These arguments are so dishonest and stupid that I don’t even feel like addressing them. I’m not sure if this is intentional sophistry or she just has the comprehension of a child but either way the best thing to do is ignore her and let the adults set policy.
Ah, I read it back whenever it was published. Standard leftist hate rhetoric against White Christian families. Rather hysterical, and verging on the kind of sex fantasy dreams by those lefties who had sex dreams about Trump.
Nobody likes abortion, even when safe and legal. It’s not what any woman would choose for a happy time on Saturday night. But nobody likes women bleeding to death on the bathroom floor from illegal abortions either. What to do?
Well we can start by holding women accountable for their decisions, I know this is an insane request, but worth trying.
Perhaps a different way of approaching the question would be to ask: What kind of country do you want to live in? One in which every individual is free to make decisions concerning his or her health and body, or one in which half the population is free and the other half is enslaved?
Ah yes women are victims when they can’t murder something that occurred from their choices. How shocking, Atwood proves yet again that she can’t write anything even slightly factual.
Women who cannot make their own decisions about whether or not to have babies are enslaved because the state claims ownership of their bodies and the right to dictate the use to which their bodies must be put.
Notice the supposed ‘slave’ claims a completely different human being deserves to die because apparently women are not capable of choice.
The only similar circumstance for men is conscription into an army. In both cases there is risk to the individual’s life, but an army conscript is at least provided with food, clothing, and lodging. Even criminals in prisons have a right to those things. If the state is mandating enforced childbirth, why should it not pay for prenatal care, for the birth itself, for postnatal care, and – for babies who are not sold off to richer families – for the cost of bringing up the child?
Ahhh yes, conscription is better than childbirth because we don’t currently fund millions of single moms far more than the average “conscript”….. oh wait. This is a child who has never actually done anything in life other than fantasize about being a victim.
Atwood lied in the very opening sentence of her article, of course there are people who like abortions. Just look at the myriad Lilithian demoniacs who in just the past few years have proudly 'shouted their abortions', celebrated with cakes on Twitter, declared it sacred and are now openly plotting to attack churches tomorrow because Trump's Justices have threatened their most sacred rite.
I may be a bit of an extremist here, but I actually do want women who choose to have an illegal abortion to pay with their lives. Anyone who chooses to willingly kill the most defenseless human being possible deserve to pay with their life.
One in which every individual is free to make decisions concerning his or her health and body, or one in which half the population is free and the other half is enslaved?
I agree entirely. Men are forced to work, sometimes in very dangerous conditions, risking health and body but even in "mild" work, to pay for child support and/or ex-spousal support payments. And they will not have freedom, literally enslaved in that if they do not work despite not wanting to, they will be put into prison. This is the default of courts, a well-studied and well-known bias amongst even the most fervent of intersectionalists, but no one wants to address the issue. Truly, Atwood is based.
Oh wait, she's just projecting her sexual Handmaids kinks on us, nevermind.
You're not even allowed to leave? Some EU countries have crazy vaccine rules, but as far as I know, none says that it's a prison that you are not allowed to leave.
Trudeau said he "admired China's basic dictatorship" before he was elected, and the media covered for him.
Canadian mainstream media is incredibly disingenuous, and are all paid off by the Trudeau government. When Trudeau or the media are pressed about this, they just say the restrictions went away (they didn't), blame the States (because of the land border), or talk about how 90% of Canadians don't have the problem.
Most of parliament supports censoring the internet. Anything the government doesn't like, or considers misinformation would need to be removed within 24 hours. They already passed a prior attempt in Parliament, but it failed in the senate.
Only working-aged males aren't allowed to leave in Ukraine. I know, explaining the joke, but they're the only ones barred from fleeing. And they don't have trans rights, they can't just identify as women to get a freedom pass.
Being responsible for raising your child (or at least paying for it) is much, much harder and closer to actual slavery, but none of these abortionists bat an eye about that.
Being responsible for what's allegedly your child. Remember that women can lie about a child's paternity, and the government will still come to take a cut. It doesn't even matter if you can prove you aren't the father. This is because the government keeps a cut of the money paid through them, and there's no penalty for going after the wrong guy.
Feminists all but imply that fetuses just end up in the womb and that there wasn't a process, a process with many options of prevention along the way, that resulted in the outcome.
There is a narrative that this is part of a process towards "forced birthing," so they believe that the next step is removing access to birth control. The fact that this is bullshit doesn't seem to matter.
The whole thing is nothing but a slippery slope conspiracy theory that conflates abortion with women's rights, claiming that restrictions against abortion erodes women's rights and just escalates from there.
At least our slippery slope allegations about the gender identity crap revolves around complaints about how it's known pseudoscience, and how this will lead to the legalization of incest and the weakening of sex crime laws.
They didn't even exist before then. All of history barring one or two notable unique and rare examples is male because 99.99999% of women just died, instantly, the moment they realized that the USA didn't exist yet, and thus didn't have a federal court case deciding state-level law as a core component of their lives.
We know this is true as Europeans and Canadians are arguing over this, and they should, in theory, have no horse in that race unless the prior idea is true.
Nobody likes abortion, even when safe and legal. It’s not what any woman would choose for a happy time on Saturday night.
Then why did Saturday Night Live have someone dress up like a clown to talk about how abortions need to be easier to get? And why did Colbert (I think) have the "everyone needs to get an abortion!" singers on? And how many other times?
The Break with Michelle Wolf is the worst offender. She says that abortion should be as easy as streaming a movie and that abortion clinics should be proud of what they do. She then goes on to have a salute to abortion with a marching band.
These arguments are so dishonest and stupid that I don’t even feel like addressing them. I’m not sure if this is intentional sophistry or she just has the comprehension of a child but either way the best thing to do is ignore her and let the adults set policy.
Also Handmaid’s Tale sucks.
It's not meant to be entertainment, it's meant to dehumanize.
What do you mean by "watch it"? You kind of have to read each sentence to see what the story is about.
There's a shit show based off the books
Ah, I read it back whenever it was published. Standard leftist hate rhetoric against White Christian families. Rather hysterical, and verging on the kind of sex fantasy dreams by those lefties who had sex dreams about Trump.
Well we can start by holding women accountable for their decisions, I know this is an insane request, but worth trying.
Ah yes women are victims when they can’t murder something that occurred from their choices. How shocking, Atwood proves yet again that she can’t write anything even slightly factual.
Notice the supposed ‘slave’ claims a completely different human being deserves to die because apparently women are not capable of choice.
Ahhh yes, conscription is better than childbirth because we don’t currently fund millions of single moms far more than the average “conscript”….. oh wait. This is a child who has never actually done anything in life other than fantasize about being a victim.
That ship sailed a year ago, fuck you bitch.
Atwood lied in the very opening sentence of her article, of course there are people who like abortions. Just look at the myriad Lilithian demoniacs who in just the past few years have proudly 'shouted their abortions', celebrated with cakes on Twitter, declared it sacred and are now openly plotting to attack churches tomorrow because Trump's Justices have threatened their most sacred rite.
I will accept this argument only when a father can legally choose not to pay child support. Until then, its just more entitlement for women
I may be a bit of an extremist here, but I actually do want women who choose to have an illegal abortion to pay with their lives. Anyone who chooses to willingly kill the most defenseless human being possible deserve to pay with their life.
Based.
I agree entirely. Men are forced to work, sometimes in very dangerous conditions, risking health and body but even in "mild" work, to pay for child support and/or ex-spousal support payments. And they will not have freedom, literally enslaved in that if they do not work despite not wanting to, they will be put into prison. This is the default of courts, a well-studied and well-known bias amongst even the most fervent of intersectionalists, but no one wants to address the issue. Truly, Atwood is based.
Oh wait, she's just projecting her sexual Handmaids kinks on us, nevermind.
No, idiot, hack, overrated writer I read handmaids tale it was boring af. Childbirth is the consequence of getting pregnant.
It's no more slavery than having to taking a shit after eating something
Are you against colostomy, bigot?
You're not even allowed to leave? Some EU countries have crazy vaccine rules, but as far as I know, none says that it's a prison that you are not allowed to leave.
Trudeau said he "admired China's basic dictatorship" before he was elected, and the media covered for him.
Canadian mainstream media is incredibly disingenuous, and are all paid off by the Trudeau government. When Trudeau or the media are pressed about this, they just say the restrictions went away (they didn't), blame the States (because of the land border), or talk about how 90% of Canadians don't have the problem.
Most of parliament supports censoring the internet. Anything the government doesn't like, or considers misinformation would need to be removed within 24 hours. They already passed a prior attempt in Parliament, but it failed in the senate.
Of the European countries I think it's Just the Ukraine that's like that ;-)
Only working-aged males aren't allowed to leave in Ukraine. I know, explaining the joke, but they're the only ones barred from fleeing. And they don't have trans rights, they can't just identify as women to get a freedom pass.
Day of the rake fucking when???
Being responsible for raising your child (or at least paying for it) is much, much harder and closer to actual slavery, but none of these abortionists bat an eye about that.
Being responsible for what's allegedly your child. Remember that women can lie about a child's paternity, and the government will still come to take a cut. It doesn't even matter if you can prove you aren't the father. This is because the government keeps a cut of the money paid through them, and there's no penalty for going after the wrong guy.
Feminists all but imply that fetuses just end up in the womb and that there wasn't a process, a process with many options of prevention along the way, that resulted in the outcome.
There is a narrative that this is part of a process towards "forced birthing," so they believe that the next step is removing access to birth control. The fact that this is bullshit doesn't seem to matter.
The whole thing is nothing but a slippery slope conspiracy theory that conflates abortion with women's rights, claiming that restrictions against abortion erodes women's rights and just escalates from there.
At least our slippery slope allegations about the gender identity crap revolves around complaints about how it's known pseudoscience, and how this will lead to the legalization of incest and the weakening of sex crime laws.
Someone else pointed this out but Handmaid's Tale is fetish porn, like 50 Shades of Gray:
Christian: "We need to stop the murder of babies."
Feminist: "You want to rape me."
C: "uh, what?"
F: "Yeah you want to dress me in a costume, keep me as a rape slave, force me to get impregnated by wealthy upper class men..."
C: "What the hell..."
F: "..and your wives will pin me down while you ram deep inside my fertile belly..."
I'd blow her fucking mind with snake shot.
Reading Margaret Atwood is slavery
You could always just abstain from sex. Not that that would be a problem for Atwood.
who can forget the piles of dead women before roe.
They didn't even exist before then. All of history barring one or two notable unique and rare examples is male because 99.99999% of women just died, instantly, the moment they realized that the USA didn't exist yet, and thus didn't have a federal court case deciding state-level law as a core component of their lives.
We know this is true as Europeans and Canadians are arguing over this, and they should, in theory, have no horse in that race unless the prior idea is true.
Then why did Saturday Night Live have someone dress up like a clown to talk about how abortions need to be easier to get? And why did Colbert (I think) have the "everyone needs to get an abortion!" singers on? And how many other times?
Not worth reading beyond the first two sentences.
The Break with Michelle Wolf is the worst offender. She says that abortion should be as easy as streaming a movie and that abortion clinics should be proud of what they do. She then goes on to have a salute to abortion with a marching band.
Go back to advocating male genocide, you psycho.
The book was written with a sexist agenda.
In the ending of the book a history professor makes an apparently sexist remark and everyone laughs without objecting to this.
Anything popular that women write is written with a sexist agenda. Otherwise it wouldn't be popular.
Even 50 Shades is full of dehumanizing remarks about "lesser men".
Totally not slavery because it's men. If they can't pay, they can go to jail and society is silent over it.