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Found this Glorious Wall of text OMEGA-COPE on /r/ottawa (media.communities.win)
posted 4 years ago by GloboHomoErectus 4 years ago by GloboHomoErectus +52 / -0
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– FrostedCricketFlakes 30 points 4 years ago +30 / -0

built by algorithms to maximize engagement on social media to radicalization into the delusional alt-right, QAnon, anti vaccine, and conspiracy theory fueled mindset

Does this person not realize these algorithms have been crafted to do the opposite? You can't even talk about 2020 election rigging, and criticizing the shots or lab leak theory can be very dangerous. "Authoritative Sources" have a heavy bias in their favor in search algorithms and trending results. Many of them pay left wing "fact checkers," and run disclaimers on the pages of anything that goes against the narrative.

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– PraiseBeToScience 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Does this person not realize these algorithms have been crafted to do the opposite?

That's the thing about the broken minds of these shitlib communists - they only need to have one "fact", no matter how long ago it was or how incorrect it now is perceived, to hinge an entire argument on.

Notice how the guy keeps talking about the 'alt-right'. Nobody has said fuck-all about the "alt-right" in like four years. It was invented by a dude who endorsed Biden. Nobody can actually even define it. Alt-right was a pre-Trump term, and even the SPLC doesn't have a single quote about it any more recent than 2016.

They still cling to 'muh Russia' and 'inject bleach' and 'fine people', because in their world it's still real.

To them the "social media rabbit hole" is still real, even though Youtube, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook has banned almost everything conservative that isn't Ben Shapiro, and all the algorithms are engineered to completely eliminate any possible exposure. You can't even use Google anymore without it all being curated.

Did you ever notice how they still bitch about the NRA? The NRA has been completely irrelevant for the better part of a decade. The NRA has accomplished absolutely nothing post-Sandy Hook. They've won no battles. They lobby no laws. They've been shamed and abandoned by most gun owners and have embarrassed themselves repeatedly. But these idiots will still bitch about how the NRA is a 'terrorist organization' and every time the topic of guns comes up, that's all they can say. None of them have updated their brains with the new software that includes things like the SAF or GOA.

Every argument with a shitlib rehashes the same stupid fucking nonsense you've seen them kvetching about for literally over 15 years straight. It's the exact same crap about 'reality has a liberal bias'.

But somehow they're convinced they aren't in the cult. They're still crying about Richard Spencer, but everyone else is in a cult.

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– FrozeInFear 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I don't think the algorithms are doing all of that yet. I think some search results and "trends" are manually manipulated. The only thing social sites seem capable of automating is flagging key words to insert their "get ackshual facts here" disclaimer. Otherwise, they probably rely on jannies and useful idiots to report and effectively ban content from one side of the conversation.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Some people analyzed YouTube recommendations a few years ago.

One analysis charted the number of views required to trend for various channels. Mainstream consistently needed far lower views to trend, like how PBS needed only 10,000.

Another compared the "similar" recommendations be political bias. The amount of left wing content was substantially larger, but it also recommended less to left/center channels than the reverse.

You also have the banning of certain channels or terms. Steven Crowder noticed this, since you couldn't even search for one of his videos unless you typed in the complete name of the video AND his name.

"Authoritative sources" are also almost definitely going to fill the first page of many search results if its related to politics. Same goes for google search.

They even removed publicly viewing downvotes for political reasons.

There was also the "van life" trend, that started being recommended out of nowhere, starting with youtube automatically adding some random girl doing it to people's subscription list, and with only 1 or 2 videos posted to her channel.

What relies on reporting is shadow banning (excluding Reddit, which uses substantially automates this). Banning people for certain actions also relies on reports, but the rules (or interpretations) does primarily rely on the site and employee's political biases. Different handling depending on targeted race of "hate speech" is interpretation of the rules by staff while banning people for misgendering is a rule created under a political bias.

Companies are working on and improving AI to do reporting of their own, such as YouTube automatically creating transcripts, and using them (or titles) to automatically demonetize videos. The breadth of where they target with this tech will only increase, especially as governments also put in their own specialized requirements. Truth Social also uses the same censorship tech twitter does for its twitter alternative.

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– FrozeInFear 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I understand and agree with all of this. My point was nitpicking "algorithms have been crafted to do..." as a matter of their original intention.

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– DuckingDelete 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It's all just projection. That's all that these NPCs can do. They can't even see other people's points of view so they assume everyone else is doing the same evils as they are.

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– Ahaus667 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

The amount of self awareness this poster has would make narcissus himself blush. The Q Anon tie in is even funnier, they need buzzwords because they don’t have arguments. This is the kind of person who unironically says I believe in Science

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– LauriThorne 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Blue Anon is a hell of a drug

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– captain-shitpost 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

lol that's great. just need to start framing them as Blue Anon conspiracy theorists.

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– CatoTheElder 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"No! U!" is the weakest comeback in the book. Even a thirdgrader knows better.

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– deleted 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

It's so on-the-nose backwards it's not hard to imagine it's deliberate rather than a complete lack of awareness.

The, now old, saying is SJWs always project, but I think more accurately it's "deflect". They think if they can just be the first to accuse someone else of all their own failings they can control the conversation and steer attention away from themselves. These are people who have long since learned to abuse open and tolerant society by always attacking first, unobserved and unprovoked, and always immediately afterwards crying foul and demanding everyone act civilly and peacefully once they have pre-empticely extracted their pound of flesh.

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– krzyzowiec 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

He does a great job explaining the fantasy that lefties live under.

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– deleted 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0
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– WeedleTLiar 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Right?

Who was socially isolated?

The pro-freedom crowd? I've been visiting and talking to neighbors this whole time.

Oh, he means we weren't exposed to the bastion of truth that is the pro-lockdown, pro-mandate, anti-speech establishment; we haven't been fed the correct narrative.

Well, that's their own fault.

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– CanuckElhead 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

The complete lack of respect for the intelligence of others continues to astound me. It speaks of supreme narcissism that people need to be 'tricked' or 'duped' into believing things they disagree with.

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– Assassin47 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

We're not the isolated ones Mr. Big-Tech-Safe-Space-Poster.

insular communities love bomb and support one another

OK are we sure this post is a roundabout way of red-pilling people? Or at least someone trying to make them look in the mirror when they push shit like the "trans community".

I don't think the lockdowns haven't been necessary in the past for public health reasons.

So he knows more than all the science that's studied this so far. Didn't realize we were dealing with such an expert.

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– WeedleTLiar 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Nono, he's not an expert.

He listens to the experts. That way he never has to do any research for himself (unless you count watching the CBC as research).

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– irdc 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

They get so close to reality but never quite get there.

Covid did hasten the process, but only because the censorship went too far and was too fast. I don't think it had anything to do with social isolation, though I could be wrong. And, I agree with them - once you wake up, there's no going back to the delusion.

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– GeneralBoobs 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

The 'muh rabbit al-gore-ism radicals' string of anal beads shit again? These people love their fucking conspiracy theories. This is the real tin foil hatter shit.

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– subbookkeeper 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

When was the last time that guy slept?

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– ajfofjakf 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Well, if this dude is to be believed I think it's been around 4 days.

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– MuffyMangina 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I don't for one second think the lockdowns haven't been necessary in the past for public health reasons.

All opinions disregarded

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– NotaInfiltrator119 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I find this particularly funny because what they describe is a cult- just inverted. Cults usually try to insulate themselves from others, and the insistence on "counter narratives" enforces that. They don't want you listening to heretics and asking funny questions, after all.

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– TentElephant 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Shut up newfag

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

lol @ blaming algorithms for people desperately looking for anything will tell them something different to the obvious lies of MSM.

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– RoccoRatchet 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

And the gold medal in mental gymnastics goes to...

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– Hing 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

A wall of text every time. Their rationalization hamsters will achieve light speed before they either snap out of it or just snap.

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– BrainJuice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Jesus Christ. Someone wants to be the next Charles Dickens.

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– GloboHomoErectus [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Bro it's a fucking fever dream.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– captain-shitpost 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Blue Anon conspiracy theorist is too low IQ to understand that if you're on the side doing the censoring and opposing free speech, it means you're the one in the cult.

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– TechParadox 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

"Mega-Cope"? Hell, that's some of the best confession through projection I've seen in months.

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– GhostBond 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Lol, what a huge wall of Self-Projection.

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– realerfunction 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

i never hear righties talk about q anon.

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– PraiseBeToScience 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I like how in their minds 'alt-right' is still a real thing, even though it was invented by Richard Spencer under Obama and he's a Democrat who endorsed Biden.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I like to co-opt Alt-Right to refer to everyone who isn't normally right but is now classed as right because the Overton window has shifted so far.

Substitute that definition next time you read an article and see what happens.

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