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fellowwhites 43 points ago +43 / -0

I can understand doing away with heels, but what’s with the prison uniforms?

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FutaCumDiet 22 points ago +23 / -1

They're Ukrainian.

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Houseman 7 points ago +7 / -0

Con Air

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Assassin47 32 points ago +32 / -0

Skirts are too sexy. Women don't like to be stared at like sexual objects.

(except when they do like it)

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bamboozler1 13 points ago +13 / -0

I think it’s more about the who doing the staring, then the when

In my personal experience, at least, let’s say…

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dzonatan 15 points ago +15 / -0

This.

They like it when they're being ogled by a worthy fit male.

They hate it when they're being ogled by a fat ugly loser.

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MegoThor 10 points ago +10 / -0

They hate it when they’re being ogled but a fat ugly POOR loser.

Fat ugly RICH losers, totally acceptable.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

Arguably, “rich” removes “loser” in most cases. For example, Zuckerberg is ugly, bad at social stuff, and evil, but not a loser.

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MegoThor 2 points ago +2 / -0

Little robot man still a loser.

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Steampunk_Moustache 27 points ago +27 / -0

It's not the 1960's any more. Air travel is no longer a glamorous world of high status men; it's largely a mundane world of 200 mediocre losers packed into flying sardine tin.

Not enough millionaires looking at her, she wants to wear pants.

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bamboozler1 6 points ago +6 / -0

I mean, it’s a budget airline that likely no longer exists (something something circumstances), so…

Yes.

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weezkitty 23 points ago +24 / -1

Heels don't really make sense on a plane to be honest

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AbleistSL 16 points ago +17 / -1

In regards to the extremist feminist conspiracy theories regarding heel requirements, 99% of the time it's because the policy was written by a retard that does not realise other women's dress shoes exist.

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bamboozler1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ok, look, silly as it sounds…

Female passengers in business class are generally expected to wear heels. Unless the airline does away with that requirement (and I’m sure some have), then the air hostesses can damn well manage…

It’s not like you can’t take the damn things off, where need be, smh…

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bamboozler1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Also, female flight attendants have managed with skirts and heels for more than 70 years. If anything, the job is significantly less demanding, and less physical than it was at any time in the past.

Thus, by comparison to their forebears, I guess, if anything, this makes them rather weak. Which is fine, if only they admitted that.

It’s part of the deal. Personally, I think they should just suck it up. Like pilots with ties and hats. It’s part of the deal.

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Assassin47 4 points ago +4 / -0

Like pilots with ties and hats.

Frankly more industries need to go back to uniforms with ties and hats.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

It could be that whatever they’re paying is no longer enough to get women to accept that deal, so they’re making the job slightly less annoying rather than paying better. If I was looking at two jobs, and they both paid the same but one of them required I wear uncomfortable shoes for hours at a time, I’d probably take the other one.

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bamboozler1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair conclusion. It is (or rather, was) a budget airline…

I might have said the same thing five years ago, but now..?

If the job comes with more “prestige”, and/or pays better, I would accept less comfortable shoes…

See: literally most trades that require you to wear steel caps, although, admittedly, that is FOR safety, rather than looks…

Or, I dunno, like I said, suits, ties and hats for pilots. They earn a lot. They can suck it up.

As can “prestige” air hostesses, frankly.

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weezkitty 1 point ago +2 / -1

Unless the airline does away with that requirement

I would be highly surprised if any major airline had this a "requirement" now

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trump4045 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most airlines outside of the west require women to wear heels and skirts, even the Muslim ones.

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bamboozler1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Flown on a Middle Eastern airline in business class?? Flown Cathay Pacific in business class..?

The world is not the West, and we should not pretend it is…

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Hand_Of_Node 1 point ago +1 / -0

Women strapping those stilt shoes to their feet is extremely bizarre.

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trump4045 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dont let them con you with the "sense" BS. Soon they will say skirts dont make sense either as pants are safer and more comfortable, oops they already did that.

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GeneralBoobs 13 points ago +13 / -0

Need to hide those dicks and herpes sores.

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the_nybbler 11 points ago +11 / -0

Fuck it, I support Russia now. Vladimir, all is forgiven!

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realerfunction 7 points ago +7 / -0

do they not have more pressing issues at the moment?

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bamboozler1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Agreed. This is from last year, though.

I honestly doubt this airline still exists, or, at least, that it will by the time the war ends…

So this little bit of virtue signaling, and “removal of conservative elements”, is rather moot. Which makes it all the more amusing, as it is now purely academic

I bet those women that complained were among the first to flee the country, too, come February 24…

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Filo76 7 points ago +7 / -0

Orange is the new … Slav?

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JustHereForTheSalmon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Welcome to the modern world, where the only service workers that wear skirts are men.

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LastRights 4 points ago +4 / -0

rofl, looks like they're wearing 80s suits from Miami Vice.

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norwegianwikin 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's nuWomen, pencil skirts make their cock bulge to obvious.

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Diaboli-Sem 3 points ago +4 / -1

Unpopular opinion time.

I'm not a big fan of the traffic cone orange color, but the uniforms look professional, pragmatic, and comfortable, certainly more so than wearing a tight skirt and heels for eight hours a day.

Every woman I've ever talked to about high heels said they are uncomfortable, but they wear them to look good.

I actually find women more attractive when they are dressed more pragmatically. It indicates that they are more concerned with getting shit done than with being eye candy.

The things we associate with female glamor, like high heels and long nails, are deliberately the opposite of useful, because they are women's way of signalling that they are so well provided for that they don't need to labor, so they can afford to be impractical. It's like women advertising that they are high maintenance.

So I'm not going to lose any sleep over flight attendants trying to make their shitty jobs better by wearing something more comfortable.

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Hand_Of_Node 2 points ago +2 / -0

But they don't look good. It's an instant total loss of respect.

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ernsithe 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't disagree per se but their job is to give a 60 second safety review and push a drink cart. The rest of the job is to present the image of the airline wants their brand to have and quite often appearance and practicality are in opposition.

The job could be done just as well in colored polos and khakis but then that airline's brand is going to be in line with a brand like Best Buy or Target and I'm going to expect 20% off mailers from them.

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Assassin47 1 point ago +1 / -0

I actually find women more attractive when they are dressed more pragmatically.

I guess everyone has a fetish for something so I can't fault you for that. ;)

Not sure about long nails but high heels at least make a woman look taller and accentuate her standing figure, so it's more about attractiveness than a status symbol.

flight attendants trying to make their shitty jobs better

Eh, there are a hundred harder jobs they could have chosen but they wanted to be flight attendants. I know women who would love to have a career where they can fly around the world for free. When we're calling that a shitty job now, I'm not sure what the standard for a good job is anymore. TBF SkyUp might have been a glorified regional bus, but still.

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Unknownsailor 2 points ago +3 / -1

I wouldn't want to wear a skirt and heels either. When I fly it is in basketball shorts and a tee shirt made out of some sort of wicking synthetic material. I have a hard enough time flying as a big and tall person on passenger jets designed for little people, no point in making myself any more uncomfortable than I need to be.

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bamboozler1 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah, but you’re not paid to be there.

I’m sorry, but there is a difference between paying to be in a situation, and simply wearing the uniform your job requires and not complaining.

I’m actually not on the side of the hostesses here. We all have to wear, and do, shit we don’t want to, while at work.

Personally, I don’t really think that this should have been their major worry, as Ukrainian air hostesses on a fucking budget airline, but anyway, here we are…

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Hand_Of_Node 1 point ago +1 / -0

We all have to wear, and do, shit we don’t want to, while at work.

No. Or pay me $10,000 per hour.

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bamboozler1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here’s a thought - this is, or was, a Ukrainian budget carrier…

Failing a bailout, do you really think they are still going to be in business/any of these women will still be in the country..??

So their inane virtue signaling makes zero difference now.

Life, uhh, comes at you fast, and such.

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bamboozler1 2 points ago +2 / -0

In no small dose of irony, I do believe there was some degree of controversy last year with Ukrainian female military “cadets” being made to march in high heels…

I very, very much doubt that it is coincidental that this happened around the same time…

Besides, both of these things are largely irrelevant, in Ukraine, now, so…

Fuck it, wear the damn high heels. Your ancestors managed. Every other goddamn flight attendant managed. Suck it up, embrace the prestige it brings, and frankly… Enjoy the fact that you’re wearing something that doesn’t look like a goddamn prison uniform. I don’t really care that this is unpopular even here - there’s a reason that this role is rapidly losing its prestige and respect, and frankly I do not think airlines should lean further into that.

There. That’s my hot take.

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Adamrises 1 point ago +3 / -2

I'm honestly fine with it, dress codes are almost always bureaucratic bullshit masquerading as "respectability and image."

But of course its only when women are effected do they care to change them, ever. Which makes the petty part of me oppose them just because fuck em.

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Vicenzo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Eh that's why you have slob fashion and it's denigrating effects everywhere. I would imagine a bit of dressing up is useful to the average middle class consumer.

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Adamrises 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is a difference between preventing denigration and strict dress codes without any deviation.

I did mandatory school uniforms for most of my youth. All it did was make everyone more miserable, siphon shit tons of money out of people who really couldn't afford it (it was preached to be "helping" them in the first place), and help them treat us more like little ants.

A baseline is fine, a list of "hey none of this" would improve most places. A list of "ONLY this small thing is allowed" is less so, wherein most of the rules exist so an anal manager can nitpick at you over nothing of value.

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Vicenzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never had school uniforms but I prob would have liked them. They do invite over eager assholes to nitpick your dress tho.

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Adamrises 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are awful because of all the factors that aren't considered.

Such as the fact that you might get two total uniforms for the entire year that don't fit by the half point, because all local stores know you must buy them and jack the price up massively and you outgrow everything because you are a child. So unless you come from a family that can afford hundreds upon hundreds of dollars constantly throughout the year, you are stuck in uncomfortable raggedy and smelly clothes constantly.

And it goes beyond assholes. Authoritarians, who love to work at schools to begin with, now get full government backing to suspend or punish you for infractions like "belt not black enough" or forgetting to button your polo all the way.

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trump4045 0 points ago +1 / -1

Skirts are too feminine, same with dresses. its part of the progressive push. I would say Jewkraine was subverted but its not a real country anyways.

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Knife-TotingRat -2 points ago +4 / -6

Not everyone ever did like wearing the fucking things. Especially in winter. YOU wear bare legs in -10 or worse and see how lovely it is.

Just like men in the weird cultures like to wear things that other people call skirts and dresses.

Wanna wear that shit? Knock yerself out, but don't expect everyone to want to just because of sex.n And what you want to see other people in has no bearing on anything.

Yes, the trannies SHOULD go live in the middle east or scotland, smartass. Frankly, I think skirts and dresses for for flthy pervs.

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Ahaus667 15 points ago +16 / -1

As a male from the us north I still regularly walk outside in the snow in nothing but boxers. Quit bitching.

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bamboozler1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Something something “good times weak men” something something…

I’m surprised that thinking this is a shit move makes me a “sexist dinosaur” even here, apparently, lol…

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Adamrises 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'd feel bad, but in just as many if not more workplaces women have a multitude more options for dress code than men, to a point where its almost hilarious how unbalanced it is.

You know what's great about skirts? You have the option to wear them when its 100 degrees while I'm in khakis. And then when its freezing you can have the choice to wear warmer clothes depending on your physical limits, while I still have the same khakis.

But I guess we found the rare place women were at a disadvantage, so we gotta fix that instantly and make a big deal of it.

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Knife-TotingRat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, how about we lament that you're not wearing a three-piece suit with a necktie and a shirt buttoned to the Adam's apple every day any more? Like my grandfather, who didn't even deal with people, and didn't really need to impress anyone, but had to dress like that anyway.

Some jobs still require it, but they're the same jobs where a woman's more likely to still wear a skirted suit.

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Adamrises 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some jobs still require it, but they're the same jobs where a woman's more likely to still wear a skirted suit.

That's literally my point, that some job that requires it for me allows her the ability to "more likely" wear the skirt but still have the option to wear the suit, or a pants suit, or etc.

Also back in your granddaddy's age, women wearing pants was culturally frowned upon and controversial. Her options were limited as well, which is where the airline likely kept the tradition from because lack of competition means no need for progress.

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Knife-TotingRat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I know, my granny wore a dress to her job as a book-keeper at an old-school-style department store (think Grace Bros from Are you Being Served?).

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bamboozler1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Australian movie about the exact equivalent of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies_in_Black_(film)

Ladies in Black, the department store is meant to be either Mark Foy's, Horden's (both defunct) or David Jones, depending on who you ask.

We also have Myer, which is the Melbourne equivalent (because everything Sydney has, Melbourne has to have its own version).

Anyway, it's a decent movie, if you like that sort of... Period fluff.

Personally, while there are some things I find... Uncomfortable, from that time period, women actually dressing in women's clothes is certainly not one of them.

While we're on this topic, there's also "The Dressmaker", but I didn't like that one anywhere near as much. It's... Brutal. Same sort of general "theme", however.

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ernsithe 1 point ago +1 / -0

YOU wear bare legs in -10 or worse

It would really suck. I hope some day they figure out a way to heat the cabins of airliners. But where are you going to get hot air on a jet? Very difficult problem.