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The “Alex Stein Law” or SB1100 was just enacted in California by Gov Newsom to stop people from mocking politicians at public meetings (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by YesMovement 3 years ago by YesMovement +74 / -0
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– altmehere 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

SB 1100 would enhance public access to meetings and enhance the democratic process

ensuring public meetings can be safe places

These things are inherently at odds.

In fact, the reason the bill exists is to justify, as the bill says, "[imposing] a limitation on the public’s right of access to the meetings of public bodies or the writings of public officials and agencies within the meaning." And presumably all they would need is a heckler's veto to kick you out.

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– GeneralBoobs 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

This won't stand up against any real Court.

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– Ahaus667 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

we have real courts still?

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– Hand_Of_Node 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

Yes, they come in a variety of calibers.

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– Ahaus667 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

reminds me of the 8mm versus 9mm joke

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– Ahaus667 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Basically if you ask a person which is bigger they will always say 9mm, but 8mm is a shouldered bullet used in rifles like the Mauser 98 series (Gewehr 98 is the most famous model). So you’re basically asking someone to pick between a pistol bullet and a sniper bullet with the lay man thinking the pistol bullet is better.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– OmegaBird 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I was wondering this myself, thanks!

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– elleand202 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The MG 42 is another famous.gun that fires 8 mm Mauser. Its probably the most iconic German machine gun of all time.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

I doubt SCOTUS in its current composition would uphold something this blatantly unconstitutional. The problem is how hard it would be to get it to SCOTUS in the first place. You would have to go through the pozzed 9th Circuit or the even more pozzed state court system to fight this and hope SCOTUS doesn't deny cert following an unfavorable ruling.

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– Skywise 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

That’s a direct violation of the first amendment…

Not that they care.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

how can they claim he is a heckler when he does a dead-pan delivery of his message? if you didnt know anything about him or look at his site he would sound the same as any serious lunatic speaking at public meetings who are serious with their speech. This is based on the law believing it knows what you are thinking. A fucking thought crime.

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– alucard13mmfmj 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Probably only protects lefties.

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– Vicenzo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Probably?

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– Kienan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

"Hey, stop pointing out how retarded we are, that's our job!" - The politicians.

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– CoolAsACucumber 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Archived Tweet:

https://archive.ph/uaVmZ

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– OmegaBird 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Throw rotten onions at them in public.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Rotten potatoes smell worse.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You didn't think lese-majeste would be allowed until Democrat rule, did you?

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– deleted 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0
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– tylerthet3 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Safetyism is a feminine cancer in the west. Safetyism and its followers are part of the reason the COVID-fiasco happened.

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– deleted 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0
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– tylerthet3 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I didn't invent it for what that is worth. The word has been used for a while.

Off the top of my head, OSHA started in the 1970's with Nixon (safety culture from that), and hard hats were first used for the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge as far as I know (I think in the 1930's or 1940's).

So, safetyism has been here for a bit now. Think about all the children wearing helmets while riding a bicycle rather slowly. Children didn't wear helmets in the past.

Think about how often you hear the phrase "Safety First" as opposed to "Break a Leg." Think about when you first heard the phrase "Safety First."

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– almond_activator 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Not sure I would object to worksite helmets (or ballistic helmets, if there are going to be ballistic projectiles). Kids helmets are kind of a joke - they'd be better off wearing mouthguards, statistically speaking.

I think 'safety' is just another word that's lost its meaning in the last century. It used to be a matter of protecting yourself from something imminently dangerous, and now it's about protecting yourself from the mundane.

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– tylerthet3 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I think worksite helmets are overused by some bosses. I am not saying they are a bad invention, just overused and probably overcited by OSHA.

The etymology of safety is interesting from etymonline:

https://www.etymonline.com/word/safety

Maybe security or secure should be used instead of safe. Stay secure versus stay safe. I like the word secure (thinking how one would secure oneself when climbing a mountain)

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– almond_activator 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I'm partial to caution. One can only be cautious while actually doing something.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Regardless there's a pretty big difference between wearing a hard hat because someone might drop something from a ladder because it might brain you and not letting people speak because it might make you re think a leftist position.

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– Knife-TotingRat 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It was the motto in every (above-ground) workplace I've worked at, some of which were genuinely dangerous.

But in factories and construction sites and kitchens, yes, it's a sensible rule. Always be aware of your surroundings, and be up on your safety protocols. Though people wear more equipment than they did 30 or 40 years ago, most of it makes a damn bunch of basic sense. The province I'm in is based on dangerous jobs for the most part ... Fort MacMurray is where young Newfies go to die.

BUT, it has leaked out into the general use area somewhat too much. Look at the assholes wanting to genocide entire species for to "stay safe", when the solution is "stay the fuck out of their habitats and in your own, dumb human snotlickers."

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– tylerthet3 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The first thing that I think of is corona-insanity when I think of safety culture unfortunately. There are legitimate reasons to prevent workplace injuries and deaths through the use of proper engineering controls, workplace management, PPE, and general awareness. This is actually useful. I would prefer OSHA and MSHA not existing, and this be done at a state-level though.

I just don't want anything to do with the plastic barriers at stores, useless and dangerous face masks, testing kits, or injections as safety items. They aren't preventing deaths and can't prevent deaths. They are just dangerous scams and have caused so much unnecessary suffering.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Welcome to my fucking world for the last 20 years. I wince when people say "Stay safe" as a goodbye, and I say, which I know sounds weird, but this is my duty: "Nope! Be bold!" in response.

"Safety" is a cancer which has been growing since the early 2000s. It is so transparently cowardly an ethos that I thought it was a silly joke or a meme at first, but it has persisted. It is antithetical and ruinous to everything about the American ideal and to anything helpful to personal success.

I assume the cult of safety, much like faggotry, feminism, and the most recent Cult of Alarming Sniffles, is a campaign.

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– Assassin47 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

"Nope! Be bold!"

That is excellent and I'm going to have to steal it. 👌

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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I hope that you do so, and we meme our way back to civilization. Hopefully, then you can join me in stage 2, which is extinctifying the ridiculous fist-bump, which has perniciously gobbled up the handshake--first by that ridiculously obvious quisling Obama, then in the name of a "safer greeting" under covid tyranny.

The handshake is a warm, friendly gesture of vulnerability and therefore trust. An embrace, no weapons, right? What the hell are we doing with this punching-knuckle bullshit? It's Chicago gangland toughguy-wannabe bitch nonsense, and it needs to be rejected into extinction.

Which I do, and I hope you do too. Reach out for a handshake, and if they give you a closed fist in return, just wrap your open hand around their fist and give it a shake. Trust me, every time I have done this it is they who have felt a little foolish.

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– tylerthet3 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Do you take issue with phrases like "Safe travels" or giving someone "safe passage?" I feel these terms may be less cowardly than "Stay safe," and they may be older as well.

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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

"Safe travels" and "safe passage" at least assume some kind of fruitfulness, travel, movement, some sort of verve and life at least. I see those akin to the Irish blessings: "May the road rise up to meet you" and "may the wind be always at your back." They assume that the well-wishes and blessings are for some kind of adventure or productive enterprise. There's movement, growth, yearning in the words.

"Be safe" just sounds like such a flat fart of a phrase. It just sits there. It implies "Hurry back to your car. Then the car takes you home by the most direct route. Once there, dart inside and watch streaming television."

This made sense although not really, in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, when the local public library thought the sky was falling and everything was about to collapse on their heads. It has made less and less sense since, until now in which it is an alarming bunch of nonsense. It is paralyzing fear with no hope of ever existing in a state in which mere survival is not the only goal.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It is paralyzing fear with no hope of ever existing in a state in which mere survival is not the only goal.

It's almost like there is a coordinated effort between the UK, US, Western European countries, and their media lapdogs to create and maintain this pants-wetting fear of everything.

I mean, Jesus H. Christ, it's one crisis after another: the rise of neo-Marxist bureaucracy, anti-Trump hysteria, race riots, the imposition of tranny totalitarianism and the destruction of sex, legions of useless young men addicted to masturbation, armies of bums and their third-world encampments, the coof as rehearsal for world tyranny, inflation, WW III, all coming down on us relentlessly. It's no wonder some of our more fragile and simpleminded neighbors have gone off the deep end.

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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Which of course smart people recognize is death. Only in death is there no risk, and no chance of circumstance which may lead to death. Dumb people think it's just a neat idea.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Absolutely. The reasoning is exactly the same as it is for college "safe spaces": Stifling dissent, stifling divergent ideas and opinions by threatening people with prosecution for saying something challenging the current psychotic totalitarian horseshit.

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