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– MorbidlyCatatonic 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

And to absolutely nobodies surprise, both sides are implementing propaganda for their war. It's almost as if we're in an era of easily accessible information.

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– BandageBandolier 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

well over 90% of Gazan deaths are civilians

And neither side seems to care about how ridiculous they sound. How the fuck do you justify a statistic like that? Terrorists aren't exactly known for keeping terror IDs on their person or employment rolls to check against, quite to opposite in fact. They're all Schrödinger's terrorist once they're dead, the proportions are completely unknown.

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– Trailblazersfan 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

I wish the Jews in the US would do the right thing and return to their homeland to defend it

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– DeadHeadFred 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

This is odd, you fags don't want the Jews to have their own homeland.

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– FatalConceit 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

fuck off big nose

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– DeadHeadFred 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Asking for a stormfag to have a sense of logic is like asking a fat kid to stop eating candy.

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– cryogen 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They need to pick one. They can either:

Live as a cohesive yet dispersed "diaspora" that gets its tentacles into every country and every institution and the subverts them to become comfortable with their group's interest over their own (such as unrestricted immigration, economic "globalism," sympathy for Communism, etc) OR

Have the entire Free World build and sustain for it a new ethno-State in its "ancient home" by dint of pure international realpolitik (something akin to the CCP and USSR banding together to recreate a "Cherokee State" in the middle of North America and grinding Americans into the proverbial dust).

The two are both heavy asks, but given that their ethos are also contradictory...? YOU SHOULD ONLY GET TO PICK ONE

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Are you literally grouping all jews into one package and assigning them group think? The most prominent conservatives protecting europe and America are also jews, like libsoftiktok.

You are literally using some jews who happens to be leftists as the whole. In that case one can do the same on all the other races, using your logic.

But I'm sure you will be happy in a communist "utopia" as long as it is whites only.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

This is your cue to defend Israel, "I Hate Both Sides" accounts. Don't be shy now.

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– SR388-SAX 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I don't hate both sides. I simply don't care about either side.

Israel as a country produces absolutely nothing I care about, and the Palestinian Islamists are, well, Islamists. I don't care what either of them do. I just don't want to spend any of my money on some stupid millennia-old Hetfield and McCoy tribal warfare situation.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

How dare you not care about Israel!

Think of all the... uhm...

...

ORANGES! Yes! Where would you get Oranges from without Israel!

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– SR388-SAX 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

ORANGES! Yes! Where would you get Oranges from without Israel!

The supermarket. Duh.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

DAMN

I hadn't thought of that.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You seem consistent in that. I don't see you popping up like a gopher to defend Israel. There are several accounts here who relentlessly defend Israel while feigning neutrality.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I don't see you popping up like a gopher to defend Israel.

The thing is, if I look at the situation neutrally, it looks like both sides are basically acting in their own best interests, based on their goals.

Hamas are shit for targeting civilians, but they're also religious nuts think that's a reasonable thing to do, and they wouldn't stop at Israel if they managed to win. They'd also get curb stomped if they put on uniforms and marched on Israel, so these guerilla tactics make sense for them. They get to kill some Jews, some get to go to heaven and collect their virgins, it's all good to them. They've got nothing better to do because they live in a shit hole that their ancestors created (with some help from Israel).

The Israeli people, from what I can tell, hate the Palestinians just as much as the Palestinians hate the Israelis, but they aren't bloodthirsty murderers. Instead they're the kind of bully that pushes the line without breaking any rules (or breaking only small ones) until they get a response that they can take to the international stage and say, "look at these crazy people trying to kill all of us!" And they're right that there are a bunch of crazy people trying to kill them, and that Hamas are hiding behind civilians, and that under international law that makes Hamas responsible for those civilian deaths. So I can hardly get worked up if Israel levels entire city blocks that are used by international terrorists who relish in murdering random civilians. The settlements encroaching on Palestinian territory are shitty, but at the same time if I'm Israel, I absolutely want as big a buffer between myself and these crazy savages as possible, so I can hardly fault them for doing it.

But if one side doesn't exterminate the other entirely, it's just going to be a generational cycle of skirmishes because there's never going to be peace. At the time of its creation, I'd have opposed the state of Israel on the grounds that the people whose ancestors left it, left it, and I don't think that some distant relative from generations ago gives you any right to "go back". That logic opens up ridiculous cans of worms that would affect the entire world. But now that it exists, we have multiple generations of "indigenous" Israelis so I think those "indigenous" people have the right to defend their homes. And so do the Palestinians, such that they are.

It's a fucked up situation that I want no part of. That said, since I don't think that either side really contributes meaningfully to the rest of the world, I just don't care about the outcome. The Muslim world will hate and want to rule everyone else regardless of whether Israel or the "Palestinians" exist or not. And weird Zionist Jews that hate and want to rule everyone else will exist whether Israel exists or not.

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– btbw [S] 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

lol right on cue MorbidlyCatatonic immediately came and did the "both sides" thing

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– Hugs 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Yeah because everyone knows from TV shows and movies that there's a good guy and a bad guy and no such thing as nuance.

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– btbw [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

it would be nice if boomer conservatives thought that way and didnt immediately default to cheering for America invading the Middle East because Middle Eastern leaders didnt accept Rothschild bankers in their country

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– Hellsbells00 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Nah, fag. See people that actually have real convictions and aren't just shilling idpol to forum slide, are consistent. This, like most other mossad propaganda or CIA propaganda, was both obvious weeks ago and reprehensible as usual.

Meanwhile your goon squad is just autistic screeching to distract from what you fags are really after - racial idpol based leftism.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

^^^^ Things that this account never says in pro-Israel submissions here

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– Guy_Incognito76 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

It's a really bizarre line of argumentation, any time you criticize "certain persons" they flip out and scream "THAT WOULD MAKE YOU THE SAME AS THE LEFT!" like it's some kind of huge gotcha.

"we can't form coalitions to tilt elections, that would make us like the left!"

"we can't advocate to reward our friends and punish our enemies, that would be like the left!"

"we can't deploy lawfare to exercise power, that would be like the left!"

Etc. I wish they would get a new script.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Etc. I wish they would get a new script.

It would be difficult for them to do while still trying to accomplish their goals. They're just a bunch of concern trolls. Stupid shit like "we can't use out enemy's tactics against them" is pretty obvious. Although we really can't use some of their tactics, since there are some that absolutely require you to have the implicit backing of the party and its supporters.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Objectively wrong fag, I'vecalled out that bullshit as well. What pro israel posts? Who here actually buys the israeli media bullshit here? I see one of those for every thousand of you glowing faggots "JOOS RUN THE WORLD REAL SOCIALISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED" goon shillery.

I'm sick of you fake, vile goblins trying to forum slide.

You faggots do NOTHING but SERVE the people you CLAIM to hate. You are utterly without value - your goon brigade contributes nothing to discussion but screeching NOOOOSE and JOOOOS, you shits actively bury your heads in the sand regarding leftist poison that you can't throw parentheses around. You promote leftist authoritarian and cultural marxist ideology wearing a different paint and serve as propaganda agents in the same way that "hate crime" hoaxers do.

Get the fuck out.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

What pro israel posts?

Most of what YesMovement posts on a daily basis for example

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– The_Mad_Draklor 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It’s not hate, it’s apathy.

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– deleted 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Let Palestine obtain exactly one nuke. It'll be like turning on the self-cleaning oven.

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– btbw [S] 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

He got the data from here https://archive.is/8Ksv4

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– Grumman 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

You didn't even read the first three pieces of text on the page. The list is incomplete - these are only the officially confirmed victims whose names have been cleared for publication - as should be obvious from the fact that 1,149 is a smaller number than 1,300.

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– btbw [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

where did the 40 dead babies propaganda come from if they "dont yet know about it yet"?

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– ghostfox1_ 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Reading is verboten. All they know is screeching about jews, much like they claim jews screech about... Everything.

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– DeadHeadFred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Like leftists, they project. Stormfags are all the same.

They also forget that it was said "children died, some of them beheaded". They added some arbitrary number because these retards are retards.

We even have a photo that these stormfags masturbated to of a burnt baby beyond recognition.

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– Telia 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

We "stormfags" didnt add some arbitrary number, it was zionists that did. The 40 dead babies thing was from you zionists

https://files.catbox.moe/60w9te.jpg

But nice try JIDF

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You are such a faggot.

Soldiers encounter unimaginable horrors as they remove the bodies of victims, including about 40 babies and small children — some with their heads chopped off

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1696938010-it-smells-of-death-here-surveying-the-scenes-of-atrocities-in-kfar-aza

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– Telia 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Sure, so why did you claim us "stormfags" made up that number? . And why didnt those babies show up in the list of victims, and its only people "claiming" that there were 40 babies killed with no record or evidence?

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Because stormfags spread the words of a guy paraphrasing an interview.

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– Graphenium 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They also forget that it was said "children died, some of them beheaded".

Lmfao, nice attempt at a backpedal but everything was archived

burnt baby beyond recognition.

You mean that ai generated brisket that shekelpiro posted?

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– DeadHeadFred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Prove it.

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– Graphenium 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

https://theintercept.com/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-disinformation/

Ok

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

the intercept.

Ok, let me quote CNN ...

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– Telia 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

"We even have a photo that these stormfags masturbated to of a burnt baby beyond recognition."

More zionist atrocity propaganda. You cant even try to make it sound believable. .You really cant help yourselves can you? Lying is in your nature.

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Stop fapping to dead people

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– Telia 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I dont do that, you guys do though https://archive.is/kkn6J

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We saw you stormfags fapping to a burnt out baby.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Like leftists, they project. Stormfags are all the same.

Another account that sounds exactly like several others here

Hmm

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– Knife-TotingRat 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Always beware when they spew biblically-significant numbers.

Not that I give a fuck about the damn Gazans, either, the more of them the Isrealis kill, the fewer of them for to come here.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8h0NzwaEAAdRme?format=jpg&name=medium

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– Telia 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They wouldnt be able to come here in the first place if our governments were not being occupied

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"Name one time Islam has ever been militant and expansionist!"

Dhimmi.

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– SparkMandrill83 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

But muh human shields!

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Post Reported for:

  • Rule 16 - Identity Attacks

No such case here.

  • Rule 12 - Falsehoods

Forgive me if I don't trust anything named Ubersoy.

There are things here to debate, especially that "well over 90% of the deaths in Israel's war on Gaza are civilians". Frankly, I don't think we have any good numbers on Gazan deaths. Then there's how something like: "Zohar Meiri" is counted. It has no age labeled on it.

The point is, you're going to need to counter it with your own information.

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– btbw [S] 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I literally posted the website where he got the israeIi deaths data from.. https://archive.is/8Ksv4 Whilst im not sure about the Gaza deaths, IsraeI has been obliterating residential areas in Gaza

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Uday and Qusay Hussein were in a residential part of Mosul, held up in a bunker, that had a fake house built around it. Just because some place is zoned residential, doesn't mean there's not genuine military targets in it.

When the US military went into Fallujah, the arab fighters had set-up many sophisticated and complex bunker networks with over-lapping fields of fire, as well as logistic and movement routes all along the city with entrenched fighting positions.

As for St. Lo in France, every square inch of the city was leveled due to the incredible entrenchments of the German army; resulting in an incredibly "danger close" bombing run that killed nearly 150 allied troops.

"obliterating residential areas" means nothing.

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– btbw [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I would not use ww2 allies as a good example of "humane and justified warfare"

https://files.catbox.moe/nhd2in.png

And sure.... obliterating residential areas means nothing if you are a genocidal .

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I didn't say anything about humane or justified.

Obliterating residential areas means something if someone's there. War sucks. Shit gets wrecked, and assholes turn homes, hospitals, and schools into bunkers.

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– zakat 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And sure.... obliterating residential areas means nothing if you are a genocidal .

Just look a t the amount of casualties of the bombing of dresden (3 days) and compare it to the amount of casualties from israel's attack. they really really suck at this "genocide" thing, cause they cannot even get to half of the 3day numbers of the Allies after roughly a month.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Have you been paying any attention to the psychotic stuff coming out of Israel?

https://scored.co/c/KotakuInAction2/p/17rlrMUZZW/former-head-of-the-israeli-natio/c

https://scored.co/c/KotakuInAction2/p/17rTBPJzG5/israeli-minister-suspended-for-s/c

Not included here is Netanyahu's "Amalek" quote.

Also not included here are all the Zionists mouthpieces "asking" things like, "why doesn't Egypt take them?" which implies the forcible removal is a foregone conclusion.

Do you honestly think they are trying to minimize civilian casualties?

ETA: Why are you even defending Zionists anyway? In the past you called them leftist racist.

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– Guy_Incognito76 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Has Israel ever shown evidence of a specific military target inside an elementary school or orphanage after they blow it up?

It's usually:

-Hamas did it themselves.

-Okay we did it but there were bad guys there maybe.

-We got bad intel.

-Okay there was no intel but we're pretty sure they deserved it.

-Why do you keep asking?? this is really making us look bad.

-Then assassinate the journalist reporting stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh

If that doesn't work, blow up their entire family

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/1/to-kill-a-family-the-loss-of-wael-dahdouhs-family-to-israeli-bombs

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Have you been paying attention to what I just said? I need more than just "well I think". "Obliterating residential areas" is like saying "Drove tanks over farmland", that doesn't indicate a desire to cause a famine.

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– mharmless 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This appears to violate rule 2, as you are engaging in speech that promotes, advocates, glorifies, or endorses violence, in this case against civilian targets.

Just because some place is zoned residential, doesn't mean there's not genuine military targets in it.

Bad Dom. Bad. For shame.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It doesn't, I'm telling you what war is. Not that it should be done.

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– mharmless 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

And I pointed out what a man with nothing to lose is. Not that it should be done.

Remove my strike.

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– DeadHeadFred 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Tell you bosses to stop using residential areas as weapons storage or places to launch attacks.

On that knowing you are a stormfag, you don't literally care about the Gazans. Otherwise you would try to house them on your home.

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– Graphenium 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

> sucks off zionazis

> struggles with english

> wants the browns to be exterminated

> handshake

Lol good one

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– zakat 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

wants the browns to be exterminated

What's wrong with that? They worship a pedophile and want to eradicate Christians as soon as they're finished with the Jews.

And in case you are one of them: Here's a pic of Pedo-Moha just for you

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– Graphenium 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What’s wrong with that? It takes away your people’s biggest victim card. When everyone starts thinking you’re just a bunch of nazis, they’ll start to wonder why that guy with the funny mustache got so much shit over the years just for pointing it out

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– DeadHeadFred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

stormfag

That's cute, it thinks it's human... lol

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– Graphenium 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Go sacrifice more babies to moloch lmfao

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– DeadHeadFred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You literally support genocide.

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– Graphenium 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

But I oppose what pissrael is doing to the Palestinians?

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– Telia 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yes we all know you think we filthy filthy goyim are animals

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– DeadHeadFred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No, just the stormfaggots.

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– Telia 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

thats not what your talmud says. Your talmud was very clear about how non jews are animals

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– ThreeLights 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

you're going to need to counter it with your own information.

You think they would really do that? They rather call people names and throw false reports.

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– Guy_Incognito76 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I think the argument is that since Gaza elected Hamas no one is "innocent."

Total war was always a thing up until recently. "war crimes" are redundant. Nevertheless, Russia has been charged as such for far less than Israel is doing.

Its not clear what anyone expects from Gaza though. They can't leave, they can't be independent. If everyone there is trapped in an open-air prison, why not just arm up with knives and clubs and fight for freedom? Point fingers all you want, it's hard to blame them.

It's testament to the jews spitefulness and vengefulness they make so many enduring enemies. In the US we stomp our foes into the dirt, then give them lots of money and become best friends. Like the mafia guy who has his muscle break your legs, then tosses some cash at you. It's hard to understate how much people hated Germany and Japan, but that was gone in at least a generation. Israel needs to work on their Hegemon skill tree.

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– deleted 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

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