I finally finished Mayans MC (spin-off of Sons of Anarchy) and in the second to last episode the main character has an accident and Jax Teller’s ex is the one to give him a ride to get help. In the car she says that men have it so easy because they can beat their chests and act like kids well into adulthood but women are the ones who really have it rough. Of course the main character offered no pushback. But hey I’m sure all the construction workers, miners, sewer workers, military, police, first responders, firefighters, farmers, etc. can rest easy knowing they have it easy.
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A lot of Tarantino films are just over-the-top revenge fantasies against socially approved identity targets. Kill Bill is female revenge fantasy, Django Unchained is black revenge fantasy, Inglorious Bastards is Jewish revenge fantasy, etc. I used to enjoy these movies for their undeniable craft, but then I came to realize that a lot of Tarantino fans relish not in his talent but in his chosen villains.
This is not to defend slave owners or Nazis. I just think Tarantino films have come to dehumanize their bad guys to an almost gleeful degree, and the people who most enjoy it tend to be radically anti-male and anti-white.
I mean, can you imagine what would happen to him if he wrote a film about a revenge fantasy against Jews, Blacks, or Women? He would have a rape allegation against him within six hours. Given how much he worked for Weinstein, that might even be true. He couldn't make one even if he wanted to.
There's pictures of Tarantino sniffing underage women's feet. He's one of those types of people. 4chan discussed this several years ago.
That's right!
A few examples of Tarentino's foot fetish come to mind-- Barefoot Uma Thurman in the Jackrabbit Slim dance-off in Pulp Fiction; the Kill Bill scene in which Uma attempts to escape the backseat of a car; closeups of dirty bare feet on hippie girls in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood . . .
There are probably more examples but these come immediately to mind. Tarentino evidently really digs Uma Thurman's big gross dirty feet. I'll bet he's a toe-sucker.
He actually sucks Salma Hayek's toe in From Dusk Till Dawn, so you would win that bet.
I'm convinced that Quentin isn't really acting in Dusk Till Dawn, but simply being himself.
Steven in Django Unchained is written as thoroughly despicable, smarter than Candie, loves power, and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And he’s slaughtered by Django at the end.
It's very sad that on the entirety of the NormieNet™️, a statement like "I don't think two hours of murdering slave owners makes for good cinema" would be taken as an endorsement of slavery.
At the time I liked Kill Bill. I was thinking of rewatching but maybe it’s better to leave it alone. I do remember laughing when she took down those 50 Japanese ladies
If I recall, all the Japanese grunts were male, except for a single female one using a flail.
You recall wrong, there’s at least one long-haired young girl in the Crazy 88 who is killed by the Bride.
Alright, then. But it still wasn't 50 women, as Smith thought.
Yes, I have no idea what that was about…
You are right. I just hadn’t seen it in a long time.
My bad. I got confused. Haven’t watched in a long time
You’re reaching. Kill Bill is a hyper-exaggerated “guy screws over girl so girl gets revenge,” which is fine. Not all the men in the movie are incompetent (Bill, Bud, Pai Mei) not all are bad (Hanzo), and the vast majority of women are evil and unsympathetic (Sofie, Gogo, Elle, O-Ren, Vernita.)
On top of that The Bride is utterly overjoyed to find her daughter alive, keeps her, and motherhood runs throughout the movie(s).
Movies have deteriorated drastically over the last ten years, but this is in no way your SJW style film.
Firstly, there’s only two movies, not “the other two.” So you’ve possibly watched half, which makes your criticisms ill-informed.
You’ve also ignored my points on good man, competent men, evil women and motherhood; all things that SJWs viciously hate.
As I said originally, you’re just reaching. Don’t like a strong female lead? Fine, but be honest about it. Don’t try and insinuate it’s in the vein of current_year politics.
Which is why I said, “your opinion is ill informed.” It sounds like you’ve watched a fight or two and know nothing about the film.
You ignore everything else I’ve said- specifically, the portrayals of the men and evil women- to focus on “by the power of my vagina.”
Reach, pure and simple.
It’s all in the story, now you’re being silly.
She’s a super skilled elite assassin trained by a ferocious warrior monk, whose sole motive is revenge. If you don’t like that, fine, but stop with the Mary Sue insinuation. You just sound ignorant.
Kill Bill was fun as a one time watch but I have zero interest in ever watching them again for some of the reasons you mentioned. I'd only add that most of her big guy fights are quick (and some would argue bullshit like drunk Bill droning on for ten minutes then suiciding himself rather than give us a proper fight).
The epic and beautiful fights are always woman to woman. Bud gets killed in a lame way as well, a guy part of the crew but didn't get a chance to shine at all (other than popping the main character when she tried to break into his house). Not even the martial arts master gets a fight and dies via poison.
I've been watching through the mid-'90s revival of The Outer Limits. I'm on season 5 I think. The first few seasons were mostly just cheesy low-budget sci-fi except for one in season one that was specifically "men are bad and preventing women from reaching their magical potential" garbage.
I'd estimate that half of the episodes in this season have had either an abusive father/husband that's a character in the story or mentioned in the story. In some cases, it has no actual bearing on the story. There have been zero abusive mothers/wives (except for a robot ... sort of). There have been multiple stories with alien/human contact where the overreacting men end up starting a war over the objections of the brave, understanding woman.
One S5 episode had a post-apocalyptic commune where all men had been wiped out by a virus, and a military dude gets out of cryogenic storage and arrives at the commune. 10 minutes in I wanted to bail because I figured "this is just an entire men bad" episode, but there were multiple potential story threads (women were jealous of each other over his attention, another commune forces rationing and taking food, he's shown to be helpful to the commune despite the old cunt's admonitions of "women create, men only destroy!", etc.) but at the end none of those get resolved. The other commune attacks him because he's trying to restore power to his commune. He defends himself (and accidentally kills his allies in the process because of course) and then has to be put back in cryogenic storage because "man bad."
I did bail on two of like the last 3 episodes I started: the first was about a woman (abusive father, husband was revealed to be abusive and also impotent because of course) in a fertility clinic who was given a clone of Jesus to carry. I bailed when the female fertility doctor started lecturing the (abusive) male pastor/geneticist (yep!) about how she now had proof that Jesus was just a telekinetic dude (stupid Christian, you're worshipping a genetic freak, not the son of god! Ha!) Two episodes later opened in a WW2 concentration camp with the evil Nazis gleefully killing their prisoners, and then cut to the present where some dude appears to be hunting down said Nazis. I bailed there because I'm not interested in watching Jewish revenge porn in my sci fi.
This shit has been going on for decades. Back in the early/mid '90s I always just thought to myself, "well the bad guy has to be a white man because everybody else would throw a fit about negative stereotypes and besides, men are pretty abusive, right?" But no, it's actual malice towards specifically white people and even more specifically white men, and no, men are not significantly different than women when it comes to abuse.
I liked the 90s Outer Limits for the most part. I guess since I wasn’t hearing about that stuff constantly I didn’t notice. It wasn’t until the 2000s did I realize the “white man bad” push going on but looking back I can definitely remember feminist messaging as well. Although the Jesus episode you refer to doesn’t surprise me. I do remember that being something I would’ve rolled my eyes at.
Fringe, Stargate, all those cop shows with female side kicks. Nineties entertainment chronicled the introduction of females occupying roles in male dominated professions: cops, firefighters, first responders, doctors, lawyers, etc.
Ally McBeal captured the zeitgeist of that time period and foretold what was going to happen in the decades to come, including the cringe trender mania, single childless ladies, feminist chauvinism, strained gender politics in the work place, etc.
Another show was 'Sex In The City'.
I just saw Sex in the City as something marketed to women which is fine as long as you can market stuff to men. Like when I was a kid my dad watched A-Team and Magnum PI. Those are definitely shows that appeal to a male audience. I’m actually watching Stargate. Just finished first season
Sex in the City sold a lifestyle to women and the author has since regretted certain aspects as it, e.g. being childless. Don't recall The A-Team or Magnum P.I. selling a lifestyle.
Both shows didn't have the nu-females involved, by the way.
I’ve never seen sex in the city. I assume you mean the idea of them just having a bunch of sex and not getting married? I dont care for that either.
No they didn’t. I remember hearing someone describe the A-Team as the last show purely for guys. I’m also finding myself enjoying shows that I laughed at my grandmother for watching like Little House on the Prairie or The Waltons
Yeah, I didn't watch it regularly but it was something I'd catch occasionally and I like low-budget sci-fi.
The race stuff has mostly been a non-issue; in fact, the few episodes that feature non-white people haven't played up race at all, except for the standard "diversity writing" where you know who will be the sympathetic/correct characters just by the color of their skin. In fact, one of the reasons I kept watching the commune episode was because there was an interracial lesbian relationship that looked like it was headed in the direction of the black chick being overly possessive and the antagonist of the episode. Instead I'm pretty sure she was one of the ones that ended up dying due to The Bad Man's ineptitude.
Ok now I’m starting to remember that episode. Turns out the lady had been in a relationship with that guy or something? I remember there was some sort of twist with the founder of the commune
Good memory, yeah. The old "men only destroy" woman had been the girlfriend of the frozen guy 40 years earlier, even still carrying a locket with his picture.
Which just made me think, "wow, how awful was she that he'd have been willing to ditch her for an experimental cryogenic freezing process?" I'm pretty sure that's not what the authors expected me to take away from the story though.
There was an episode in that series that highlighted stupid women and men that simp for them.
It's after a nuclear apocalypse and they are military officers in bunkers. The girl is in her bunker, and there's two dudes in another bunker. I think the girl had a crewmate that went outside where the radiation is supposedly lethal and that's why she's alone. One of the two dudes develops feelings for the girl over their radio chats.
The girl can swear she hears living people outside and ignores the two guys warnings and leaves her bunker. They hear screaming and the radio cuts off.
Pretty soon the girl shows up outside of the guys bunker (which is miles away) and convinces the guy who is simping for her to open the door and go outside. The other dude tries to stop him and immediately slams door shut behind him to protect himself.
Turns out all the "survivors" are some kind of vampire, and the girl and her simp buddy are turned. The episode ends with the last human guy in his bunker and his former crewmate is trying every code on the door starting with 0001. He tells the last human that he's got infinite time to keep trying until he gets in and you see the human guy sink down in his chair because he knows the vampire is right.
Telekinesis was never a power I noticed attributed to Jesus. The closest thing I remember is the rock on Jesus' tomb moving, but I always figured that was attributed to God, at that point, to the extent that that distinction matters. God definitely has telekinesis attributed to him at various points in the Bible. Though, since he's not corporeal, we probably don't think about it like that.
The story (spoilers!) was basically that some sort of telekinetic ability was allowing the unborn Jesus clone to manipulate objects around his mom, and that it was somehow genetic (that nobody outside of Jesus had before or since ... writers really don't understand evolution), therefore not supernatural/god.
Ignoring the fact that telekinesis would be a supernatural ability to begin with, which could have just as easily been granted by a god. And yeah, it really doesn't make much sense because Jesus wasn't moving things around with his mind in the Bible to my knowledge.
I really thought the spoilers were going to be for the biblical account, lol
I'm not even sure if self levitation (walking on water) is telekinesis. This is the kind of shit that bothers me.
Women are not fully developed adults, they're something between adolescents and adults and have not developed emotional self-control, which is why this feminist is projecting her own lack of maturity here. Projection is a constant in the mental illness known as leftism.
The exact opposite of this is true. An adult male who acts like a child will quickly be put in his place, by men, women, law enforcement, the internet - everyone. Meanwhile women can persist in throwing tantrums until they hit menopause because every aspect of our society enables this. Example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5A-qd2TBkyM
I'd actually say that childishness in normal in basically all segments of society as the government has sought to infantilize people as it expands it's power. The female character can talk shit all she wants about men being children, but women are also children. It's probably why the elites are pedophiles.
Neoteny gone wild.
It's the result of overdomestication.
You could argue in the other direction, too, and point out how absolutely coddled women are, and how they demand that treatment. The idea of women calling men out on childish behavior is quite something. Which, for the record, is not to say men can't be absolute irresponsible dipshits, or women can't be mature and responsible. But if we're talking society-wide aggregate, women are by far the ones given more leeway and not just allowed, but expected, to exhibit childish behavior.
Because maybe I didn't grow up privileged and I'm just speaking from my anecdote, I think I noticed the society in general doesn't give a shit about man unless he has something to offer long before everybody see now. You're worse than garbage if you have nothing, having some life-debilitating disorders aren't good excuses why you have no skills. You'd better pull by your bootstraps and make yourself useful. At least that's what I saw real time the western society judges male.
It doesn't matter if you hit the rock bottom, western society doesn't give a shit about you. Even before the unhinged politics came to the forefront, the world was already pretty harsh especially at someone that lack self-confidence they deem as a creep or incel. I noticed it's not just women that are cold, most men couldn't sympathise and they will not hesitate to take advantage of you and your naivete.
That's why I can ignore these intentional hostilities of today towards men, I already saw the worst this society offered and I can detect if someone's goddamn sociopath or snake with eagle eyes just by watching them speak. That's why MGTOW is the most effective strategy, completely ghosting these hostilities. And just yesterday, I wrote something like this. Outright ignoring them is the way to go. This is why most of what I consume is Japanese entertainment for a very long time even though I had to learn the language that I cannot even use as conversation at all. Maybe that's why I grew to despise the west, this same harsh western society goes extra miles and above to be accommodating to the tranny freaks who are usually pedos or perverts or both.
Also in the dating world as an average at best looking guy you really see your value too. I’ve gotten more into anime recently and have been buying more Manga.
As in the words Raging Golden Eagle, why give your money to the people that hate you? Completely ignore the western entertainment except when you know the developer is completely apolitical like Factorio developers. My advice is for people that want to read manga or anime is to learn some Japanese because official translations are not trustworthy, even if you have to pay for that, these unhinged sycophants got their tentacles on the localisation as well. They don't give a shit if their translation is unprofessional.
Or if they're explicitly on our side, like the guys behind Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
I recently tried watching Gundam Turn A. I probably should have quit when I had a hard time figuring out in the first episode if the character was supposed to be male or female (spoiler: it's male, I guess). I should have quit when they started using both male and female names for the same character. I finally did quit when they made an entire episode about dressing this (male) character in high heels and an evening gown. Like you said, 15 years ago, I probably would have just thought it was Japan being weird and kept on going for the story, but my tolerance for troonery is at zero right now. I can't un-see the globohomo propaganda.
I have zero tolerance now too. Like I used to not mind a gay character here or there or there was a time when race were gender swaps weren’t to be expected
Loran Cehack is only called Laura Rolla consistently by Guin Lineford, a gay, rich, pedophile who tries to sell out his planet for personal wealth. Turn A is directed and written by Yoshiyuki Tomino whose last foray into directing Gundam at that point had been Victory Gundam which was essentially Earth Militias And Military Vs Space Feminazis Led By Literal Brain Damaged Woman Who Came Up With Her Ideology After Oxygen Deprivation. I'm sorry that you see a character who's written to be despicable doing things that you consider to be despicable and drop the show. Also, if you couldn't Loran was a dude in that first episode where he spends a good third of it naked don't know what to say.
I get this weird feeling that they ran out of ideas in 2005, and decided to just go insane with what they thought worked before.
Sounds pretty solid
It's everywhere. I was playing Dredge (a fucking fishing game) and all the "hard labor" jobs are women. Then, I ran across a woman researcher, and she lamented how she was the only female in her science class, several years running.
Fuck off with your goddamn feminist politics, it sucks because it's a fun game otherwise.
Wow! In a fishing game? What is the objective of the game?
You're supposed to collect these relics to further uncover the mystery of what is going on with this group of islands and why there is this creepy fog and horrible creatures out at night
Sounds interesting but leave it to the time we live in to inject a female scientist whining about lack of female scientists
Yea at that moment I wished it was an RPG so I could be like, "No one fucking asked".
I watched a Netflix movie. I was kinda sick, and I thought it would be educational about the hardships of being black in New York city in the 90s. Ok so anyways I find out that being a black woman especially in the 90s and on NYC is really hard. She only ever worked because she was forced to as part of probation. The series of (criminal) men she had in and out of her life, and the negative associated consequences never seemed to be her fault.
I do think that legit people on the ground see stealing as doing the same thing as they do on Wall Street but maybe more honestly. The problem is they're not wrong. But the fact is, right or wrong, the WS guys are not gonna go to jail. So it's up to the powerless to not commit crimes they can't get away with.
Good point. Also being black in New York City be hard. Same challenges as anyone else but for someone with that mentality I’m sure they look to be oppressed or persecuted
Where it lost me is the implication that her continued criminality was not her fault but the system's. And as I mentioned, her continued need to be attached to men whose jobs appeared to be criminal. She would not stop committing crimes and therefore getting sent to jail, and her absence from her children's lives was impactful. Not to mention the revolving cast of "father" figures who all eventually moved on.
In Europe- 10 million men had to die in WW1 for the right to vote.
Within a decade women got the right to vote from merely complaining and bitching.
And I still have Super Force stuck in my head.
https://youtu.be/wxLMOBmtE78
I didn't make it through the first season of Mayans right after finishing off the entire SoA series.
Not sure why. Just didn't hook me the same way.
Not as good as SOA but it was pretty good. If you ever have time you should check it out. No rush though
It took me until 2016 Ghostbusters but I had already been a little annoyed by the push starting for girls in gaming and comics but seeing the shill media trying to say “the original wasn’t that popular” woke me up. Then after last Jedi we had “Empire wasn’t popular at first”. Should go without saying but I never had an issue with female characters before. As a big Star Wars EU guy Jaina Solo is one of my favorites but I do take exception to ruining things that appeal to men or forcing women into male hobbies. I’ve been collecting comic books all my life and they have turned into women sitting around taking about feelings. Now there is an audience for that but it sure ain’t actual comic book readers
9 was probably the most disappointing movie of my teenage years. I remember thinking it was going to be so cool and then it just…wasn’t.