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"Propaganda very often works better for the educated than it does for the uneducated." - Chomsky (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by NotAGlowy 3 years ago by NotAGlowy +81 / -0
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– TentElephant 43 points 3 years ago +43 / -0

Communists obsess over literacy because it makes the masses easier to propagandize. Mid-wits are the most vulnerable to this because it takes a modicum of intelligence to rationalize away the obvious reality in front of their eyes.

A proper classical education, as has been taught going back to at least Socrates, will confirm natural prejudices and is really only useful for elites that are capable of it. Most people don't need anything more than 8th grade, and any more is deleterious to them as that is time better spent learning useful skills through doing practical work.

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

Nowhere was this more obvious, recently, than in the survey on vaccine hesitancy among 5 million Americans in the US. A neat inverted bell with the lowest and highest educated at each end, with the mid-wits squatting in the centre screaming for their boosters.

The interesting thing which is not shown in the simplistic infographics is that it collected opinions across 5 months, from Jan-May 2021. During this time the bell reshaped slightly. The effect of several months of increasing propaganda was to slightly reduce the vaccine hesitancy of the most suggestible people - mid-wits and the least educated - whereas among PhDs vaccine hesitancy actually went up until they were the most hesitant group, overtaking the instinct-only builds.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I'd be curious to know how the type of degree (or more to the point the usefulness of the degree) affects this. A PhD in data science and a PhD in gender studies have very different IQ requirements.

As for myself I was pretty undecided on the vax for a long time. It was the attempts to force me to get it that pushed me into the absolute no camp. Any attempts by the "experts" to dictate your life should be fought hard.

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

For me the interesting part is that it's bimodal, because it tells us about the characteristics of the centre. It's not just simply an IQ curve since in that case you'd be unlikely to get such a strong refusal from high school dropouts compared to masters degrees. The kind most likely to respond to the messaging - which has all been appeals to authority, appeals to morality, appeals to shame and outward perception - seem to be the same kind who place value on academic qualifications and think they reflect a person's value.

PhDs are least susceptible possibly less because of their IQ and more because they're the participants in academia who see it for what it really is, having gone through it all. In that sense I wouldn't be surprised if there's not much difference in signal regardless of the type of PhD, since those possessing bullshit qualifications are well poised to know how worthless they really are.

But more realistically you would probably see a disparity, since the non-STEM, African Dance Therapy type PhDs probably correspond to political affiliation, which does produce a clear signal in propaganda susceptibility.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It was the attempts to force me to get it that pushed me into the absolute no camp. Any attempts by the "experts" to dictate your life should be fought hard.

This influenced my decision to avoid vaccination as well.

Ain't got the coof yet; tested positive but had zero symptoms.

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– cartoonericroberts 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

This feels right. I spent a month or two wearing mask because it "made sense" I'm not sure why. Then I was like, "oh, the air flows around" which before seemed stupid but then seemed true.;

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– deleted 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Hence why they butchered Chinese

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– TakenusernameA 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

Man-made global warming is about as real as the easter bunny. Only reason why the narrative is still around is because a fresh batch of suckers leaves high school every year.

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– nonameman 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

The idea that we as a species can't effect the climate is silly. Of course we can, we do it in miniature all the time. We have plans to do it on Mars, where we call it teraforming. The question is how much and how big a problem is it.

Also climate alarmists are stupid and can't seem to do math.

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– realerfunction 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

their "solutions" are always global communism.

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– FatalConceit 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Hegelian Dialectic - Create the Problem for what you really want. They wanted communism so they created Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming - which of course only communism can fix. Fucking Absurd nonsense from lowlife scum

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– elleand202 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Its because they're watermelons.

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– TentElephant 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

You just don't understand my magical math model that no one is allowed to see that justifies my published paper and passed peer-review, even though the reviewers weren't allowed to see my math either.

If we don't take drastic measures now, in ten years we will have ten years before a ten year prediction that ten years later everyone might die in ten years if drastic action isn't taken within ten years after that.

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– blackestknight 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

We have plans to do it on Mars, where we call it teraforming.

Yeah, we'll just launch the Genesis torpedo at Mars and it'll become a lush green paradise.

Oh wait, that's science fiction.

We're not even sure of the logistic of sending more than a remote controlled car to Mars, even less what it would take to bring enough water over there to even think of managing of creating an atmosphere and then cold booting life.

You're quite overplayhing how realistic the plans are at this stage. Heck, if we're just talking about ideas people had, we also "have plans" to build a Dyson swarm around the sun by deconstructing Mercury using self replicating robots. Anyday now, like we're really close.

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– nonameman 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Brilliant, that's totally what I suggested. Magic torpedos. You are totally right I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Or we could admit that people can effect their environment. That we absolutely caused the dust bowl in the 30's with irresponsible farming and the ozone hole in the 80's due to strange chemicals. We fixed those problems, and I believe we can fix climate change (if it's even turns out to be a big deal), but the idea that we can't do any harm no matter how careless we are is short-sighted and irresponsible.

  The biggest problem is the people telling us we're all going to die in 10 years are authoritarian liars who just want to control us; and the people telling us it's no big deal are the people making billions of dollars a year creating the problem and will undoubtedly make billions more fixing the problem when it becomes too big.  Neither group can be trusted so we're stuck in the middle doing nothing.
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– blackestknight 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Brilliant, that's totally what I suggested. Magic torpedos. You are totally right I have no idea what I'm talking about.

First, they aren't "magic", they're science fiction. 2nd, no you have no idea what you're talking about if you bring up Terraforming planets (a currently very science fiction prospect we're no where near turning into science not fiction).

Or we could admit that people can effect their environment.

Sure, I've planted a tree or two myself.

The question isn't whether we can or cannot, it's whether we're really having such an effect on a plantery scale. And so far, with all the climate science we've seen, it's more alarmism than facts.

and the ozone hole in the 80's due to strange chemicals. We fixed those problems

Nice of you to bring that up. Following the Montreal protocol, scientists finally discovered that the famous Ozone hole was in fact not a hole per se, it was a seasonal shift Ozone density. Also, China and other countries never implemented the Montreal Protocol, and still use CFCs to this day.

And you know what ? The Ozone density has replenished much faster than predicted, with predictions based on 100% adherance to the Montreal protocol.

So obviously, scientists kinda goofed that one. Big panic, lack of understanding of the underlying phenomena. But sure, we "fixed" it after "causing" it.

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– nonameman 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
 I agree absolutely that climate science is more alarmism than facts. I'm old and the climate alarmists have been predicting imminent danger since I can remember.    The only thing I'm not agreeing to is that "Man-made global warming is about as real as the easter bunny" as someone (not you) posted.   I don't believe we are in imminent danger, I do believe we can fix it, but I also have seen man made destruction with my own eyes and believe we need to be good stewards of the planet.   I'll have to better educate myself on the ozone depletion. 
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– Grumman 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Mars literally doesn't have the resources to make it Earth-like, so it's a poor example to point to. It's far more credible that you could undo a previous natural example of climate change on Earth by releasing the sequestered carbon from the Carboniferous Period.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

If we wanted to actually solve climate change it would be trivial. Oceanic iron seeding would suck all of the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and it would cost only a couple of billion dollars. And then plants would wither and die and the world would end.

Of course we could do it in small doses over a couple decades for proper regulation and not a Snowpiercer scenario but as with most problems the efficient solution does not line their pockets so they're not interested in it.

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– deleted 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0
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– TakenusernameA 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Why is it that politicians only follow through with their bad campaign promises and never the ones that would actually work?

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– blackestknight 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Education is mostly propaganda, especially history, and political science.

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– bamboozler1 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

This is true, yes, but let’s also not lionize old Chompy Gnome…

I’ve literally read a couple of his books. No matter how catchy his shit may be, the bloke is not on “our” side…

Don’t mistake a broken clock being right twice a day for some “pre-eminent wise genius”. He is quite literally a commie (as is David Suzuki, who I have actually met, in person. Spoiler alert: he was awful). Please don’t forget that…

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– FeeFiFoeFi 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

He's not giving a warning, he's teaching the elite how to control us.

His statement is true because "educated" people think of themselves as superior. And in their "superior" intelligence, they're convinced that blindly following the science is in their benefit, and rejecting must be ignorant. Pride is the first sin.

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– Bouldabassed 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Chomsky is one of either the single most stupid or single most evil people out there. But credit where credit is due; this quote is on point.

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– freespeechsquid 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Education isn't about learning information, it's about unlearning reality and feeling smart while doing it.

People who trust their eyes, their common sense and their instincts will always be better informed than a graduate of the humanities and soft sciences.

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– when_we_win_remember 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It's always 10 years away. In 10 years, when the temperature has risen 0.3 degrees C, 20% of species will be extinct. I know this faggotry doesn't work here but !remindme 10 yr

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– dekachin 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

A hotter world is simply better.

Living in cold areas sucks. Living in hot areas is perfectly fine.

All the eurocucks screeching about their hot weather could solve all their problems just by using air conditioning.

Agriculture and crops survive just fine in very hot areas, and not at all in cold ones. All human life is based on agriculture.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

“Give me a smart mark over a dumb one every single time.”

  • Frank Fontaine
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– Steampunk_Moustache 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.

George Orwell, 1945

Essentially, you have be proficient in abstract thought in order to disbelieve your lying eyes. The layman isn't great at either of these things and relies purely on the most basic observations.

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– Cazarosta 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Excelsior!!!

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– LinkR 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Must not make bukaki joke....

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– deleted 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

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