagreements with more prudish sorts on here too, as have others. It's a subset fraction that you'll find in both political wings, each camp holding to their own kind of reasoning.
I try not to get overly focused on it on here though. Plus I know that a fair number of people, even on here, aren't entirely on board with that kind of hardline stance. And at least at this juncture it's not really worth getting into drawn out brawls with those hardliners over petty disagreements.
The only people here who care about your opinions are other resident would-be Twitch-streaming gamedev anime fans, and even then, only so they can put in even less "work" than you do and mooch off of your platform.
wait why are you against AI translation? like what reason would there be to be against that??
well you should have clarified that then. The problem is we dont have many non woke professionals to translate things and when we do they often get pushed out. So the AI translations are the best alternative
He also seems to think that using an AI to translate 100% means we won't have a human do a read-through afterwards for clarity and presentation before publishing.
Neoluddism is a thing, and it impacts the Left and the Right in seemingly equal measure.
Don't let him lie to you. He is against all Machine Learning. It's entirely due to his willful ignorance. He believes that diffusors always require a internet connection, which is completely false. His understanding of ML is identical to that of a redditor, like those at https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/.
I can't tell you how to act on the Internet but please calm yourself and don't let the fluff preoccupy you. Updoots don't matter in the grand scheme. One day the forum will be gone or the Internet will, and that will be lost to aether. Going off like a sperg about disagreement doesn't help, as we've seen with the atheists sperging about Bible quote threads. It's run the risk of devolving into an Imp-style crusader and eventually becoming hated by mostly everyone here.
There's plenty of users here that are zero tolerance retards on certain subjects, even if a lot claim to not care about what others post if it isn't breaking the rules. It's a natural consequence of isolation from normies. We don't have to deal with too much of the bad ideologies being thrown in our face, but we still have to gatekeep from the poison too. From a political perspective, playing what looks like a Tim Pool fencesitter doesn't work given Beanie Man's track record. It hurts that many different people of different political persuasions get thrown in the Gamergate pit, which has evolved into more of a Free Speech/Culture War group. But there's those that have been in it longer, to the point that beliefs harden and there is no compromising with anyone. To be honest, hardening into more extreme views is going to happen naturally as civilization starts splitting apart or collapsing, as it's not easy to overcome the instinct of survival.
Being outside of the political spectrum is fine, as every critical thinking human being should, but the average polarized person can't make that distinction and will assume you're automatically siding with the other side. We all come across it, and there's not much that can be done, by the very nature of Internet posting lacking discussion context and body language. You seem to have good points on occasion, and sometimes bad ones. Just please do not take it personally when people disagree with you in a manner absent of logical fallacies, that is usual debate, argument, or discussion. Use your time wisely.
Fence-sitter probably wasn't the right choice of words. I probably could have jokingly said "ascended" though it comes off as a bit... arrogant. I don't like the tribalism either, but it's bound to happen as the poles get more extreme and as we approach election season.
Tbf, machine translation is already used, localisers mostly edit nowdays. They mald because there's the posibility of them being removed entirely, but they didn't care as long as it didn't affect them directly
I'm not sure I'm really in the mood for a classic Christmas movie styled feud on here today. Could we maybe postpone that for another time?
Tell that to Lethn. He’s the newfag retard sliding the forum.
I was telling it to Lethn, that's who I was more or less replying to here.
Aside from perhaps the AI stuff, all those positions have people on the opposing side that engage in the same behavior that you are complaining about.
What is it that you find unbalanced?
I remember he got mass downvoted for saying that Porsche customers are generally atheist and economy car owners are more likely to be Christian. On that point, I have to agree with him. It was a simple statement of fact. (see also, "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a wealthy man into heaven.")
There are a lot of facts thrown around here but also a lot of rhetoric, understandably, and occasionally they stray from one another.
Do you have a link to the comment handy? That's such an odd thing to eat a ton of downvotes for.
I knew that comment had to have some strange context to it. u/Adamrises explained pretty well why you ate downvotes there.
I'm sure you bitch about lack of nuance on your own side of these positions, right, like TheImp's insistence that everyone who disagrees with him is a NOW shill.
You're just butthurt that people disagree with you so you are concern trolling over it.
Your whole complaint is that this place isn't an echo chamber of anti-natalism.
Concern trolling
I've been screeching at people here for years to both not be a retard who lets Right Wing Grifters off just because they say what they want to hear, nor let women off ever for anything because it all comes back to them.
Most of the time, I end up doing pretty well on that front. Downvotes come, but rarely do that actually verbalize why (which usually means they are just mad at being called out) and I'll usually end up in the positive. Not that they matter, but as a barometer for people's reaction.
So I'll tell you, like I tell Imp. The problem isn't that everyone hates you for telling the truth and is caught in an echo chamber, the problem is you are unlikable and bad at convincing them of your position. So much so that even when you are right, people disagree with you just because they don't want to be associated with you. Such as myself in this case where I find the "JOOS ARE BEHIND IT ALL" both retarded and giving women a massive pass for their constant abuses.
I find it telling that no one wants to address this comment: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17s5IDTNvd/x/c/4Z7Rne6Nwiv
Ah, that explains why I don't have a Singer 911. Definitely isn't due to me having $400 in my bank account.
Again, we made a meme to ridicule your retarded position very early on during gamergate.
You’re not enlightened. You’re carrying water for leftism.