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This lib worship of human life in the abstract is retarded. Some humans have negative value. Some property has extraordinary positive value. The idea that the worst human life is still somehow more sacred than the most valuable & irreplaceable property isn't serious. It's childish in its refusal to accept reality.
And it's obvious why the libs talk this way: they think it makes them more virtuous. They don't even believe it, either, since if some white MAGA guy burned down a bunch of black people's houses they'd be calling for his execution. Hell, they do that even without the burning of the houses.
Communists will never understand value because to apply value would shatter their current cognitive dissonance. It’s like I’ve posted before, if theory of relativity is accurate insofar as your time has value, then your property is the accumulated sum of your actual life. This means that your property can be more valuable than another’s life, that the loss of it can cause more damage than being shot or stabbed, as all of these incur cost on you either in time, money, or both. The left and bureaucracy operate on a system of theft, so if the theory of relativity was actually applied to their actions, they would have long forfeited their lives because their cost/ theft is astronomically higher that the value of a life.
They understand it perfectly fine. You just don't understand how they value things.
Therefore, they are allowed, morally, to kill you and steal your property; while telling you that you have no right to kill anyone stealing your property.
Medieval canon law prescribed a penance for killing robbers, because they too are made in the image of god. It never questioned your right to defend yourself and your property though.
I'd take the Sistine Chapel over a career criminal like George Floyd.
The libs would burn down the Sistine Chapel just so they could build a new cathedral to worship Saint Floyd.
If medieval Europe had blacks, methinks the law might have been different.
Let's not forget about Notre Dame.
Medieval Europe was extraordinarily chaotic and probably had higher murder/crime rates than Baltimore, if modern day reconstructions are to be believed (a big if).
Medieval law also stated "more than 30 thieves is an army;" every city in America would qualify as being under warlord occupation.
Right, comes down to whether or not you'd rather live next to 100 white ex-marines or 100 dancing black crackheads.
Rhetorical question, really.
Retired Marines. You only get exed if you're kicked out.
I want to disagree with you based on my principles but it's just not realistic. E.g., antibiotics are more important than child molesters.
Also, "right to live?" Is that something people have? Then why does everyone die?
I think this guy's sacrosanct attitude on human life is just a way for him to establish himself as a "better person" than you and the other commenters. His whole spiel is him trying to demonstrate superiority through virtue. Absolute beta.
Yes. Lib virtue signaling.
Babies don't seem to have an inherent right to live if modern libs are to be believed.
Liberals are tarded and should be ridiculed without exception.
It's not that my TV is worth more than a human being, it's that people who steal TVs are a net drain on society, and you can't have both.
It is retarded but, as you pointed out, they're not actually talking about the value of human life.
Same people that will bitch about high prices and scream for more free stuff as if it paying for that doesn't come from somewhere. Insurance isn't free.
They value breathing, eating, and shitting way too much too. It's not living it's being alive. They want a world where everyone is statistically alive but has no reason to want to live.
communism
no wonder they pine for it
Bring a cherrypicker so we can steal his roof.
You could just put him to work, he looks like does plenty of cherry picking already.
You should know better than to expect intellectual consistency from someone with a profile picture like that.
Or any liberal for that matter. Their ideology is founded on numerous lies, so to be a leftist requires being comfortable with being a hypocrite.
Their "ideology" is doing or saying whatever it takes to win, even if it means they contradict something they did or said just seconds before. This image is a prime example of that.
This is one of those extremely frustrating arguments, because even though it's very simple, they'll never even acknowledge your point, much less agree with it.
Yes, absolutely: Burglary alone doesn't warrant public execution or death in general. That's different from someone defending themselves from a violent thug who breaks into their home though. It's not about property itself being more valuable than a human life. It's about violent criminals voluntarily (insofar as some of these lunatics have free will) putting themselves in positions where lethal force in self defense is on the table.
They didn't value their own life. If you break into my house, even if "just" to steal my television...you're the one undervaluing your life, not me. For all I know, this lunatic wants to rape/torture/murder me and/or my family. You're in my house being an asshole without an invitation? It's open season, you piece of shit. I don't want to kill anyone, but I'll damn well defend myself, my family, and - yes! - my property, if I have to.
I'm not sure if libs really can't grasp this, or are just so conditioned they won't let themselves get off the talking points, even if they know deep down they're wrong.
No, I don't value property over human life. Other people can if they want, I'm not even saying it's wrong. But I damn well value my safety over a random thug's life. Fuck around, find out. Even if your crime - were you to actually be arrested and charged - would not receive the sentence of a death penalty...doesn't mean I wouldn't be within my rights to defend myself, including with lethal force. These are not the same scenario at all.
I know we all know, and I'm preaching to the choir here, but it pisses me off. It's the jackass burglar who is valuing property over their own life. Don't want to get "murdered?" Don't be in other peoples' houses, retard. These deaths are avoidable, and the killer is not the primary party at fault.
That's really the only thing that needs to be said. You can talk until you are blue in the face and they will simply disregard it all.
But all that matters is that you can never be certain what level of danger they are bringing and willing to stoop to. So you should defend yourself as if it is the worst one possible.
Wrong, burglary warrants immediate execution.
i value my cat's used litter over the life of every leftoid and their pet criminals COMBINED.
I'm sure the insurance will pay when you invite someone to take your stuff. Totally not risking getting caught for insurance fraud if you file an insurance claim
Jordan Neely would not even have been valuable as a slave in the 1700s, he was a net drain on society while alive and he will continue to damage New York even after he's gone like some kind of radioactive isotope. Niggers are 1000x worse than Chernobyl and Nagasaki combined.
Fundamentally, the idea that property is always worth more than life is wrong. We pretend that it's fine, and we pretend that insurance protects us, but it's a flat out lie we tell ourselves.
People kill each other over food. Not being fed is almost never an immediate threat to life, but people still kill because that food is absolutely worth more than your life to a starving man.
I like Active Self Protection on YouTube, to a degree, because they're normally good, but sometimes they have utterly terrible takes, and they will never tolerate the idea that any property is worth the life of any criminal. I'll give you an example:
Let's say Antifa decides that they want to fire-bomb your house... but they do it while you're not there. So you leave for work, and an hour later, 10 terrorists show up to have BLM-Antifa Soup Drive at your fucking home. The have 2 people who go around to steal all your belongings and set fire to your home, but the other 8 are armed security to protect the perimeter. Let's say you don't have a bank or home insurance, you're an "off the grid" kind of person who has a pile of gold burred in or around your house. When they burn and loot your home, you and your family will loose everything, including your life savings, and all of your belongings.
Understand that the law says that at most you are allowed to get into a fist-fight with Antifa's armed security that are there to protect the felony arson. If you attempt to win that fight by disarming them, they have a claim of self-defense in killing you in front of your family for trying to take the gun of the terrorists. In fact, we've already seen what happens when a BLM activist feels threatened with less than lethal force. Will that claim fly? It depends on the prosecutor. The chargest against Mr. Doloff were dropped.
I find that utterly immoral. "Just rely on a corporation or a bank to protect you, bro" is not acceptable, especially not from a Leftist who claims to hate capitalism. You should be allowed to use lethal force at some point in regards to property damage, particularly in loss of your life savings, home, or sole proprietorship from terrorists who will never in their lives have the capacity to pay you back for the damage they've done. You should absolutely be allowed to use lethal force to prevent property damage that would destroy you. Frankly, if we did have that, we could use it against the fucking banks too... which is why we don't.
People get shot over shoes, cars, disrespect, and all sorts of other things, and we know good and god damned well that nobody really believes that all life is so indispensable that it should never be taken under any property damage amount, even if the damage is over 100 trillion dollars. This "all human life must be preserved at the cost of literally all property or disruption" is bullshit. It's one step away from "It's just your kid bro, you have life insurance."
And we all know the people making this argument on the Left, already do not value our human lives over even the smallest inconvenience.
Property = Money = Work = Time = a piece of your life.
If someone burns a business you worked 20 years to establish, they didn't just destroy your property. They killed 20 years of your life which you are well within your rights to defend.
Natty bound is trolling a bit obviously, but even then the lefty here is actually making a somewhat more sensible version of the insurance argument than you usually see. He limits his statement to essentially, “my stuff is insured” which is a fact he’s in position to know. Usually lefties say “that’s what insurance is for!” after they’ve burned down the business of someone who did nothing other than happening to be in the same city as them, as an ex post facto rationalization for why it’s okay that they burned it down, and where they could not have known whether or to what level the place was insured. They certainly never call ahead and check!
And hell, this lefty even conceded that property crimes should be punished!!! Most “insurance-for!” lefties imply or just outright state that they think people should not be punished for rioting-related destruction. So I kinda gotta hand it to this leftist! We finally found one who has at least one ounce of sense! Mark this day on the calendar, and tell him what he’s accomplished before he starts clarifying that he assumed the hypothetical B&E committer was white, and that if he was black it’s not a crime in that case!
Thing is, the only string of logic these people follow is "YOU'S A BITCH!" and that you have money, therefore they're going to take it from you. It is not very likely that they have regard for you or your life - they have no such discretion or moral code, nor do they often have the IQ to process future-tense hypotheticals or empathy, and will more than likely harm or even kill you to achieve these ends. Imprisonment means fucking nothing to them and doing so (causing you or a loved one serious harm) would bring them a net positive in the form of clout.
We live in an entirely different dimension in terms of law and morality.
If I can't trust that you aren't going to pluck my fingers off and rape my family and you're breaking into my home at night, I am shooting you. End of story.
"Guys it is a crime to steal! So people won't do it!"
It do be like that
Seth Rogan tier retardation
People who talk about insurance coverage are always the ones who have never had to use insurance for anything above a pittance. Its just a magical thing that covers the full cost of everything you lose with no possible downside to yourself.
Which probably also speaks to their privilege, because only the wealthy could afford an insurance without a notable deductible to begin with.
He's right. Human life is sacred. But I'd like him to actually mean it, instead of:
Human life is sacred. Except for right wingers, fetuses, babies, infants, any child of a right winger, and also everyone I don't like.
Because you know that's what he means.
public execution works just fine.
they can't reoffend.
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