Let Hitler and Stalin beat each other bloody senseless. Let Hirohito and Mao bloody each other. When evil fights evil, let them fight, and then kill the victor.
I disagree. If their goals are even worse than the enemy, how are they an ally?
I don't think their goals are even worse, but even if they were, they'd serve a valuable purpose. Can you just please read a work on IR, Realpolitik or realism - or people are going to think that you're a dumbshit.
That's if this whole thing isn't just useful idiots falling for a feminist elite agenda where they fake being oppressed by their own creation to take over the right with a "save your daughters from hairy men in dresses" tagline.
It's fantastic, and they've inflicted a greater number of defeats on the SJWs than may have been expected based on their size. So they have my stamp of approval.
Still mad about them getting what they wanted from the NDAA.
Oh, did the completely inconsequential and never to be applied draft provision get removed? Good, it acknowledges that men and women are different.
I don't. In fact, I think it's great if they have hysterectomies, because them not having children moves the human race in a more sane direction. That said, I don't like how they recruit the children of good and decent people.
Mary Wollstonecraft, Simone de Beauvoir, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Nadezhda Krupskaya, bell hooks, Catherine MacKinnon, Sally Miller Gearhart, Kate Millett, Carol Hanisch, Marilyn Frye, Sheila Jeffreys, Julie Bindel, Virginia Held, Camille Paglia, Iris Marion Young, Susan Moller Okin, Chandra Mohanty, Claudia Card, Ingrid Robeyns.
Notice that everyone on my list is considered a thought leader and an ideological influence on the feminist movement, while half of yours are armchair activists and internet celebrities.
The pattern you're trying to illustrate doesn't exist. You're just gaslighting like a leftist.
I remember when people thought she was a good feminist.
They thought that because all they knew about her was that she had, through her experience with women in domestic violence shelters, realised that feminist narratives about domestic violence were complete fucking nonsense.
Somehow, people thought this one bit of awareness, born of her own direct experience, meant she understood the reality of things she had not experienced. This would have beena reasonable expectation, but it would require Paglia to have taken the realization that feminism was talking out of its arse on domest violence, and asked herself the question 'What else is feminism wrong about, and why am I calling myself a feminist when I know they are wrong?'
These are questions she has never, ever asked herself. She uncritically swallows feminist dogma on that which she has no direct experience of herself. Like the person who keeps reading the same newspaper even after seeing them get something completely backwards.
It is. I don't know why some have such a visceral reaction to what you say, but the flame wars are always fun to read. You're probably the only person here that can create a post that gets 60 comments within an hour.
All of this works for me. I don't know if you're referring to this community or the right in general but at least here I rarely see anyone defending TERF's. The most positive thing that people here are willing to say is that they're right about trannies, but for the wrong reasons. If the tranny problem were confined to them targeting women I'd say let them get fucked the bed they made. But trannies drag EVERYONE into their bullshit, so they're our problem too. We shouldn't be in the business of saving TERFs from their own bullshit backfiring, but we shouldn't tolerate the shit they subject us to just to spite the TERFs either.
You talked a lot about what we should do. Now let's talk about what we can do. What can men in the West actually do? Women are the majority of voters. Nothing is going to get rolled back to a culture you are comfortable with. This train has no stops.
Why get involved when your enemies are fighting each other? There's been no defense, only drawing attention so that we can laugh at it. Get over yourself, your paranoia is reaching new extremes.
Half of women's issues are solely supported because they're women's issues.
I don't give a damn about women's issues, but if a someone is wronged, it doesn't matter to me if that someone is a man or a woman. It sounds crazy to have to even say this.
Would men give a shit about abortion if women didn't give long, emotional arguments about it that make people feel sorry for them?
Yes, because then they'd be on the hook for the stupid brats.
Listen, I know you think women are the literal devil and such as, but the problem here is simple biology. Once the child is born, it is very hard for a woman to part with her own child. If you think all abortions will be replaced by adoptions, you are deluding yourself.
It's mostly men who benefit from abortion, and women who suffer from it, because they end up with the psychological scars for having done such a misdeed.
I also think if abortion didn't exist, baby trapping wouldn't be attempted as much
Is this like that other thing that you claimed happens a lot, but then it turned out that your only evidence for it was the "well, MRAs talked about it once"?
Yet academic papers exist (which I've posted) talking about how women are more likely to kill babies and toddlers.
The funny thing is, I've repeatedly challenged you to show the percentage of women who do that, and you've never been able to reply. Because all you can do is show that 60% of children are killed by women, and 40% by men. The true percentage is of course infinitesimal, because if people were predisposed to kill their own children, they wouldn't be here today.
They don't even feel the slightest bit of pain. It's like when people say the OnlyThots feel used. They don't. Every payment to them is not degrading, but a tithe to a goddess.
In the war between TERFs and TRAs, I actually support TRAs (other than the kids stuff). TRAs' agitation for gender neutral everything is doing more for equality than decades of MRA efforts.
For example by making it easier to change your gender to F (without surgery or chemical castration) it finally allows men to bypass unfair laws in employment, education and funding. What MRA actions in 30 years comes even close to that?
We will never get rid of feminism because women love it. However, we can at least get closer to equality so the impact of feminism on men is lessened.
I think this should be what men do in November instead of growing mustaches. Since most wars men have fought in have resulted in nothing but them losing their lives for no reason, espcially since the list now includes ww1 and ww2, I think men need a new honorarium. That lasts a month if not longer.
We don't like TERFs either, but for different reasons than TRAs.
even the most based te is still an rf
They still want to castrate and/or kill boys and men for the crime of being boys or men.
who+where are these people cucking out for the terfs tho
Anyone fighting against SJWs is an ally.
Negative, Ghost Rider. As much as I don't mind talking to the anti-idpol dirt bag left, they are still leftists. Fuck commies.
There is no connection. But there is a nazi-Marxist connection.
Let Hitler and Stalin beat each other bloody senseless. Let Hirohito and Mao bloody each other. When evil fights evil, let them fight, and then kill the victor.
I don't think their goals are even worse, but even if they were, they'd serve a valuable purpose. Can you just please read a work on IR, Realpolitik or realism - or people are going to think that you're a dumbshit.
It's fantastic, and they've inflicted a greater number of defeats on the SJWs than may have been expected based on their size. So they have my stamp of approval.
Oh, did the completely inconsequential and never to be applied draft provision get removed? Good, it acknowledges that men and women are different.
Until traditional roles are returned to society, men shouldn't have to go to war and die for women's benefit.
Or rather, girls who falsely claim to be male to cure their defect of femaleness.
It's most of them today, and it's applauded by the autogynephiliacs who want affirmation for their sickening fetish.
I don't. In fact, I think it's great if they have hysterectomies, because them not having children moves the human race in a more sane direction. That said, I don't like how they recruit the children of good and decent people.
You want to completely D&C western civilization so we can finally be snuffed out by Chang and Hershowitz?
Judith Butler, Andrea Dworkin, Naomi Klein, Gloria Steinem, Emma Faber, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Louise Weiss, Betty Friedan, Kate Bornstein, Emma Goldman, Naomi Wolf, Ariel Levy, Emma Sulkowicz, Gloria Allred, Laurie Penny, Liat Kaplan
Post nose.
Mary Wollstonecraft, Simone de Beauvoir, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Nadezhda Krupskaya, bell hooks, Catherine MacKinnon, Sally Miller Gearhart, Kate Millett, Carol Hanisch, Marilyn Frye, Sheila Jeffreys, Julie Bindel, Virginia Held, Camille Paglia, Iris Marion Young, Susan Moller Okin, Chandra Mohanty, Claudia Card, Ingrid Robeyns.
Notice that everyone on my list is considered a thought leader and an ideological influence on the feminist movement, while half of yours are armchair activists and internet celebrities.
The pattern you're trying to illustrate doesn't exist. You're just gaslighting like a leftist.
They thought that because all they knew about her was that she had, through her experience with women in domestic violence shelters, realised that feminist narratives about domestic violence were complete fucking nonsense.
Somehow, people thought this one bit of awareness, born of her own direct experience, meant she understood the reality of things she had not experienced. This would have beena reasonable expectation, but it would require Paglia to have taken the realization that feminism was talking out of its arse on domest violence, and asked herself the question 'What else is feminism wrong about, and why am I calling myself a feminist when I know they are wrong?'
These are questions she has never, ever asked herself. She uncritically swallows feminist dogma on that which she has no direct experience of herself. Like the person who keeps reading the same newspaper even after seeing them get something completely backwards.
We know more about feminism than most normie women that identify as feminist.
Damn, consider myself schooled.
kek. restored?
What if I were to tell you...
It was jewish women that created feminism?
You'd be advertising that you know nothing about the role of women in 19th century protestantism.
I'd tell you that you're full of shit.
It's always the upper classes that create the problems.
That movie with Marlon Brando?
"Whatcha got?"
This place is way less interesting when you're banned.
It is. I don't know why some have such a visceral reaction to what you say, but the flame wars are always fun to read. You're probably the only person here that can create a post that gets 60 comments within an hour.
It’s funny to watch them eat each other.
All of this works for me. I don't know if you're referring to this community or the right in general but at least here I rarely see anyone defending TERF's. The most positive thing that people here are willing to say is that they're right about trannies, but for the wrong reasons. If the tranny problem were confined to them targeting women I'd say let them get fucked the bed they made. But trannies drag EVERYONE into their bullshit, so they're our problem too. We shouldn't be in the business of saving TERFs from their own bullshit backfiring, but we shouldn't tolerate the shit they subject us to just to spite the TERFs either.
You talked a lot about what we should do. Now let's talk about what we can do. What can men in the West actually do? Women are the majority of voters. Nothing is going to get rolled back to a culture you are comfortable with. This train has no stops.
It's called "Let them fight."
Why get involved when your enemies are fighting each other? There's been no defense, only drawing attention so that we can laugh at it. Get over yourself, your paranoia is reaching new extremes.
I'm a bit amazed that anyone would consider someone's gender as a factor in whether or not to help someone, rather than the justice of his cause.
I don't give a damn about women's issues, but if a someone is wronged, it doesn't matter to me if that someone is a man or a woman. It sounds crazy to have to even say this.
Yes, because then they'd be on the hook for the stupid brats.
Listen, I know you think women are the literal devil and such as, but the problem here is simple biology. Once the child is born, it is very hard for a woman to part with her own child. If you think all abortions will be replaced by adoptions, you are deluding yourself.
It's mostly men who benefit from abortion, and women who suffer from it, because they end up with the psychological scars for having done such a misdeed.
Is this like that other thing that you claimed happens a lot, but then it turned out that your only evidence for it was the "well, MRAs talked about it once"?
The funny thing is, I've repeatedly challenged you to show the percentage of women who do that, and you've never been able to reply. Because all you can do is show that 60% of children are killed by women, and 40% by men. The true percentage is of course infinitesimal, because if people were predisposed to kill their own children, they wouldn't be here today.
How do you know this?
In the war between TERFs and TRAs, I actually support TRAs (other than the kids stuff). TRAs' agitation for gender neutral everything is doing more for equality than decades of MRA efforts.
For example by making it easier to change your gender to F (without surgery or chemical castration) it finally allows men to bypass unfair laws in employment, education and funding. What MRA actions in 30 years comes even close to that?
We will never get rid of feminism because women love it. However, we can at least get closer to equality so the impact of feminism on men is lessened.
I don't support any woman who wont publicly declare that women shouldn't vote
The enemy of my enemy...is still a fucking feminist.
Ah, the way of MGTOW. Non participation is corrosive and will erode empires.
I think this should be what men do in November instead of growing mustaches. Since most wars men have fought in have resulted in nothing but them losing their lives for no reason, espcially since the list now includes ww1 and ww2, I think men need a new honorarium. That lasts a month if not longer.