It's always seemed like an insult to me. What gets me is the weirdo beta soys who are ok with it. I saw one of them in London being interviewed on the Lotus Eaters podcast. "Are you someone who strongly identifies as male or female?" "Uh, yeah I'm just a cis male but I'm totally ok with transgender people." I just about puked.
Don't forget all that 'die cis scum' messagingput out by these clowns. The troon brigade absolutely intends these terms to be used as slurs against normal people too, often accompanied by violent fantasizing.
Interestingly enough, that's also how I feel about "bub." I was called that once, and I did not take it well. Because the only person I'd ever heard use that was Wolverine, towards people he is not exactly acting friendly with.
Interesting. I've only had one guy call me that (it may have been "bubs", I don't remember), but the context made it obvious that it was friendly. I can certainly see the term being used in a hostile way as well. Cis is always used with the intention of othering the target, so there's no ambiguity for that term.
Most words can be said in a positive or negative way. Nimrod was an erudite scholar, but calling someone Nimrod nowadays will likely get a hostile reaction thanks to Bugs Bunny of all people.
He's probably the closest thing to a "kinda reasonable" centrist with common sense and real power. Don't exactly count on him as being "on your side," but don't immediately dismiss him as your worst enemy if you majorly disagree with something (depending on the issue).
I don't think dismissing him as our worst enemy is the right approach, but it's fair to point out the limits of his approach to deshitifying Twitter when he straight up confirms that saying trannies deserve to die is still bannable. Elon is obviously better than butt boy Dorsey but the improvements are very scattershot.
Nah don't expect anyone to be aligned to me 100%, I'm unfortunately getting used to people being cartoonishly evil, just hurting people for the sake of inflicting pain
He claims to be a free speech absolutist while very clearly not being one. We should celebrate the wins we get but he's clearly not living up to the hopes some of the more naive people on our side had or even his own standards.
Using "cis" unironically is part of the Church of Girl Dick's liturgy. They're not going to stop using it, especially at the behest of a blasphemer like Elon. You're correct that the next few weeks will be quite fun, however.
He's a marketeer. He does what keeps him fresh in the public's mind. He cares about keeping the goodwill of the actual masses, so he says tidbits like these.
Twitter does belong to Musk and his investors, meaning they are within their rights to act with their property as they see fit. But Musk has often adopted the moral high ground of untrammeled free speech in his justification for buying the platform. In this context, applying new prohibitions on certain terms could be seen as contradictory to this claim.
Not taking away old prohibitions on certain terms could be seen as contradictory too. Take your pick then. We can allow nigger, faggot, tranny, etc., right? Free speech, right? I don't want to be called cis any more than they want to be called fags.
I think whatever they call standards are about as consistent as what you'd get from a toddler. Fitting I guess, most have the reasoning ability of a toddler.
That's like saying you love unicorns or something. Leftoids only do or say whatever they think will benefit them or harm whoever they think is their enemy.
They complained about him being pro free speech, and now that he's restricting speech they're also complaining. They're just mad because they're not running the show anymore.
Exactly. I'd be perfectly happy to let those pedos use their slur if we could use ours. But since that's not in the cards I'm fine with Elon making them follow their own retarded rules.
I want to see him stay quiet. Just for a little while. Juuuuuist long enough to give the social-justards hope. And then fire her and replace her with someone on par with Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles.
EDIT: And then introduce a sitewide substitution filter that replaces "cis" with "normal" or "real."
Elon is just holding them to their own retarded standards. They claim absolute power to decide what labels are applied to them, and Elon is just taking this to its logical conclusion by allowing normal people the same privilege.
I'm all for enforcing beliefs onto themselves. Everyone who thinks guns should be illegal should not be allowed to have guns then! lmao. Don't believe in free speech? Then no free speech for you.
makes those clowns feel like they have power by labeling everyone
Which is what they want of course. One time I found a thread where a bunch of troons were dumping on the sigma male concept. Some poor bastard pointed out that their ideology requires them to respect everyone's labels, including the sigma male label and they jumped down his throat.
But while the Council is gone, it seems as if the tech tycoon himself is deciding what will be considered hate speech on the site based on his own private views.
As opposed to other people's private views? Morons
Good. The use of this prefix is intended to normalize necromorphs.
And pathologize normal people.
Yep. I refuse to say “cis”
The people those terms supposedly refer to never consented to being referred to as such. Yes, they're definitely slurs.
It's always seemed like an insult to me. What gets me is the weirdo beta soys who are ok with it. I saw one of them in London being interviewed on the Lotus Eaters podcast. "Are you someone who strongly identifies as male or female?" "Uh, yeah I'm just a cis male but I'm totally ok with transgender people." I just about puked.
It's like if a black guy called himself a nigger with a hard r.
Was it Leo? I hate that degenerate retard.
Don't forget all that 'die cis scum' messaging put out by these clowns. The troon brigade absolutely intends these terms to be used as slurs against normal people too, often accompanied by violent fantasizing.
Elon also pointed out that the person who started to use cis was a creepy german pedo sexologist.
Which one? I was thinking John Money but he was a Kiwi I think.
its in the top reply if you click the tweet
They are also never used to just refer to normal people but always in a negative or an attack against normal people.
Interestingly enough, that's also how I feel about "bub." I was called that once, and I did not take it well. Because the only person I'd ever heard use that was Wolverine, towards people he is not exactly acting friendly with.
Exactly . If a term is always used to refer to someone negatively you can’t claim it’s not a slur
Interesting. I've only had one guy call me that (it may have been "bubs", I don't remember), but the context made it obvious that it was friendly. I can certainly see the term being used in a hostile way as well. Cis is always used with the intention of othering the target, so there's no ambiguity for that term.
Most words can be said in a positive or negative way. Nimrod was an erudite scholar, but calling someone Nimrod nowadays will likely get a hostile reaction thanks to Bugs Bunny of all people.
This is why I can't get a full read on Elon, sometimes he makes dumb decisions then he gives us gold like this.
Anyway this'll be fun as it takes a few weeks for npc updating so they're fuming trying to find a new derogatory term for normal people.
He's probably the closest thing to a "kinda reasonable" centrist with common sense and real power. Don't exactly count on him as being "on your side," but don't immediately dismiss him as your worst enemy if you majorly disagree with something (depending on the issue).
I don't think dismissing him as our worst enemy is the right approach, but it's fair to point out the limits of his approach to deshitifying Twitter when he straight up confirms that saying trannies deserve to die is still bannable. Elon is obviously better than butt boy Dorsey but the improvements are very scattershot.
They really want 'normal' itself to be derogatory, but they viscerally fear the back-splash of using such a word correctly.
It's almost like ... people have different priorities, opinions, and beliefs from each other, that lead them to act in different ways?
If you expect (your idea of) perfection from anyone (including yourself), you're going to be disappointed.
Different priorities and blatant inconsistencies are different things. Musk certainly has different priorities, but he's also inconsistent as hell.
Nah don't expect anyone to be aligned to me 100%, I'm unfortunately getting used to people being cartoonishly evil, just hurting people for the sake of inflicting pain
He claims to be a free speech absolutist while very clearly not being one. We should celebrate the wins we get but he's clearly not living up to the hopes some of the more naive people on our side had or even his own standards.
Using "cis" unironically is part of the Church of Girl Dick's liturgy. They're not going to stop using it, especially at the behest of a blasphemer like Elon. You're correct that the next few weeks will be quite fun, however.
He's a marketeer. He does what keeps him fresh in the public's mind. He cares about keeping the goodwill of the actual masses, so he says tidbits like these.
Not taking away old prohibitions on certain terms could be seen as contradictory too. Take your pick then. We can allow nigger, faggot, tranny, etc., right? Free speech, right? I don't want to be called cis any more than they want to be called fags.
And NOW they think he's being hypocritical but not because he kept Alex Jones banned? Gotta love the left's standards.
I think whatever they call standards are about as consistent as what you'd get from a toddler. Fitting I guess, most have the reasoning ability of a toddler.
That's like saying you love unicorns or something. Leftoids only do or say whatever they think will benefit them or harm whoever they think is their enemy.
They complained about him being pro free speech, and now that he's restricting speech they're also complaining. They're just mad because they're not running the show anymore.
Exactly. I'd be perfectly happy to let those pedos use their slur if we could use ours. But since that's not in the cards I'm fine with Elon making them follow their own retarded rules.
If anything is a slur, this absolutely qualifies.
Has Klaus's new WEF minion started as CEO yet? It'll be interesting how fast she countermands this and what Elon's reaction will be.
I want to see him stay quiet. Just for a little while. Juuuuuist long enough to give the social-justards hope. And then fire her and replace her with someone on par with Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles.
EDIT: And then introduce a sitewide substitution filter that replaces "cis" with "normal" or "real."
Good. 'Cis' should only be used in an organic chemistry context and there's no such thing as 'cisgender'.
Our old pal Rachel Gilmore is having one: https://web.archive.org/web/20230621163844/https://twitter.com/atRachelGilmore/status/1671506476379041793
All slurs are made up, you stupid cunt.
I thought you wanted hate speech banned on social media?
Elon is just holding them to their own retarded standards. They claim absolute power to decide what labels are applied to them, and Elon is just taking this to its logical conclusion by allowing normal people the same privilege.
Lol. I prefer free speech, but holding Leftists to their own retarded standarts might help force them to back-off after acceleration.
I'm all for enforcing beliefs onto themselves. Everyone who thinks guns should be illegal should not be allowed to have guns then! lmao. Don't believe in free speech? Then no free speech for you.
I do absolutely despise that term, it sounds disgusting and makes those clowns feel like they have power by labeling everyone
Which is what they want of course. One time I found a thread where a bunch of troons were dumping on the sigma male concept. Some poor bastard pointed out that their ideology requires them to respect everyone's labels, including the sigma male label and they jumped down his throat.
HATE SPEECH IS NOT FREE SPEECH
HARASSMENT IS NOT OK
SLURS ARE CYBERVIOLENCE
As opposed to other people's private views? Morons
Yeah. Leftist keeps redifining what is normal. They think lgbt is normal and everything else is "boring".
based, they always have been