The artist has been uploading identically styled and composed works since at least 2019. The moderators clearly didn't even glance at portfolio, or, if they did, then they are too full of themselves to admit an embarrassing mistake.
Absolute retardation on the part of the moderator(s) and an own goal for the anti-AI art crowd, as it's a tacit admission that AI art is more than good enough.
The biggest cause of a lot of modern problems is that we let too many people who are immune to shame into positions where shame is the only mechanism keeping them in line.
The whole sub is now set to private, citing 'brigading', aka the obvious thing that inevitably happens when word gets around of your colossal stupidity and people rightly come to tell you what a dumbass you are.
As an artfag myself, I'm utterly embarassed by the reactions I've seen from other artists. One thing I've noticed is at that the more mad about AI art they are, the more likely they are to to be a fucking commie. ...Which is hilarious to me, because there's no such thing as IP rights under communism.
Communism is all about envy, but give a commie the tiniest piece of ownership and they're more miserly than a Charles Dickens villain. Reading up on the whole sublet thing a few years ago really reinforced that. They'll cry about landlords being evil until their face is as blue as their hair, but then they'll charge strangers hundreds of dollars a month and impose all sorts of discriminatory rules for the privilege of sleeping in the crawlspace.
I mean I can understand artists being pissed about the prospect of neural net algorithms stealing pieces of their art to generate images but Jesus fucking Christ that mod is an asshole.
As a professional aviator who is staring down the barrel of being replaced by unmanned systems I find it absolutely hilarious that artists are so upset that the same is happening to them.
Yeah nah they ain't going to replace real pilots with drone systems any time soon. Drones have their place, but the capacity to replace significant parts of our aviation infrastructure isn't going to be there for decades. They're inherently worse for almost any operation than a manned aircraft.
Airlines? No way in hell are people trusting a plane with no pilot, and a signal interruption killing fifty people would go poorly. Cargo? Drones of that scale just don't exist yet. And fully automated systems are far from reliable enough for either market.
Drones might add new markets, but they are far from replacing current ones, and transferring real pilots to drone pilots will be a major part of it when it happens.
I am talking about actual long distance commercial load carrying drones. Outside of military attack and surveillance drones, which are piloted, the commercial drone world is largely quad rotor style. The automated delivery drone that amazon tried to use was this type, for example.
Outside of military attack and surveillance drones, which are piloted
Not 'which are piloted'. Which 'can be' piloted. They spend the majority of their time flying autonomously. The remote human pilot is there only for specific tasks.
The reason Amazon trialed a quad copter for delivery is because a quad copter doesn't need a fucking runway to land. A fixed wing aircraft can't land on your doorstep, remember?
If Fed Ex or someone decides tomorrow that they want fully autonomous cargo planes, it will not be technically difficult to achieve. Only the regulation and legal red tape will hinder it.
I personally flew multiple fixed-wing UAS using that autopilot when it was new, and they were fully capable of autonomous takeoff and landing back in 2011.
I'm talking about commercial load size craft, not microplanes. Automated drones for long range unsupported action are nowhere near the functionality of a full sized cross country flight cargo plane. The complexities of flight are more than just making a robot go point a to b across a short distance. Terrain and weather and emergency management all require a real pilot and potentially cause signal loss, and a high tonnage cargo drone going down is a huge liability.
Yeah, the thing that's going to be putting aviators out of work will be lack of demand for commercial flights because people won't be able to afford to fly places in a massive recession and with ever increasing carbon taxes. Better get licensed on a Learjet quick, those are going to be fine, our betters have places to be.
I think the first place drones will proliferate is the military.
As long as the communications to the drone are secure, it's superior to a manned fighter aircraft in every way (no physiological limitations on extreme maneuvers, no oxygen and other life support systems, no need for CSAR if shot down, etc.)
Most of those advantages are irrelevant in non-combat aircraft. Setting up all the systems to fly the plane remotely probably isn't much more cost-effective than having the pilot onboard, and automating the process is risky for the same reason AI art has malformed hands with too many or too few fingers. Computers can be programmed, but they can't identify and avoid stupid-simple mistakes like a person.
Most of the anger comes from having their worked used without permission to make commercial software under the guise that it’s being used for academic research. A lot of artist are left wing and have stupid takes. But allow me to point out that on the right we have a lot of dumb asses who are also extremely vocal Trump supporters who do more harm than good for the cause. People can support something and do so for incredibly stupid reasons and it happens on the left and right. The media jumped on it with interviewing some of the dumbest people they could find at Trump rallies. And the right did it with Obama supporters in 2008
I am greatly amused by the ai art hysteria going around. So many galleries online have these soft skinned nutters freaking out about what is or isn't art. Fuck em. Art is subjective.
... if their benchmark for removing artwork is "AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours" then they're going to be banning more and more art the better the AI gets.
D'you think this one didn't think through their spinal-reflex "must defend moderation decisions" response?
AI art is one of my favorite things, bursting the commies' delusion that they will be artists when society is finally communist. Maybe this will help many of them realize the truth that comrades will be needed in the lithium and cobalt mines, not in their apartments making "art."
A major source of income for a lot of transgender communists/furries in general is low quality art commissions, which are now incredibly cheap and easy to generate yourself without having to pay somebody and hoping they have the spoons to pick up a pen and draw today.
They didn't have that fear when it was all the "blue-collared, cousin-fucking rubes" that were losing their jobs to automation. I shouldn't be surprised that a professional overrun with leftoids would try and gatekeep creativity.
It has taken years for it to sink into my brain that reddit moderators are being totally serious when they speak to me. Not only do they think what they do is necessary but it's important, and the way they do it is reasonable and refined; high society correcting the base behavior of the plebs. This is real, they are real people in a sense of the word, and this is truly their perspective.
I think it would be immediately fixed by some sort of regulation that doxxes all moderators on social media websites and requires full body photos to be submitted for display to the public.
You don't give the dog Monkeypox from walking it.
It's in code.
Can't be AI. The hands aren't fucked up.
While true, they at least usually know how many fingers are on a hand which is where the AI lacks.
Hands are the hardest part of the human body to draw, yes.
But for AIs, it seems ESPECIALLY hard.
And this is actually why the AI can't draw hands. "I learned it by watching you!"
AI + 1hr touch up in photoshop
The artist has been uploading identically styled and composed works since at least 2019. The moderators clearly didn't even glance at portfolio, or, if they did, then they are too full of themselves to admit an embarrassing mistake.
Absolute retardation on the part of the moderator(s) and an own goal for the anti-AI art crowd, as it's a tacit admission that AI art is more than good enough.
Sociopaths don't get embarrassed. They externalize the embarrassment to blame someone else. In this case, "your art sucks."
The biggest cause of a lot of modern problems is that we let too many people who are immune to shame into positions where shame is the only mechanism keeping them in line.
This could also be fixed by introducing additional deterrence mechanisms, such as an appropriately timed punch in the face.
I'd like to see the return of, as Matt Christiansen calls them, "big bird costumes." A.K.A. tar and feathering.
I don't think I could possibly agree more. I often tell people that we need to bring back shaming people publicly, and it would fix a lot of problems.
They wouldn't have instantly muted him if they weren't concerned about being further embarrassed by him pointing it out.
The whole sub is now set to private, citing 'brigading', aka the obvious thing that inevitably happens when word gets around of your colossal stupidity and people rightly come to tell you what a dumbass you are.
As an artfag myself, I'm utterly embarassed by the reactions I've seen from other artists. One thing I've noticed is at that the more mad about AI art they are, the more likely they are to to be a fucking commie. ...Which is hilarious to me, because there's no such thing as IP rights under communism.
Communism is all about envy, but give a commie the tiniest piece of ownership and they're more miserly than a Charles Dickens villain. Reading up on the whole sublet thing a few years ago really reinforced that. They'll cry about landlords being evil until their face is as blue as their hair, but then they'll charge strangers hundreds of dollars a month and impose all sorts of discriminatory rules for the privilege of sleeping in the crawlspace.
SORRY Y'ALL CAN'T BEHAVE I'M GOING TO LOCK THIS THREAD DOWN TEEHEE
It's an assertion that art is no more than technical skill, in which case AI should replace us.
But it's not. Art is about conveying transcendance; a human can do that using an AI, an AI cannot do it alone.
I mean I can understand artists being pissed about the prospect of neural net algorithms stealing pieces of their art to generate images but Jesus fucking Christ that mod is an asshole.
As a professional aviator who is staring down the barrel of being replaced by unmanned systems I find it absolutely hilarious that artists are so upset that the same is happening to them.
Yeah nah they ain't going to replace real pilots with drone systems any time soon. Drones have their place, but the capacity to replace significant parts of our aviation infrastructure isn't going to be there for decades. They're inherently worse for almost any operation than a manned aircraft.
Airlines? No way in hell are people trusting a plane with no pilot, and a signal interruption killing fifty people would go poorly. Cargo? Drones of that scale just don't exist yet. And fully automated systems are far from reliable enough for either market.
Drones might add new markets, but they are far from replacing current ones, and transferring real pilots to drone pilots will be a major part of it when it happens.
Making it fly a bigger plane is comparatively trivial.
Automated drones are all quad rotors, those are slower and more stable, and they don't scale as well. Fixed wing aircraft still require human pilots.
Self driving trucks would make more sense. Infrastructurally, bringing trains back would make even more sense.
Please research outside the world of children's toys.
I am talking about actual long distance commercial load carrying drones. Outside of military attack and surveillance drones, which are piloted, the commercial drone world is largely quad rotor style. The automated delivery drone that amazon tried to use was this type, for example.
Not 'which are piloted'. Which 'can be' piloted. They spend the majority of their time flying autonomously. The remote human pilot is there only for specific tasks.
The reason Amazon trialed a quad copter for delivery is because a quad copter doesn't need a fucking runway to land. A fixed wing aircraft can't land on your doorstep, remember?
If Fed Ex or someone decides tomorrow that they want fully autonomous cargo planes, it will not be technically difficult to achieve. Only the regulation and legal red tape will hinder it.
Fixed-wing autopilots came first, and have been available in the hobby space for well over a decade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArduPilot#Early_years,_2007-2012.
I personally flew multiple fixed-wing UAS using that autopilot when it was new, and they were fully capable of autonomous takeoff and landing back in 2011.
I'm talking about commercial load size craft, not microplanes. Automated drones for long range unsupported action are nowhere near the functionality of a full sized cross country flight cargo plane. The complexities of flight are more than just making a robot go point a to b across a short distance. Terrain and weather and emergency management all require a real pilot and potentially cause signal loss, and a high tonnage cargo drone going down is a huge liability.
We might not have autonomous cargo planes, but we do have drone-piloted goal posts it seems! They move on their own!
Yeah, the thing that's going to be putting aviators out of work will be lack of demand for commercial flights because people won't be able to afford to fly places in a massive recession and with ever increasing carbon taxes. Better get licensed on a Learjet quick, those are going to be fine, our betters have places to be.
they replaced pilots and air traffic controllers with diversity hires, i trust drone pilot ai more than shaniquakwa
I think the first place drones will proliferate is the military.
As long as the communications to the drone are secure, it's superior to a manned fighter aircraft in every way (no physiological limitations on extreme maneuvers, no oxygen and other life support systems, no need for CSAR if shot down, etc.)
Most of those advantages are irrelevant in non-combat aircraft. Setting up all the systems to fly the plane remotely probably isn't much more cost-effective than having the pilot onboard, and automating the process is risky for the same reason AI art has malformed hands with too many or too few fingers. Computers can be programmed, but they can't identify and avoid stupid-simple mistakes like a person.
Most of the anger comes from having their worked used without permission to make commercial software under the guise that it’s being used for academic research. A lot of artist are left wing and have stupid takes. But allow me to point out that on the right we have a lot of dumb asses who are also extremely vocal Trump supporters who do more harm than good for the cause. People can support something and do so for incredibly stupid reasons and it happens on the left and right. The media jumped on it with interviewing some of the dumbest people they could find at Trump rallies. And the right did it with Obama supporters in 2008
Reddit is run by and used by morons. There are a lot of them.
And just like that, AI Art is 100% legitimized. Humans clearly can't tell the difference between Human created art and AI art.
Oh, it always was. You think million dollar companies aren't going to be using it, given the chance?
I can't find much art I like after 1899.
The impressionists were the last gasp of humanity before the plunge into modernism.
I am greatly amused by the ai art hysteria going around. So many galleries online have these soft skinned nutters freaking out about what is or isn't art. Fuck em. Art is subjective.
"Ducktaping a banana to a wall is high art worth tens of thousands of dollars."
"AI isn't real art, this is blasphemy, ban this."
Clown World.
Yup, art jumped the shark with Piccaso, and hit the floor with Piss Jesus.
All they had to do was count that she had 5 fingers on each hand to know it wasn’t ai.
>AI is terrible at making art
>AI can make better art then this in seconds
... if their benchmark for removing artwork is "AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours" then they're going to be banning more and more art the better the AI gets.
D'you think this one didn't think through their spinal-reflex "must defend moderation decisions" response?
Ban them all, let Godmode sort them out!
AI art is one of my favorite things, bursting the commies' delusion that they will be artists when society is finally communist. Maybe this will help many of them realize the truth that comrades will be needed in the lithium and cobalt mines, not in their apartments making "art."
I don't understand the fear of AI art, isn't the good thing about art that everyone can have their own unique style?
A major source of income for a lot of transgender communists/furries in general is low quality art commissions, which are now incredibly cheap and easy to generate yourself without having to pay somebody and hoping they have the spoons to pick up a pen and draw today.
They didn't have that fear when it was all the "blue-collared, cousin-fucking rubes" that were losing their jobs to automation. I shouldn't be surprised that a professional overrun with leftoids would try and gatekeep creativity.
It has taken years for it to sink into my brain that reddit moderators are being totally serious when they speak to me. Not only do they think what they do is necessary but it's important, and the way they do it is reasonable and refined; high society correcting the base behavior of the plebs. This is real, they are real people in a sense of the word, and this is truly their perspective.
I think it would be immediately fixed by some sort of regulation that doxxes all moderators on social media websites and requires full body photos to be submitted for display to the public.
"It's the way of the world" when people like them run it.
I'm not sure what the artist is going for here, but I do like their work. Looks neat.
Link doesn't work.
Using Pi-Hole by any chance? I had to whitelist: