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– Ahaus667 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I will gladly bet any person that even most successful* kids in public schools are also homeschooled to a degree. I had reading assignments, free courses, etc that I was assigned by my mother because she knew that even our public school which was heavily funded by local bonds didn’t actually expand thought or critical thinking in any capacity.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

EXCELLENT point.

Ask any teacher or read any study: the kids who perform best at school are the ones whose parents support them the most.

Parental involvment is a better predictor of student success than sex, race, religion, even parental income level.

The high performing student that uses school to be away from neglectful parents is a unicorn; everyone talks about them but no one's ever seen one. Kids whose parents don't care simply drop out.

But hey, maybe if we throw enough money at "acredited" teachers, that will somehow change.

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– WeedleTLiar 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I don't have much sympathy for teachers (they tend to monopolize all the self-pity) but the system is literally setup in a way that, unless their students show up with discipline, focus, and initiative, there's little or nothing they can do.

They're babysitters, full stop. They can barely answer questions about their own lectures, let alone those from students learning something new.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Then what's the point of a teacher?

Colleges are even worse than this. Almost every professor I had had the same schpeel: you will literally be expected to have read the entire section already before coming to class so that the lecturer will not need to spend any time explaining the topic. You are expected to have tried some of the homework problems and come prepared with those instead. The lecture is not to go over the material expected of you, but to go over a summary of the material you already taught yourself before you got to class. And since this is the case, it makes you really wonder what the hell the recitation period is for. Then on top of that, why do you have office hours, which your also implicitly expected to attend.

How fucking useless is your period of instruction if you shouldn't learn anything from it, you'll have to recite it elsewhere, and if you got questions take it to office hours. What the fuck is the point of the lecture in the first place?

What is the point of the class if all we're doing is going over the book? Shouldn't I just read the book by myself?

Hang on... why is the book also terrible? Who fucking designed this ridiculous thing?!!!

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The school system is already that homework exists.

Actually think about that for a second. They have 8 hours with your kid 5 days out of the week, and then (as a parent) you have to help them with the stuff they spent 8 fucking hours on for an additional 2-3 hours at home.

The more you start to understand about education and training, the worse you can see the school system actually is. Even with good teachers, the entire structure is broken.

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