Those are all not just gone, but demonized, there is no value in the modern career unless you are doing something intrinsically purposeful. What’s hilarious is this is going to be a “women most affected” story when the free money men were throwing at them dries up.
I hate those things. They're everything that's wrong with the modern world marketing toys to adults rather than children:
They're ugly, and often unrecognizable as the character they're meant to represent without the label on the packaging
There's like a thousand of them, so someone would have to spend a fortune to collect them all. I think they have a bunch of exclusives too.
they've blended "universes" into incomprehensibility. "You like Spider-Man? How would you like Superman done in the same style? Now how about Seinfeld and that guy in the background from the Office?"
Its funny, because very early on when they were less streamlined, they had some pretty cool ones. Because instead of having a recognizable "brand" shape, they had all the necessary details to recognize the character itself. The D.Va for example built the entire mech with no "Funko" parts in the slightest, just a solid figurine. The only way you even know is because the tiny D.Va inside is Funko'd.
Now they are so rushing out to have every single character in existence they can't spend time beyond a paint job, and you'd never guess who half of them were without the box telling you.
That's about all that's propping me up most days. That and the knowledge that at some point there might be the opportunity to at least have a meaningful death in the future.
People are retarded, most women are cheap whores (and the ones that aren't are taken). And vice versa, for women, most men are soyboys and/or checked out.
You're hated by most people, simply for existing. Facts don't matter anymore. Having a work ethic, or wanting to be positive, is demonized. Society is circling the drain, and nobody cares.
Hobbies we used to love are turned to cancer because nobody gate kept hard enough.
No, it's really not worth it. But here we are anyway.
If you want to have a nice wife & children you can do that. Is it hard? Yes, but it's possible.
If you want to fuck as many women as possible and enjoy yourself? That is also possible.
Want to live your life in solitude and enjoy either mundance stuff (hunting, crafting, ...) or technical stuff (automation, technology, ...) it's possible.
Do you want to contribute to your local community / society in general without having children then you can do so too.
If you want to play video games almost all day and watch shit on netflix that is also an option.
Imp, I love you bro (no homo), but you gotta do the math on that one a bit more. Had a friend in finance who broke it down for me as more or less a gamble. Yes, if you get a messy divorce you are going to possibly lose value/money/sanity/etc in the future, but there are real tax incentives to being married and that money can compound over time.
Does it balance out the potential future loss? Well that all depends. Just like an insurance agent, you need to factor in the risk factors for the individual. Its not a 100%, but like any numbers game you can come out ahead. Hell, I have known folks who got married and the wife's family bought them a home. Even in a divorce scenario they still win.
I think the real issue is that men need to be taught that love is an emotional thing, but marriage is a financial and legal transaction and should be treated as such.
Half the argument for gays to get married is because there is a literal tangible monetary gain in being married because of taxes and insurance and lots of other legal shit.
That's ignoring the thousands of years where marriage was, at its most cynical, a completely free houseslave to homemake while you worked.
jobless men don’t act the way advocates of “universal basic income” have always promised they would — becoming caregivers, volunteering in their communities or pursuing artistic passions. The evidence from time-use surveys all suggests pretty strongly that people freed from the responsibility of work sit on their asses all day, do drugs and play video games. Who knew, right?
Good. The idea that there's nobility in performing labor is completely preposterous when that labor is simply to make a multinational corporation and the billionaires that control it even richer while feeding a feminist-facist government that hates you.
People work to put food on the table; if they found a way to scam the system and get money without working, more power to them. Withdraw from soyciety and become ungovernable.
jobless men don’t act the way advocates of “universal basic income” have always promised they would — becoming caregivers, volunteering in their communities or pursuing artistic passions.
No, no, no. See, in a communist society they would! Even when they can live without working, capitalism is still keeping them down! Reeeeee!
I've honestly heard this argument. Everyone's beliefs, motivations, and actions would change if you force communism upon them.
Communists live in their own weird little reality, completely divorced from actual observable reality.
I keep pointing out that Cambodia was a literal Socialist Utopia under Pol Pot. Killing 40% of the population was a small price to pay to banish the wrong-think.
The constant fear of being tortured to death and the brutal below-subsistence poverty was fine. At least they were real socialists.
People work to put food on the table; if they found a way to scam the system and get money without working, more power to them. Withdraw from soyciety and become ungovernable.
That's fucking retarded.
You're not suggesting people become ungovernable, you're demanding people become worthless and unimportant. There's no difference between this and being a useless consoomer. To think you're ungovernable because no one gives a shit whether you live or die, being that you have no friends and have no social influence, is laughable at best.
Men need to be the pillar of the parallel societies they build around them out of their communities, friends, and families. They need to be bastions against the institutions and toxic incentives of a poisoned society. They need to be the arbiters of morality locally. They need to be the center piece around which they can build a community. They need to be the reliable force that can help others build wealth and influence.
This idea that you should withdraw from society is Leftist subversion from the fucking 70's, back in the days of "Tune in, drop out" mentality of the fucking hippies.
Nah, you really can become ungovernable by turning to drugs, video games and not working. I live in Saskatchewan and you can see first hand how natives ruin any city they have a high enough population in. People are scared to go out in the city, the police can't get enough funding, the city itself can't get enough in taxes to make any changes they need. Natives, if high enough in pop, destroy cities.
If you get enough men leaving the system and resorting to drugs, violence, gangs, etc... It really does start to bring the whole system down. Obviously a few guys here or there makes no difference, just like a city with 2% natives is hardly noticeable but if the city is 50% natives, it's 100% fucked. If men in large enough numbers stopped working, the whole system would collapse.
We should be encouraging men to 100% boycott the system. Your idea that one should continue to slave away so they have standing in the system is trying to change a system within the confines of the system. It's like telling Alberta that maybe if Alberta voted liberal the liberals would actually start doing what Alberta wanted. Bullshit. All you're doing is making it easier for your enemies to destroy you. Resist by bringing the system to it's knees. Stop partaking in the system altogether. Abandon it.
If men in large enough numbers stopped working, the whole system would collapse.
That's exactly the point you fucking school shooter.
Your solution is fatalistic hippie bullshit to degenerate society so you can have no civilization left, and so you can kill yourself in your own black-pilled oubliette. You might as well be calling for mass suicide.
You're not bringing anything to it's knees, you're just perpetuating the degeneracy until all that's left is the authority, but in a mad max version, where no one will help you, and you have no society left to save. Your motto is "Victory in death."
No, we don't be failures so you can create the hell that you already live in with your pathological and crippling mental health issues. Real men have to actually do the right thing and build a parallel society where they don't become degenerate coomers and addicts.
You're video games and drugs aren't going to do shit when the power plants stop working and you can't feed yourself. You can only afford the strategy you suggest when you're already a worthless parasite stealing from the good will of your friends, neighbors, and families.
It's going to be a natural process. I'm not going to be one of the leaders in this. Young white men are being discriminated against for new jobs so the younger, less capable white men are going to be the first out of the system as a natural process.
I'm advocating that this sort of overall pressure is a good thing because of what it will lead to if it continues. I'm not saying all white men should stop working immediately. That'll never happen even if I'd like to see it happen.
What does 'bringing the system to its knees' look like in practice and how does it affect this hypothetical guy that sits around high playing video games?
Probably a lot like Balkanization and the Dark Ages.
How does it benefit a video game enthusiast? Well, if you love playing video games, jerking off to porn and eating hamburgers all day, I have bad news for you. It's going to suck. If you hate doing those things but are just doing them because you have no choice, once the system breaks, new opportunities for advancement that were previously bared from you will appear. The smart and strong will gain distinct advantages over the dumb and weak so if you happen to be in the former category, you may be able to utilize the situation to gain an advantage which may or may not make your life much more worthwhile in living than now.
Many of the Hippies ran off to start communes where they could live outside mainstream society in actual socialism.
Only to have them all implode, because building community infrastructure from the ground up is hard, dirty work; and almost all of them were happy to sit on their ass and let everyone else do the work.
Even ten or twenty percent of the community being freeloaders is unsustainable at the subsistence level. The people who work the hardest see the freeloaders take their stuff, and they get cross. They leave, and it all falls in a heap.
Hippy Communes were a fantastic case study of why Socialism doesn't work without totalitarian control.
sit on their asses all day, do drugs and play video games
I couldn't really imagine living like this. I'm pretty sure I'd end of up suicidal. It's not work, especially not corporate work that I'd miss, just the thought of really having no aspirations and just existing to eat, shit, and move air around is a no go. Is that just something the modern upbringing does to people, or am I the weird one?
They have no hope oftentimes. Some subconscious part of their mind tells them the world is wrong, but they suppress it by spending their time on their rear, wasting away as the world leaves them behind.
Anytime I'm on vacation for more than like 5 days I start to go insane. I don't do a drug harder than soda, but I am compelled by some force inside me to work to feel any sort of satisfaction with my day.
Like, fuck the companies I work for. But I take a lot of pleasure in my work itself for my own sake, they just benefit from it some of the time.
Realistically, immigrants who can't speak English would only get the lowest, most terrible jobs. I'm not saying it's not an issue, but it's not the largest by a long way, at least in context of jobs.
It's women who are elevated way beyond their competence and become a problem for everyone, and the longer you leave that problem, the worse it gets as they entrench themselves.
Realistically, immigrants who can't speak English would only get the lowest, most terrible jobs
You know what terrible jobs often are? Decently paying because its the only way to get someone willing to suffer construction, road work, and other shit shovelers. Places where there are no women, never were women, and women aren't relevant to any part of the equation because they are too dainty for such work. Otherwise its entry level work, which is a crucial piece of the equation for those of little/no experience (young adults) or people who just aren't worth any more than that. Those jobs serve a purpose beyond just "forgettable stuff I don't concern my privileged ass with."
Women are a bigger issue in soft work, like offices. Except even those are getting decimated by Indian immigrants too. Another completely independent factor effecting the equation.
He bought a piece of wooded property that has no road access. Then using his savings lives there by camping and building whatever he feels like with a chainsaw. In one ep he breaks down how much it costs for him to live there and it isn't much.
Reasons men had to work:
Marriage and family
Job growth based off performance
Purposefulness
Building a shared culture and values
Those are all not just gone, but demonized, there is no value in the modern career unless you are doing something intrinsically purposeful. What’s hilarious is this is going to be a “women most affected” story when the free money men were throwing at them dries up.
You don't find fulfillment in working to buy more FUNKO POPS?
I hate those things. They're everything that's wrong with the modern world marketing toys to adults rather than children:
They're ugly, and often unrecognizable as the character they're meant to represent without the label on the packaging
There's like a thousand of them, so someone would have to spend a fortune to collect them all. I think they have a bunch of exclusives too.
they've blended "universes" into incomprehensibility. "You like Spider-Man? How would you like Superman done in the same style? Now how about Seinfeld and that guy in the background from the Office?"
They're soulless dolls, each one a carbon copy of each other one, except for their outfits. 100% image 0% personality
Those things piss me off. I have a few figures but funko pops aren't even esthetically pleasing. It genuinely confounds me why anyone would like them.
Its funny, because very early on when they were less streamlined, they had some pretty cool ones. Because instead of having a recognizable "brand" shape, they had all the necessary details to recognize the character itself. The D.Va for example built the entire mech with no "Funko" parts in the slightest, just a solid figurine. The only way you even know is because the tiny D.Va inside is Funko'd.
Now they are so rushing out to have every single character in existence they can't spend time beyond a paint job, and you'd never guess who half of them were without the box telling you.
Every day I wake up and wonder whether or not life is actually worth living anymore.
If nothing else, continue to live out of spite.
That's about all that's propping me up most days. That and the knowledge that at some point there might be the opportunity to at least have a meaningful death in the future.
Let's do the math.
People are retarded, most women are cheap whores (and the ones that aren't are taken). And vice versa, for women, most men are soyboys and/or checked out.
You're hated by most people, simply for existing. Facts don't matter anymore. Having a work ethic, or wanting to be positive, is demonized. Society is circling the drain, and nobody cares.
Hobbies we used to love are turned to cancer because nobody gate kept hard enough.
No, it's really not worth it. But here we are anyway.
*wipes vodka off face*
Yup.
Oh cool same.
No one gives a fuck.
If you want to have a nice wife & children you can do that. Is it hard? Yes, but it's possible.
If you want to fuck as many women as possible and enjoy yourself? That is also possible.
Want to live your life in solitude and enjoy either mundance stuff (hunting, crafting, ...) or technical stuff (automation, technology, ...) it's possible.
Do you want to contribute to your local community / society in general without having children then you can do so too.
If you want to play video games almost all day and watch shit on netflix that is also an option.
Oh bullshit, nobody ever saw value in marriage, they did it to avoid going to hell.
It was slight hyperbole, but not much.
Marriage propagated purely through the threat of eternal damnation.
Almost everything you say is significant hyperbole, you just happen to ardently believe the things you say.
Not everyone is of Roman-Catholic believe. And even then “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Imp, I love you bro (no homo), but you gotta do the math on that one a bit more. Had a friend in finance who broke it down for me as more or less a gamble. Yes, if you get a messy divorce you are going to possibly lose value/money/sanity/etc in the future, but there are real tax incentives to being married and that money can compound over time.
Does it balance out the potential future loss? Well that all depends. Just like an insurance agent, you need to factor in the risk factors for the individual. Its not a 100%, but like any numbers game you can come out ahead. Hell, I have known folks who got married and the wife's family bought them a home. Even in a divorce scenario they still win.
I think the real issue is that men need to be taught that love is an emotional thing, but marriage is a financial and legal transaction and should be treated as such.
Half the argument for gays to get married is because there is a literal tangible monetary gain in being married because of taxes and insurance and lots of other legal shit.
That's ignoring the thousands of years where marriage was, at its most cynical, a completely free houseslave to homemake while you worked.
Read Proverbs 31.
Glad you are back, guy.
Good. The idea that there's nobility in performing labor is completely preposterous when that labor is simply to make a multinational corporation and the billionaires that control it even richer while feeding a feminist-facist government that hates you.
People work to put food on the table; if they found a way to scam the system and get money without working, more power to them. Withdraw from soyciety and become ungovernable.
No, no, no. See, in a communist society they would! Even when they can live without working, capitalism is still keeping them down! Reeeeee!
I've honestly heard this argument. Everyone's beliefs, motivations, and actions would change if you force communism upon them.
Communists live in their own weird little reality, completely divorced from actual observable reality.
I keep pointing out that Cambodia was a literal Socialist Utopia under Pol Pot. Killing 40% of the population was a small price to pay to banish the wrong-think.
The constant fear of being tortured to death and the brutal below-subsistence poverty was fine. At least they were real socialists.
In a full communist society they would choose to work. Nevermind that the alternative lands them kettle up in a mass grave
That's fucking retarded.
You're not suggesting people become ungovernable, you're demanding people become worthless and unimportant. There's no difference between this and being a useless consoomer. To think you're ungovernable because no one gives a shit whether you live or die, being that you have no friends and have no social influence, is laughable at best.
Men need to be the pillar of the parallel societies they build around them out of their communities, friends, and families. They need to be bastions against the institutions and toxic incentives of a poisoned society. They need to be the arbiters of morality locally. They need to be the center piece around which they can build a community. They need to be the reliable force that can help others build wealth and influence.
This idea that you should withdraw from society is Leftist subversion from the fucking 70's, back in the days of "Tune in, drop out" mentality of the fucking hippies.
Nah, you really can become ungovernable by turning to drugs, video games and not working. I live in Saskatchewan and you can see first hand how natives ruin any city they have a high enough population in. People are scared to go out in the city, the police can't get enough funding, the city itself can't get enough in taxes to make any changes they need. Natives, if high enough in pop, destroy cities.
If you get enough men leaving the system and resorting to drugs, violence, gangs, etc... It really does start to bring the whole system down. Obviously a few guys here or there makes no difference, just like a city with 2% natives is hardly noticeable but if the city is 50% natives, it's 100% fucked. If men in large enough numbers stopped working, the whole system would collapse.
We should be encouraging men to 100% boycott the system. Your idea that one should continue to slave away so they have standing in the system is trying to change a system within the confines of the system. It's like telling Alberta that maybe if Alberta voted liberal the liberals would actually start doing what Alberta wanted. Bullshit. All you're doing is making it easier for your enemies to destroy you. Resist by bringing the system to it's knees. Stop partaking in the system altogether. Abandon it.
That's exactly the point you fucking school shooter.
Your solution is fatalistic hippie bullshit to degenerate society so you can have no civilization left, and so you can kill yourself in your own black-pilled oubliette. You might as well be calling for mass suicide.
You're not bringing anything to it's knees, you're just perpetuating the degeneracy until all that's left is the authority, but in a mad max version, where no one will help you, and you have no society left to save. Your motto is "Victory in death."
No, we don't be failures so you can create the hell that you already live in with your pathological and crippling mental health issues. Real men have to actually do the right thing and build a parallel society where they don't become degenerate coomers and addicts.
You're video games and drugs aren't going to do shit when the power plants stop working and you can't feed yourself. You can only afford the strategy you suggest when you're already a worthless parasite stealing from the good will of your friends, neighbors, and families.
Yes, I am suggesting we stop feeding families and collapse civilization. That's exactly what I want.
Then you first.
It's going to be a natural process. I'm not going to be one of the leaders in this. Young white men are being discriminated against for new jobs so the younger, less capable white men are going to be the first out of the system as a natural process.
I'm advocating that this sort of overall pressure is a good thing because of what it will lead to if it continues. I'm not saying all white men should stop working immediately. That'll never happen even if I'd like to see it happen.
What does 'bringing the system to its knees' look like in practice and how does it affect this hypothetical guy that sits around high playing video games?
Probably a lot like Balkanization and the Dark Ages.
How does it benefit a video game enthusiast? Well, if you love playing video games, jerking off to porn and eating hamburgers all day, I have bad news for you. It's going to suck. If you hate doing those things but are just doing them because you have no choice, once the system breaks, new opportunities for advancement that were previously bared from you will appear. The smart and strong will gain distinct advantages over the dumb and weak so if you happen to be in the former category, you may be able to utilize the situation to gain an advantage which may or may not make your life much more worthwhile in living than now.
Many of the Hippies ran off to start communes where they could live outside mainstream society in actual socialism.
Only to have them all implode, because building community infrastructure from the ground up is hard, dirty work; and almost all of them were happy to sit on their ass and let everyone else do the work.
Even ten or twenty percent of the community being freeloaders is unsustainable at the subsistence level. The people who work the hardest see the freeloaders take their stuff, and they get cross. They leave, and it all falls in a heap.
Hippy Communes were a fantastic case study of why Socialism doesn't work without totalitarian control.
I couldn't really imagine living like this. I'm pretty sure I'd end of up suicidal. It's not work, especially not corporate work that I'd miss, just the thought of really having no aspirations and just existing to eat, shit, and move air around is a no go. Is that just something the modern upbringing does to people, or am I the weird one?
I'll be honest, I've been there (minus the drugs.) It's not a fulfilling experience, and I certainly do better with something to keep me busy.
They have no hope oftentimes. Some subconscious part of their mind tells them the world is wrong, but they suppress it by spending their time on their rear, wasting away as the world leaves them behind.
When you notice the negative thoughts creeping in, just use more drugs.
Well they end up suicidal too. Men 15-40 suicide rates are pretty high
Anytime I'm on vacation for more than like 5 days I start to go insane. I don't do a drug harder than soda, but I am compelled by some force inside me to work to feel any sort of satisfaction with my day.
Like, fuck the companies I work for. But I take a lot of pleasure in my work itself for my own sake, they just benefit from it some of the time.
Going Galt.
We need to set up a viable Galt's Gulch, though.
Hmmm, men are checking out? No shit.
Ignore the first four, focus on the last.
Women would love if people blame immigration, but it's all them.
It's not competition if one side openly cheats. They need to be treated like Lance Armstrong when he was caught, all stripped of their positions.
I mean, I can go outside and see the immigration problem ruining the job market directly in front of me. Most of those aren't Mexican women either.
This might shock you, but two independent things can both be factors in a problem.
Realistically, immigrants who can't speak English would only get the lowest, most terrible jobs. I'm not saying it's not an issue, but it's not the largest by a long way, at least in context of jobs.
It's women who are elevated way beyond their competence and become a problem for everyone, and the longer you leave that problem, the worse it gets as they entrench themselves.
You know what terrible jobs often are? Decently paying because its the only way to get someone willing to suffer construction, road work, and other shit shovelers. Places where there are no women, never were women, and women aren't relevant to any part of the equation because they are too dainty for such work. Otherwise its entry level work, which is a crucial piece of the equation for those of little/no experience (young adults) or people who just aren't worth any more than that. Those jobs serve a purpose beyond just "forgettable stuff I don't concern my privileged ass with."
Women are a bigger issue in soft work, like offices. Except even those are getting decimated by Indian immigrants too. Another completely independent factor effecting the equation.
Welcome back.
https://archive.vn/rsxDl
This is my new favorite jewtube channel and its funny that he is probably counted among the guys "leaving" the workforce.
https://www.youtube.com/@survivingringworm2202
He bought a piece of wooded property that has no road access. Then using his savings lives there by camping and building whatever he feels like with a chainsaw. In one ep he breaks down how much it costs for him to live there and it isn't much.
Seems like an amazing life.
Great this will give women the opportunity to be garbage collectors, sewage worker, and oil drillers (no not like that).