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– GamingTheSystem-01 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

One of the things AI is really good at is information laundering. If MS made a search engine that could index everyone's private documents, that would be an obvious violation. But if they train a neural network on private documents, suddenly there's just a magic box that "knows" everything.

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– TerpenoidTester 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Not only information laundering but trendspotting.

Looking at certain sites too often? Hobbies 'far right'? Congratulations, your 'helpful' AI is now a tool of the NSA, FBI, CIA and DOJ. It allows spying on every personal device, which is why Gates is making it impossible not to upgrade.

My laptop got bricked for a month until I finally allowed Windows 11 to update and now I can't revert it. Microsoft literally locked me out of functionality until I updated after months or rejecting it.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Imagine just up and taking this kind of abuse instead of just running Linux.

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– alucard13mmfmj 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Same thing happened to me like 5 years ago. Windows 7 update bricked my computer. It was a 4790k, so i went and upgraded to 9900k and upgraded to win 10 as well.

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– Ender910 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yup, this is precisely what I was worried about when I started delving into some AI-document summarizing software. Open-source and self-hosted, with extra security precautions, I have absolutely no worries. I can move the saved data into some inaccessible location when it's not in use, only use it with Internet access disabled, firewall lock things, etc.

But anything requiring or automating Internet connectivity or cloud access is completely off the table and dangerous as hell. Even more-so when it's being managed by a company with everything to gain by accumulating that data for their own uses or to sell off to others.

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– Vebent 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have a file server at home that I keep personal documents on. Right now it’s running Windows 10 and I use a 3rd party firewall program on it. Do you know what Windows services I need to block to keep it from phoning home?

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– Ender910 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

For Windows 11? Not a clue. I've not gotten around to researching too in depth into what I'd need to tackle if I had to switch to Windows 11, but after getting past the nefarious shit of Windows 10 I feel confident that it wouldn't be too challenging to keep Windows 11 in line.

Plus, the reality is that "most" of these potentially draconian features that get embedded into the OS are not typically designed for full control and effect. Aside from Windows update and Windows security, it's "usually" pretty easy to lock down any scheduled processes and keep them from running.

Back to your main question though, I'm guessing that Windows will have any such features configured (by default) around scanning and processing common document directories under the user directory. Not that I'd count on that to necessarily be the case in the end, but it is conducive to how MS typically runs things. It's mostly just something where you'll have to wait and see exactly how it's implemented to know how for sure how to disable it.

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– bamboozler1 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

I fucking called this shit, some months ago…

They ain’t giving up, and it’s only getting worse, because fucking Joe Public just keeps eating this shit up…

FFS…

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– bamboozler1 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

YCombinator: “And here’s why that’s a good thing”

No, you stupid techie fucks, decreased choice and freedom is not a “good thing…

The fuck is happening? It’s like the “normal” internet has just become a bunch of clapping seals who lap up whatever bullshit the tech companies and bloggers feed them, and then this somehow filters down to normal conversations…

I sometimes have to remind myself that I am not the crazy one, for thinking this is not ok…

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– NoEyesNoGroin 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

WANT TO COMPLETELY FIX YOUR ERODING DIGITAL PRIVACY? SWITCH YOUR COMPUTERS FROM WINDOWS TO LINUX!

Come now.

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– MargarineMongoose 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Does Linux have good UX design yet or is Git still indicative of the Linux ecosystem's approach to users?

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– NoEyesNoGroin 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Desktop Lunix is 100 different UX designs on top of 1000 semi-functional desktop OSs composed of 10000 pieces of software connected together like spaghetti.

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– deleted 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's going to be easier for autists to find a way to fuck with and possibly block Windows 11's spying than it is for me to install New Vegas on a Linux machine.

I've got five bucks that says all it takes is a quick registry hack that's all of about three lines of Powershell that any idiot can run.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– FutaCumDiet 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The average normie uses their desktop computer as a bootloader for a web browser.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Christ, you would think that there would be a combination that's functional for those of us who are decently tech literate but not fucking autists.

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– RaisingPhoenix 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The problem is making it compatible for every windows program is not as easy as people might think.

A game designed for linux, will work fine on linux, but will fail horribly on windows (almost assuredly). A game designed for windows, will work fine on windows, but will probably fail on linux.

The problem is everything is designed to work with windows, and until that changes, there is pretty much nothing to autists can do except screech at those continuing to design things for windows.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

So every bit the mess it was when I last tried it back in 2007 with no improvement whatsoever.

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– tappydans 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. It’s just as bad. I use Mac and Linux exclusively. Linux is a shitshow, no matter the distribution.

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– MLGS 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's significantly better than it was in 2007 but nowhere near as good as Windows/Android/iOS and never will be.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This is approximately the same line that was being fed to me back in 2007 when Ubuntu was supposed to be the distro that finally made Linux compete with with the Windows desktop experience.

Spoilers: It did not.

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– MLGS 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, that's what the second part of my one sentence post said.

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– FutaCumDiet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And Windows isn't?

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– Assassin47 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's only "easy" to use because of prior knowledge of UI patterns that almost everyone has thanks to Windows' historical market share. It's not naturally intuitive. I have seen lifelong Apple users (before OSX) that were completely lost on a Windows PC until they got used to it.

Obviously I'm not defending any particular Linux DE here, but I haven't done any research on them either.

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– FutaCumDiet 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's only "easy" to use because of prior knowledge of UI patterns that almost everyone has thanks to Windows' historical market share.

Seriously, you think people would save the shit about "relearning how to use an OS" when Windows changes shit in every mainline release. Remember how Windows 8 removed the start menu and replaced it with that fucking tiles bullshit? Now you have Windows 11 centering your icons in the task bar instead of having them left-justified. "Oh, but it's only one thing you have to change". Oh, but I thought that Windows "works out of the box". Every single excuse people make to defend Windows is the words of a battered house wife: "You don't know him like I know him! I can't live without him! I can fix him! He loooooooooves me!"

No one comes out of the womb knowing how to drive a car, do basic math, or read basic words.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
... continue reading thread?
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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm far more hostile about the changes they're making to the administrative tool set. If I weren't already balls deep in Powershell the constant reshuffling of all the admin interfaces would make me shit a brick.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I have never, ever been in a position where unplugging a USB device bricked my Windows installation. Meanwhile, if a USB storage device on my laptop running Mint gets unplugged without being dismounted (which happens, it's a laptop), I better start backing shit up because that installation is now ruined. Next time I try to boot, it just won't.

When I tell Linux creatures this story, they act like I'm just making shit up, or I must just be retarded, as if it's my first time using a computer and I haven't extensively tested this for my own sake. That Linux has real issues is beyond them.

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– FutaCumDiet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

if a USB storage device on my laptop running Mint gets unplugged without being dismounted (which happens, it's a laptop)

What are you doing at the time? Saying "when a USB gets unplugged, my installation is ruined" is not enough information to go off of.

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– FutaCumDiet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Literally everyone says Windows works until you have to do anything more basic than open a web browser. Popular Linux distros literally come with a graphical software manager that allows you to install programs without even opening a web browser. You're telling me that opening a Software Manager and clicking download is easier than having to find the webpage for the program, find the executable, download the executable, run the executable, and sometime have to restart your entire operating system?

Windows 11 literally gets on stage talking about how "no one else" has done fucking window tiling and acts like adding tabs to browsers is a big deal. Meanwhile, Linux DEs have had that shit for years. They even allow you to open files and folders with a single click. Can't wait for Microsoft to steal that so everyone can blast fucking rope about "how well made Windows is, you goys!"

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– ailurus 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The other (increasing) issue with Linux is that a lot of the distros (along with other open source projects) is getting taken over by the Woke crowd. openSUSE, for example, recently had a chunk of their mailing list chewing a guy out for asking why a rainbow icon was needed for the upcoming month of degeneracy, and one of the board members literally said people who don't like rainbow flags are rotten flesh who need to be cut out

Microsoft collecting all my data is bad. But at least Microsoft just wants my money, not my head.

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– CaptainDudeguy 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Phew, boy am I glad I didn't install Windows 11. I thought Windows 10 was bad but SHEESH, 11 is a nightmare. What's next? Will Windows 12 only allow you to open websites, apps and files that it deems acceptable? Hell, will it delete your files if it finds them to be harmful to the LGBTBBQ?

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– bloodguard 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

At this point if you're still using windows you kind of deserve to be fucked around with by Bill Gates.

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– SparkMandrill83 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Bro, I have a life, I aint got time to learn any other OS. Some Elon-esque autist needs to make a privacy focused competitor. They'd make millions

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– BlueDrache 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_47_CFR_Part_15

There's a few hurdles in the way.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yea I figured

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– FutaCumDiet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, how dare you be expected to learn a skill! That takes away precious hours away from watching Soyflix and eating bugs!

You don't been to be "some kind of autist" to use Linux. You just need to stop being lazy and making excuses for consuming the goy slop.

The amount of fucking copium from people telling me why they need a proprietary operating system from a company feeding them ads through their file manager for the sole purpose of either browsing their data harvesting social media or live service games with anticheat that doesn't work so they can spend $20 on a single skin is unfuckingreal.

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– FutaCumDiet 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It won't because I use Linux, bitch. Time for modded Skyrim! 😂

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– DontDoxMeBreaux 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I've already mostly switched to Linux. Technically it's a dual boot with Windows 10 because there are just some games/mods that I can't get to work in Linux...but I physically remove my ethernet cable when I boot into Windows 10.

That's how paranoid Microsoft has made me with their shit.

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– rantanon9145 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

did you already tried to " bootstrap" your mods with https://usebottles.com ? Thats how i got most of my mods running.

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– DontDoxMeBreaux 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nope, I'd never heard of that. Thanks, I'll give it a shot!

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– rantanon9145 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just reminder that "interlinked" mods can be a massive pain in the ass, thanks to how wine/proton "emulates" a "C:" partiton. - also, have fun trying to get the Fallout 4 Script Extendor to run.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Do you use Bottles? It's been a complete waste of time for me and nothing at all works.

I've had better luck running Windows apps in Lutris, even if it wasn't a game.

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– rantanon9145 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, I use bottles. But to be fair, if you can run games using the Heroic launcher, you should use that. Less painful, and works just as well.

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– FutaCumDiet 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I personally just don't bother since the only games that Linux can't run is bullshit like Destiny 2 and Rainbow Six Seige.

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– rantanon9145 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

2025

Windows 10 LTSC gets support up until 2027 (you can get it from the mydigitallife forums), and Windows 10 LTSC IoT (Internet of Things, for ATMs and other devices that need long-term support) get supported up until 2032.

But honestly, until then win32s support of Proton is probably better than Windows itself.

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– MLGS 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

There are no words to express how thankful we need to be to Gaben for making Proton exist and work as well as it does.

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