I stayed out of the bullshit until I started getting targeted over my posts about trannies. For some reason Dom is very fond of white knighting for the ones who get caught raping children. Not only that but he claims saying they aren't human is a call to violence. So yeah, he's stretching rule 2 beyond any recognition and that's what happened in this case. Then when Ahaus667 flipped his shit over the removal removed Dom whacked him. I won't defend his response to the removal but silencing criticism of moderation is tranny janny level shit.
Absolutely. It's bullshit, and Dom needs to stop now, maybe even step down, since he's shown he can't be impartial. Literally all he ever needed to do was stop actual violent threats and the like, and shut the fuck up about everything else. That's what all mods should do, and was the whole point of both KiA2 on Reddit, and even more so over here. We don't fucking have Reddit admins looking over our shoulder here, there's no excuse for overmoderation aside from faggotry.
Have to disagree with you there. The point of KiA2 on Reddit was not to provide a free haven for Stormfags, but to prevent curation by the moderators. If you look at the sidebar on the subreddit, there's even still a rule against posting purely unrelated politics - though I suspended that one because it proved impossible to enforce evenly and fairly, and most users did not want it.
What 'overmoderation' precisely is it that you have a problem with?
Dom says the common use of slave isnt a racial slur, "because they are being described as commodities". So calling humans non-humans is okay, if they're slavic.
It's not white knighting. You just can't declare that people just deserve to die because they are a tranny, and you can't encourage others to kill themselves. I'm being completely reasonable.
Unfortunately, fighting tyrants and gay bullshit are not mutually exclusive. Heck, on the internet, it basically goes hand in hand. Then again, everything is gay bullshit if it's online.
I can assure you its far less gay when you aren't LARPing as a noble crusader against tyranny who is totally not mad, but actually doing it for the greater good of us all.
yes because being pissed and acting for the greater good are mutually exclusive. I'm glad retards like you can't hide your need to appease authority figures.
I have offered no defense of Dom, and have been banned by him numerous times on both sites. I am simply mocking you for thinking so highly of yourself.
I'm not going hard. He knows the rules, frankly because he's probably Imp.
You hate drama, but you don't see a problem with intentionally balkanizing a community with personal spats with AoV and turning it into a post? I do. It's completely unhelpful. If you want to call each other faggots in the comments, that's completely reasonable, but it's dumb to make it into a thing where the sub's main feed is dominated by personal squabbles.
Second, he was justifying political violence against law enforcement. That shit is glowposting as fuck, especially right now, considering the FBI's actions have been so aggressive as to look like they are trying to incite violence before the primaries.
From the American standpoint, the American Revolution is an inherently good thing. That means shooting at red coats is also an inherently good thing to do in order to win the revolution.
So when you compare that to the FBI, you are saying that that applies to the FBI too. You can't be allowed to do that.
You hate drama, but you don't see a problem with intentionally balkanizing a community with personal spats with AoV and turning it into a post? I do. It's completely unhelpful.
No, I thought that was pretty dumb too.
If you want to call each other faggots in the comments, that's completely reasonable, but it's dumb to make it into a thing where the sub's main feed is dominated by personal squabbles.
Again, dumb and rule breaking are different though. It's not your job to police dumb content.
Second, he was justifying political violence against law enforcement.
No, he wasn't. Also, violence against law enforcement can be justified. I could even say it's always justified, and I don't think that would be breaking rules. I'm not promoting, advocating, glorifying, or endorsing violence, merely saying there are times where, for example, self defense could apply. That's not a call for violence, and the redcoats post was even less a call for violence. But for some reason you got your panties in a bunch over a funny post that didn't break rules.
That shit is glowposting as fuck
Again, point to the rule that says glowposting is against the rules. We don't have one. It's not your job to police dumb things. It's not your job to police things you don't personally like. It's not your job to police things that almost break the rules. It's not your job to police things you think should break the rules.
Chill the fuck out, and please refrain from ruining this place, like the retard mods at halfKiA did. You don't even have Reddit admins looking over your shoulder as an excuse. And most of the rules we do have are pointless and gay anyway, and should be removed.
Again, dumb and rule breaking are different though. It's not your job to police dumb content.
Those are efforts to undermine the forum by starting flame wars and drama. This tactic is so old it pre-dates, and is the originator of "Social Justice Warrior", which was a reference to "Keyboard Warriors" who participated in Flame Wars. It is subversive, and destructive.
That's not a call for violence, and the redcoats post was even less a call for violence.
As I've said elsewhere, from an American perspective, it was good an moral to shoot at red coats to win the American revolution. When you apply that rhetoric to the FBI, you are making the same moral argument, which I can't allow.
Again, point to the rule that says glowposting is against the rules.
It's Rule 2. That's what glowposting is. Glowposting is basically an attempt to incite violent rhetoric or even violent actions, in order to channelize a forum into being easily targeted by law enforcement. That's particularly useful when one of those law enforcement agencies has become ideologically posessed, is now a political enforcement agency, and is on a god damned rampage.
The over moderation used to be a precaution to allow this community to exist on that other shitty website. Those site rules don't apply here anymore, so why so much moderation?
Conpro is a pretty nice place and there's a lot of overlap between that community and here. The rules don't make this place any better.
Who do you think the OP is? Account made 15 hours ago.
Or DoMhasMonkeypox? Account made 3 hours ago.
Or DoMtouchesKiddos? Account made 1 hour ago.
You can go look at Ahaus667's posts and see they match the screenshot in the OP. He's made at least 3 alts in under a day because of a 2 day ban. Not even Imp1 sperged out that much and he's one of the biggest, most frequent spergs on the site.
So do your two days and understand that KIA2 is not the place for bunch of jew/hitler/nazi shit flinging. Take that conversation to 4chan, we don't want it.
I support DoM's keeping this sub out of that genre of mud wrestling.
He wasn't posting 1488 shit. Dom is using a ridiculously overbroad interpretation of rule 2 and this whole thing originated in a dispute about a post removal that had nothing to do with da jooz. He got banned for his (admittedly over the top) response to the post removal. This is just Dom going full tranny janny and silencing criticism of his mod actions.
So do your two days and understand that KIA2 is not the place for bunch of jew/hitler/nazi shit flinging. Take that conversation to 4chan, we don't want it.
That's not what was happening and, personally, I've always been consistent that I'll take unpleasant speech over speech restrictions. I'd prefer Nazi shit to mods making shit up to fit their own agenda, and pushing bullshit on us. But, again, this wasn't Nazi shit anyway.
I support DoM's keeping this sub out of that genre of mud wrestling.
Not his fucking job. It's never been the moderators' jobs to police opinions. Especially if he's just freehanding it and making up new rules or interpretations thereof.
That's an extremely slippery slope, and actually the entire reason there even is a KiA2. If KiA mods hadn't gone fucking retarded - like Dom seems to be going right now - we'd still be on KiA, not KiA2.
the post was of a listed and known moderator who said calling the feds redcoats constitutes violent speech. I'm glad you aspire to be as uninformed as the average redditor.
I'm OK with us banning certain topics if we as a collective, with weight on long-term members, wish for that even if I personally disagree.
I'm not OK with the fact that we were never consulted as a community when Dom copy-and-pasted the rules. This is a stance that I've held from the beginning, btw, it's not a new reaction.
Originally it was stuck in a pinned thread, and then copied over the sidebar when newcomers had problems with it.
He has been becoming very heavy-handed for months and months (over a year? would have to check receipts), and some recent removals are far more objectionable than the past.
So we actually know (for sure) that Dom is one person, and not, like, multiple people using the account at different times..?
Because I’ve never been sure about that, and it sure as shit would explain… The sort of “split personality” we sometimes see, at least in the “mod space”…
So we actually know (for sure) that Dom is one person, and not, like, multiple people using the account at different times..?
We don't, but then the same could be said about every single poster on here and it just leads to conspiracy spirals where everyone online is a dog a bot or shill and discourse breaks down completely.
CAdmin 1 points7 months ago
Sorry, missed this post.
It's due to a temporary rule that was added in relation to the sex bots. I'll adjust the rule today.
They have some Regular Expression or other automated rules that can remove posts or ban users. It can rarely be good in case of a serial spammer, but generally I've seen it ban Kiwi links, or what are arguably innocuous appearing posts that may trigger a rule due to key words or other heuristics in case of links.
As a bot named "GlobalFilter" that performs its namesake, it's not really subtle or deceptive in any shape, but I would prefer it banned so our community can enact our preferred rules...and avoid false positives.
Are you serious? I mean, I knew it would happen, but you're being really fucking lame.
OP got downvoted a bunch here anyway, but the thread itself is full of discussion. You shutting down an active thread talking about mod actions people don't like it literally what happened to halfKiA.
Pull yourself together before you do to us what happened to halfKiA. You could have just banned the OP for ban evasion, or even done nothing at all and just let it simmer down, without removing the post.
Stop being that person. And, again, you don't even have Reddit admins to please as an excuse any more. Over-moderation should ne be a thing anyone has to worry about here. And yet...
There does exist a point where if you cease to enforce the rules, especially over somebody having a tiff, then they cease to exist at all. They are just suggestions. That's why no functioning element of society works on the "just be cool brah" principle and sometimes laws are enforced despite nobody really wanting them to be. Of all the rules nobody likes, ban evasion is probably one of the few we could all agree should be there. Especially when they flood a thread with 4+ different socks just to spam.
Like, he could have waited two days and then come back to post this and Dom would actually look like he had a personal vendetta. Instead he intentionally broke more rules to get more moderation to try and create this gay little narrative.
Also most of the discussion is calling this stupid. Almost none of it has been productive in the slightest.
The culture of mod faggotry is a bit like the monkeys reacting to with the ladder with a banana at the top:
The monkeys all got blasted with a hose when they went for the banana. Slowly the monkeys started to keep each other from the banana, to keep the water from blasting them. Eventually, you didn't even need to blast them with water to keep them away from the banana-- they kept each other from it. They did it for free,
I hate all the drama...but the overmoderation is an even bigger problem. Pretty much none of the shit that has been banned should have been.
The whole point of KiA2 is avoiding overmoderation, not sure why Dom's going so hard like this.
Leave us alone, except in the case of legitimate calls to violence or other illegal content. That's the whole point of free spech.
I stayed out of the bullshit until I started getting targeted over my posts about trannies. For some reason Dom is very fond of white knighting for the ones who get caught raping children. Not only that but he claims saying they aren't human is a call to violence. So yeah, he's stretching rule 2 beyond any recognition and that's what happened in this case. Then when Ahaus667 flipped his shit over the removal removed Dom whacked him. I won't defend his response to the removal but silencing criticism of moderation is tranny janny level shit.
Absolutely. It's bullshit, and Dom needs to stop now, maybe even step down, since he's shown he can't be impartial. Literally all he ever needed to do was stop actual violent threats and the like, and shut the fuck up about everything else. That's what all mods should do, and was the whole point of both KiA2 on Reddit, and even more so over here. We don't fucking have Reddit admins looking over our shoulder here, there's no excuse for overmoderation aside from faggotry.
Have to disagree with you there. The point of KiA2 on Reddit was not to provide a free haven for Stormfags, but to prevent curation by the moderators. If you look at the sidebar on the subreddit, there's even still a rule against posting purely unrelated politics - though I suspended that one because it proved impossible to enforce evenly and fairly, and most users did not want it.
What 'overmoderation' precisely is it that you have a problem with?
Dom says the common use of slave isnt a racial slur, "because they are being described as commodities". So calling humans non-humans is okay, if they're slavic.
It's not white knighting. You just can't declare that people just deserve to die because they are a tranny, and you can't encourage others to kill themselves. I'm being completely reasonable.
there was no drama until DoM began his tirades and clearly throwing the rules out with his justifications not even being listed in the rule he cites.
I never said the drama was your fault, or anyone's but Dom's but, fact remains, I hate it. Whoever's fault it is, it's fucking gay.
But dude. We are fighting tyrants here. Its not gay, its totally badass and manly.
Unfortunately, fighting tyrants and gay bullshit are not mutually exclusive. Heck, on the internet, it basically goes hand in hand. Then again, everything is gay bullshit if it's online.
I can assure you its far less gay when you aren't LARPing as a noble crusader against tyranny who is totally not mad, but actually doing it for the greater good of us all.
yes because being pissed and acting for the greater good are mutually exclusive. I'm glad retards like you can't hide your need to appease authority figures.
I have offered no defense of Dom, and have been banned by him numerous times on both sites. I am simply mocking you for thinking so highly of yourself.
I'm not going hard. He knows the rules, frankly because he's probably Imp.
You hate drama, but you don't see a problem with intentionally balkanizing a community with personal spats with AoV and turning it into a post? I do. It's completely unhelpful. If you want to call each other faggots in the comments, that's completely reasonable, but it's dumb to make it into a thing where the sub's main feed is dominated by personal squabbles.
Second, he was justifying political violence against law enforcement. That shit is glowposting as fuck, especially right now, considering the FBI's actions have been so aggressive as to look like they are trying to incite violence before the primaries.
Quit lying faggot, you were already repeatedly proven wrong. Step down or kill yourself, no one cares which you choose.
Really, another alt?
Why do you love being a faggot? I appealed, PROVE WHERE I VIOLATED THE RULES
From the American standpoint, the American Revolution is an inherently good thing. That means shooting at red coats is also an inherently good thing to do in order to win the revolution.
So when you compare that to the FBI, you are saying that that applies to the FBI too. You can't be allowed to do that.
You are.
No, I thought that was pretty dumb too.
Again, dumb and rule breaking are different though. It's not your job to police dumb content.
No, he wasn't. Also, violence against law enforcement can be justified. I could even say it's always justified, and I don't think that would be breaking rules. I'm not promoting, advocating, glorifying, or endorsing violence, merely saying there are times where, for example, self defense could apply. That's not a call for violence, and the redcoats post was even less a call for violence. But for some reason you got your panties in a bunch over a funny post that didn't break rules.
Again, point to the rule that says glowposting is against the rules. We don't have one. It's not your job to police dumb things. It's not your job to police things you don't personally like. It's not your job to police things that almost break the rules. It's not your job to police things you think should break the rules.
Chill the fuck out, and please refrain from ruining this place, like the retard mods at halfKiA did. You don't even have Reddit admins looking over your shoulder as an excuse. And most of the rules we do have are pointless and gay anyway, and should be removed.
I'm really not, this whole thing is very silly.
Those are efforts to undermine the forum by starting flame wars and drama. This tactic is so old it pre-dates, and is the originator of "Social Justice Warrior", which was a reference to "Keyboard Warriors" who participated in Flame Wars. It is subversive, and destructive.
As I've said elsewhere, from an American perspective, it was good an moral to shoot at red coats to win the American revolution. When you apply that rhetoric to the FBI, you are making the same moral argument, which I can't allow.
It's Rule 2. That's what glowposting is. Glowposting is basically an attempt to incite violent rhetoric or even violent actions, in order to channelize a forum into being easily targeted by law enforcement. That's particularly useful when one of those law enforcement agencies has become ideologically posessed, is now a political enforcement agency, and is on a god damned rampage.
Whether or not it's "justified" is irrelevant. The purpose is to make sure a forum stays up, not to run a Kantian moral seminar.
The over moderation used to be a precaution to allow this community to exist on that other shitty website. Those site rules don't apply here anymore, so why so much moderation?
Conpro is a pretty nice place and there's a lot of overlap between that community and here. The rules don't make this place any better.
Agreed, I say we vote to replace Dom with Ahaus as sole moderator. (I never see that other guy or C here)
Absolutely fucking not.
Who do you think the OP is? Account made 15 hours ago.
Or DoMhasMonkeypox? Account made 3 hours ago.
Or DoMtouchesKiddos? Account made 1 hour ago.
You can go look at Ahaus667's posts and see they match the screenshot in the OP. He's made at least 3 alts in under a day because of a 2 day ban. Not even Imp1 sperged out that much and he's one of the biggest, most frequent spergs on the site.
WHY HAVE ONE MODERATOR
the entire point of getting rid of dom would be to at least make 3. You dont fix unilateral authority by imposing unilateral authority.
Just dropping by so I can say I was here before this gets removed
Put me in the screenshot nigga.
So do your two days and understand that KIA2 is not the place for bunch of jew/hitler/nazi shit flinging. Take that conversation to 4chan, we don't want it.
I support DoM's keeping this sub out of that genre of mud wrestling.
He wasn't posting 1488 shit. Dom is using a ridiculously overbroad interpretation of rule 2 and this whole thing originated in a dispute about a post removal that had nothing to do with da jooz. He got banned for his (admittedly over the top) response to the post removal. This is just Dom going full tranny janny and silencing criticism of his mod actions.
no such thing as over the top when it comes to tyrants
That's not what was happening and, personally, I've always been consistent that I'll take unpleasant speech over speech restrictions. I'd prefer Nazi shit to mods making shit up to fit their own agenda, and pushing bullshit on us. But, again, this wasn't Nazi shit anyway.
Not his fucking job. It's never been the moderators' jobs to police opinions. Especially if he's just freehanding it and making up new rules or interpretations thereof.
That's an extremely slippery slope, and actually the entire reason there even is a KiA2. If KiA mods hadn't gone fucking retarded - like Dom seems to be going right now - we'd still be on KiA, not KiA2.
the post was of a listed and known moderator who said calling the feds redcoats constitutes violent speech. I'm glad you aspire to be as uninformed as the average redditor.
I'm OK with us banning certain topics if we as a collective, with weight on long-term members, wish for that even if I personally disagree.
I'm not OK with the fact that we were never consulted as a community when Dom copy-and-pasted the rules. This is a stance that I've held from the beginning, btw, it's not a new reaction.
Originally it was stuck in a pinned thread, and then copied over the sidebar when newcomers had problems with it.
He has been becoming very heavy-handed for months and months (over a year? would have to check receipts), and some recent removals are far more objectionable than the past.
So we actually know (for sure) that Dom is one person, and not, like, multiple people using the account at different times..?
Because I’ve never been sure about that, and it sure as shit would explain… The sort of “split personality” we sometimes see, at least in the “mod space”…
We don't, but then the same could be said about every single poster on here and it just leads to conspiracy spirals where everyone online is
a doga bot or shill and discourse breaks down completely.I have never had any reason to believe that Dom is more than 1 person, be it on Reddit or WIN.
Faggot at times - a lot in the last year - sure, but multiple personalities? No.
What if unknown scored/.win superbeings can get into any login (ex. Spez) including moderators? Surely that seems quite possible.
Sure, but we put our faith in the platform when choosing it over SaidIt, Poal, and other alternatives in the 1st place.
They have been transparent with GlobalFilter - which you can apparently ban - as noted in mod logs, and the presence of "C" under Moderators.
If WIN has or later goes rogue, not much to do other than to realize it and select a new platform.
Nothing so far has convinced me that this isn't just Dom being retarded though. I mean, it's not like some didn't raise the same concerns within the sticky - https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/GIJF3rpD/welcome-ashore/
Tell me more, wth is that Global Filter? I've seen it remove a diverse panoply of posts and comments.
It's a cross-WIN platform filter that removes comments. I don't know if it's ever been documented somewhere, but I did see the admins respond here - https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/141EiMCCpi/why-does-globalfilter-remove-the/c
They have some Regular Expression or other automated rules that can remove posts or ban users. It can rarely be good in case of a serial spammer, but generally I've seen it ban Kiwi links, or what are arguably innocuous appearing posts that may trigger a rule due to key words or other heuristics in case of links.
As a bot named "GlobalFilter" that performs its namesake, it's not really subtle or deceptive in any shape, but I would prefer it banned so our community can enact our preferred rules...and avoid false positives.
Interesting idea I hadn't thought of. You're on to something and upvoted.
You fucking beclowned yourself.
Ayo KIA3 when
We're already up to 5.
PUT ME IN THE SCREENSHOT SENPAI!!!!
Boohooo waaahahaha! Let us turn your sub into just another middle school locker room where we do nothing but bitch about the joooooz.
Fuck off.
Oh look another wannabe R/dickgirls moderator
Go back to Quantico, fed. I hear you guys have some nuclear launch codes to invent.
why are you advocating violence?
again, wannabe R/dickgirls moderator projecting
Comment Reported for: Rule 3 - Harassment
You are being baited.
Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech
I don't see how.
This place is literally the same shithole as r/KiA but now I need a new set of keys.
It wouldn't be KIA without drama.
And it's RealDoctorJester of all people unfortunately lol
He continues to be totally not mad, and totally laughing at all of us actually.
And he certainly isn't mad that nobody clicked on his youtube videos despite months of spamming them on both sites.
My God, that was tiresome; the guy has negative charisma.
Hahaha of course it is. Of course…
Guy really doesn’t make it easy to “cut him slack”, at times, I must say…
you can get your point across without sperging out
Post Reported for:
Post Removed: It's obvious ban evasion by Ahaus667
Why do you have monkeypox?
...
Are you serious? I mean, I knew it would happen, but you're being really fucking lame.
OP got downvoted a bunch here anyway, but the thread itself is full of discussion. You shutting down an active thread talking about mod actions people don't like it literally what happened to halfKiA.
Pull yourself together before you do to us what happened to halfKiA. You could have just banned the OP for ban evasion, or even done nothing at all and just let it simmer down, without removing the post.
Stop being that person. And, again, you don't even have Reddit admins to please as an excuse any more. Over-moderation should ne be a thing anyone has to worry about here. And yet...
I'm doing it because it's ban evasion. Bans don't mean anything if nothing is actually done.
Besides, I gave him a whole other thread to bitch about me on! This is his third one!
Doing nothing might be neat, but he'll also make five more posts.
There does exist a point where if you cease to enforce the rules, especially over somebody having a tiff, then they cease to exist at all. They are just suggestions. That's why no functioning element of society works on the "just be cool brah" principle and sometimes laws are enforced despite nobody really wanting them to be. Of all the rules nobody likes, ban evasion is probably one of the few we could all agree should be there. Especially when they flood a thread with 4+ different socks just to spam.
Like, he could have waited two days and then come back to post this and Dom would actually look like he had a personal vendetta. Instead he intentionally broke more rules to get more moderation to try and create this gay little narrative.
Also most of the discussion is calling this stupid. Almost none of it has been productive in the slightest.
The old saying exists for a reason.
You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey.
Same with reddit mods.
The culture of mod faggotry is a bit like the monkeys reacting to with the ladder with a banana at the top:
The monkeys all got blasted with a hose when they went for the banana. Slowly the monkeys started to keep each other from the banana, to keep the water from blasting them. Eventually, you didn't even need to blast them with water to keep them away from the banana-- they kept each other from it. They did it for free,