Can you have a directed verdict if the jury comes back with an unfavorable decision? Or is there somewhere during the trial that the judge has to make the call or the opportunity passes?
Here's hoping it doesn't have to come to that but if it does the judge just tells the prosecution to go do one if it does. Prosecution should be disbarred after this shitshow regardless of everything else.
If 10 think he is innocent, a conviction is highly unlikely. Either the holdouts will be worn down (which frequently happens), or there is a hung jury. Even a hung jury can acquit on some of the charges, and he can't be retried on those.
the fact that the jurors are taking the threats of the mob into account in their decision making is enough to declare the idea of trial be jury on life support
we can't expect jurors to need witness protection and the penalty for intimidation through twitter and exposure on favorable subverted media is nonexistent
What the 10 need to do is let those 2 know that their name and address will be leaked to conservatives as the two people who were too cowardly to acquit, and that since it's obvious to everybody that Kyle is innocent there's going to be a lot of pissed of far-right gun nuts.
They may not believe there's as many murderous far-right, but right now they don't feel like there's any consequences for convicting an innocent man.
Really, as soon as the Jury was filmed this was over. I want to be wrong, but I don't think I am. Honestly I'm glad, as hopefully more people realize that our courts aren't worth a damn.
I hope all the people who declared they were so pro 2a they couldn't serve are real fucking proud of themselves. Pro 2a isn't biased, it just fucking is.
"Your honor, I can't serve on this jury, because I am pro-13A."
"...Really? Because you're against slavery, you can't serve on a jury?"
"Well apparently being pro-2A is sufficient, so being pro really old and established core parts of our founding documents is enough to be sent home here..."
So, proof the Jury is intimidated. 2 jurors want to send a 17 year old to jail so that they don't have do deal with threats from violent communists.
Directed verdict, please.
If two refuse to decide or decide based on threats external to the case/courtroom, why aren't they replaced by juror alternates?
It certainly seems like the sort of thing that should immediately prompt at response from the Judge.
Allowing a jury who openly admit they are intimidated to rule on a case, is allowing mob rule by proxy.
At minimum, I hope those jurors were told they must not allow outside threats to pervert the trial.
Can you have a directed verdict if the jury comes back with an unfavorable decision? Or is there somewhere during the trial that the judge has to make the call or the opportunity passes?
A judge can overturn a guilty verdict to not guilty if he believes a miscarriage of justice has occurred by the guilty verdict.
Here's hoping it doesn't have to come to that but if it does the judge just tells the prosecution to go do one if it does. Prosecution should be disbarred after this shitshow regardless of everything else.
I wouldn't be surprised if they find him guilty out of fear. Evidence and facts don't matter when the leftist mob controls justice.
That’s what I fear. If that happens then you are just giving free reign to the thugs aka “peaceful protestors”.
That's my secret.
I don't shoot 9.
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If Jacks tweet is right (honestly 50/50 with him) it will be a hung jury.
At that point there’s only one box of liberty left…
Cowabunga is inevitable at that point.
If 10 think he is innocent, a conviction is highly unlikely. Either the holdouts will be worn down (which frequently happens), or there is a hung jury. Even a hung jury can acquit on some of the charges, and he can't be retried on those.
Oh and the prosecution's case was epically bad.
the fact that the jurors are taking the threats of the mob into account in their decision making is enough to declare the idea of trial be jury on life support
we can't expect jurors to need witness protection and the penalty for intimidation through twitter and exposure on favorable subverted media is nonexistent
https://babylonbee.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-asked-to-step-outside-and-defend-the-courthouse-while-verdict-is-being-read
What the 10 need to do is let those 2 know that their name and address will be leaked to conservatives as the two people who were too cowardly to acquit, and that since it's obvious to everybody that Kyle is innocent there's going to be a lot of pissed of far-right gun nuts.
They may not believe there's as many murderous far-right, but right now they don't feel like there's any consequences for convicting an innocent man.
Trump won Kenosha county in 2016 and 2020.
Barnes also said that was the most favorable jurisdiction.
Christ...
Please. You should know better than that. All statistics are rigged these days and can be read in a way that suits anyone's argument.
Yup.
Really, as soon as the Jury was filmed this was over. I want to be wrong, but I don't think I am. Honestly I'm glad, as hopefully more people realize that our courts aren't worth a damn.
Ridiculous that a phone was even allowed the room, honestly.
My understanding is that is was when the Jury was getting off a bus at the courthouse, so outside.
I hope all the people who declared they were so pro 2a they couldn't serve are real fucking proud of themselves. Pro 2a isn't biased, it just fucking is.
Absolute fucking cuckery.
If a patriot finds himself with an opportunity to be on a jury, FUCKING LIE AND STAY ON THAT JURY.
"Your honor, I can't serve on this jury, because I am pro-13A."
"...Really? Because you're against slavery, you can't serve on a jury?"
"Well apparently being pro-2A is sufficient, so being pro really old and established core parts of our founding documents is enough to be sent home here..."
Hung jury = mistrial, not acquittal, meaning they can try again if they decide to.
Isn't a hung jury = acquittal? Does the jury need to be unanimous?
If that tweet's accurate, the only backlash would be if they acquit, so that indicates a 10 and 2 split right?
Isn't double jeopardy a thing?
Is this something Aus has over the US? A hung jury is an acquittal here.
US seems to have DJ laws, but hung jury isn't an acquittal, thus it's eligible for retrial.
Double Jeopardy is a thing, but if they want, they'll find some minutiae and ignore it.
I don't trust Jacek but assuming this is true, shouldn't they sequester them now at least?
There are six alternates who can step in, so perhaps those two should "call in sick" and be replaced.