I bear no love at all for Nazis or Stormfags, but the children educated by Nazis weren't groomed into mutilating themselves and being the total basketcases that the modern 'education' system produces.
So yeah, Nazis do a better job of educating kids than you. So yeah, they should be able to educate their kids, while you shouldn't be able to groom the kids of other people.
EDIT: This guy writes for The Epoch Times, which used to be very popular among people on the right because of its stuff on corona.
Purposefully crippling your child's development is child abuse. They really should make abusing children illegal. Of course, that's probably "genociding the LGBT" or something, given past precedent.
Purposefully crippling your child's development is child abuse.
It's unclear if that's what's being done here, though. It sounds more like they're letting them learn at their own pace.
I know I personally went from being well behind, to almost immediately reading and writing many years above my age. Trying to really force me earlier would have probably just made me hate reading and writing, and that would have been more damaging.
To be clear, not saying these parents are doing it right, I don't know them. But it's not as clear cut as 'this is definitely child abuse.' At least in my opinion.
I will gladly bet any person that even most successful* kids in public schools are also homeschooled to a degree. I had reading assignments, free courses, etc that I was assigned by my mother because she knew that even our public school which was heavily funded by local bonds didn’t actually expand thought or critical thinking in any capacity.
Ask any teacher or read any study: the kids who perform best at school are the ones whose parents support them the most.
Parental involvment is a better predictor of student success than sex, race, religion, even parental income level.
The high performing student that uses school to be away from neglectful parents is a unicorn; everyone talks about them but no one's ever seen one. Kids whose parents don't care simply drop out.
But hey, maybe if we throw enough money at "acredited" teachers, that will somehow change.
I don't have much sympathy for teachers (they tend to monopolize all the self-pity) but the system is literally setup in a way that, unless their students show up with discipline, focus, and initiative, there's little or nothing they can do.
They're babysitters, full stop. They can barely answer questions about their own lectures, let alone those from students learning something new.
Colleges are even worse than this. Almost every professor I had had the same schpeel: you will literally be expected to have read the entire section already before coming to class so that the lecturer will not need to spend any time explaining the topic. You are expected to have tried some of the homework problems and come prepared with those instead. The lecture is not to go over the material expected of you, but to go over a summary of the material you already taught yourself before you got to class. And since this is the case, it makes you really wonder what the hell the recitation period is for. Then on top of that, why do you have office hours, which your also implicitly expected to attend.
How fucking useless is your period of instruction if you shouldn't learn anything from it, you'll have to recite it elsewhere, and if you got questions take it to office hours. What the fuck is the point of the lecture in the first place?
What is the point of the class if all we're doing is going over the book? Shouldn't I just read the book by myself?
Hang on... why is the book also terrible? Who fucking designed this ridiculous thing?!!!
Despite all that, I still 'passed' and even got a B for my 3D work because that's what I was actually interested in ( The fucking cretins ) despite it being advertised as a 'games design' course we did not look at a single game engine or line of code and 3D modelling was barely taught. They were more interested in prepping people for university.
That's exactly right. Literally no one in that class knew anything about game design, 3D modeling, or anything else. They just new that it could be a safe, easy, course to teach and the kids wouldn't know anything about the topic to challenge it, and so long as they did University prep, it was close enough.
The school system is already that homework exists.
Actually think about that for a second. They have 8 hours with your kid 5 days out of the week, and then (as a parent) you have to help them with the stuff they spent 8 fucking hours on for an additional 2-3 hours at home.
The more you start to understand about education and training, the worse you can see the school system actually is. Even with good teachers, the entire structure is broken.
They hate homeschooling for the same reason they hate farmers. They hate those that are independent and not reliant upon the state. The more independent you are, the more apparent it is that they too could be independent and successful and wilfully choose not to be.
Accredited teachers? Accredited by who? The current system to become a teacher is a certification after 2 years of learning and a half year of experience. Those can also be signed off by anyone so if you suck enough dem-cock in college, you can get one rubber stamped.
We didn't do vaccinations for our kids...and we didn't use the healthcare system. Instead, we use natural and herbal remedies.
And the kids are probably unironically healthier for it. At the very least, guarantee they're not on Ritalin or SSRIs, and that's a huge win right there. One of the cruelest things you can do to someone is give them mainstream pharmaceutical treatments for ADD/ADHD or depression.
Socialists not only consider your property as theirs, they also consider your children as theirs.
"Let me disprove this lunatic by saying teaching your own kids should be illegal, and you should be forced to send them to government centers." - This retard, essentially.
One big failing in this argument that homeschooling is harmful is...the kids would be influenced by the parents one way or the other anyway. You think just forcing them to go to public government schools would mean they weren't still being taught - intentionally or not - by their parents. If the parents are batshit insane like they're trying to imply, merely sending the kids to school isn't going to solve the issue. But they want to take the kids too, that's the next step. You have to love how illiberal "liberals" really are.
The family shares insights into their unique way of life on Instagram and YouTube, where they have to defend themselves at times but have cultivated a community of similar thinkers and interested viewers.
Um there's a "neo nazi homeschooling network" and i don't know the name of it? Surely there is some address people could donate school supplies to or something
I looked into it, all I found was usurous screeching about a telegram group called Dissident Homeschool that distributes lesson plans to a couple thousand members. Considering every member is likely at the head of their own family I'd say that's pretty neat. What a whitepill in an age where they goad you daily "you wont do anything" framing your only choices as submission or violence.
I love that he's worried about homeschooling teaching kids Neo-Nazism, when the thing that was actively teaching German kids National Socialism was the public fucking schools.
I dug up the NY Post article.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/im-unschooling-my-kids-why-i-wont-teach-them-to-read-and-write/
It's not the stereotype of religious weirdos or racist at all. It's New Age hippy POMO shit about "child autonomy."
It’s literally extreme leftists, just not authoritarian extreme leftists
In my experience, those who talk about giving power to children are (counterintuitively) the authoritarian extreme leftists.
A leftist who raises his kids properly is more likely to be one with common sense and reject the extreme authoritarianism.
All leftism, every one of their ideas, is extreme.
I never thought I'd miss the hippie left
Please use archive links for sites like that. https://archive.ph/84vyn
I bear no love at all for Nazis or Stormfags, but the children educated by Nazis weren't groomed into mutilating themselves and being the total basketcases that the modern 'education' system produces.
So yeah, Nazis do a better job of educating kids than you. So yeah, they should be able to educate their kids, while you shouldn't be able to groom the kids of other people.
EDIT: This guy writes for The Epoch Times, which used to be very popular among people on the right because of its stuff on corona.
Epoch Times exists to drum up support for war with China. They will cozy up to whoever they think their warmongering will work on.
No Nazi ever told me to "make way for marginalized" colleagues...
Ironically, the Nazis are the most marginalized people around.
People home-school because they dont want their kids brainwashed by people like YOU @famoushorse
Purposefully crippling your child's development is child abuse. They really should make abusing children illegal. Of course, that's probably "genociding the LGBT" or something, given past precedent.
It's unclear if that's what's being done here, though. It sounds more like they're letting them learn at their own pace.
I know I personally went from being well behind, to almost immediately reading and writing many years above my age. Trying to really force me earlier would have probably just made me hate reading and writing, and that would have been more damaging.
To be clear, not saying these parents are doing it right, I don't know them. But it's not as clear cut as 'this is definitely child abuse.' At least in my opinion.
I will gladly bet any person that even most successful* kids in public schools are also homeschooled to a degree. I had reading assignments, free courses, etc that I was assigned by my mother because she knew that even our public school which was heavily funded by local bonds didn’t actually expand thought or critical thinking in any capacity.
EXCELLENT point.
Ask any teacher or read any study: the kids who perform best at school are the ones whose parents support them the most.
Parental involvment is a better predictor of student success than sex, race, religion, even parental income level.
The high performing student that uses school to be away from neglectful parents is a unicorn; everyone talks about them but no one's ever seen one. Kids whose parents don't care simply drop out.
But hey, maybe if we throw enough money at "acredited" teachers, that will somehow change.
I don't have much sympathy for teachers (they tend to monopolize all the self-pity) but the system is literally setup in a way that, unless their students show up with discipline, focus, and initiative, there's little or nothing they can do.
They're babysitters, full stop. They can barely answer questions about their own lectures, let alone those from students learning something new.
Colleges are even worse than this. Almost every professor I had had the same schpeel: you will literally be expected to have read the entire section already before coming to class so that the lecturer will not need to spend any time explaining the topic. You are expected to have tried some of the homework problems and come prepared with those instead. The lecture is not to go over the material expected of you, but to go over a summary of the material you already taught yourself before you got to class. And since this is the case, it makes you really wonder what the hell the recitation period is for. Then on top of that, why do you have office hours, which your also implicitly expected to attend.
How fucking useless is your period of instruction if you shouldn't learn anything from it, you'll have to recite it elsewhere, and if you got questions take it to office hours. What the fuck is the point of the lecture in the first place?
What is the point of the class if all we're doing is going over the book? Shouldn't I just read the book by myself?
Hang on... why is the book also terrible? Who fucking designed this ridiculous thing?!!!
That's exactly right. Literally no one in that class knew anything about game design, 3D modeling, or anything else. They just new that it could be a safe, easy, course to teach and the kids wouldn't know anything about the topic to challenge it, and so long as they did University prep, it was close enough.
The school system is already that homework exists.
Actually think about that for a second. They have 8 hours with your kid 5 days out of the week, and then (as a parent) you have to help them with the stuff they spent 8 fucking hours on for an additional 2-3 hours at home.
The more you start to understand about education and training, the worse you can see the school system actually is. Even with good teachers, the entire structure is broken.
It reads like a psiop to make home schooling sound bad.
They hate homeschooling for the same reason they hate farmers. They hate those that are independent and not reliant upon the state. The more independent you are, the more apparent it is that they too could be independent and successful and wilfully choose not to be.
Accredited teachers? Accredited by who? The current system to become a teacher is a certification after 2 years of learning and a half year of experience. Those can also be signed off by anyone so if you suck enough dem-cock in college, you can get one rubber stamped.
Trust the Experts™.
Also, have you seen teachers?
And the kids are probably unironically healthier for it. At the very least, guarantee they're not on Ritalin or SSRIs, and that's a huge win right there. One of the cruelest things you can do to someone is give them mainstream pharmaceutical treatments for ADD/ADHD or depression.
"Let me disprove this lunatic by saying teaching your own kids should be illegal, and you should be forced to send them to government centers." - This retard, essentially.
One big failing in this argument that homeschooling is harmful is...the kids would be influenced by the parents one way or the other anyway. You think just forcing them to go to
publicgovernment schools would mean they weren't still being taught - intentionally or not - by their parents. If the parents are batshit insane like they're trying to imply, merely sending the kids to school isn't going to solve the issue. But they want to take the kids too, that's the next step. You have to love how illiberal "liberals" really are.Gee, I wonder if the people telling others how to raise their kids have any of their own..?
Reality:
Food for thought.
Right.
Um there's a "neo nazi homeschooling network" and i don't know the name of it? Surely there is some address people could donate school supplies to or something
I looked into it, all I found was usurous screeching about a telegram group called Dissident Homeschool that distributes lesson plans to a couple thousand members. Considering every member is likely at the head of their own family I'd say that's pretty neat. What a whitepill in an age where they goad you daily "you wont do anything" framing your only choices as submission or violence.
I love that he's worried about homeschooling teaching kids Neo-Nazism, when the thing that was actively teaching German kids National Socialism was the public fucking schools.
gay commies want everything that isn't gay commie indoctrination banned, it isn't surprising
"this thing isn't controlled by gay commies, here is why it is bad" every corporate media opinion since the 60s