Insightful post on the zoomer generation and the internet
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I tried online dating for a while. Now I don’t deny it can be rough for women with dirty comments but in the sense of opportunity an average looking woman will get a ton of messages. I could send like 100 messages and be lucky to get 5 responses.
If you've ever seen a girls tinder you'll never use the app again.
Just wanted to reply to emphasize this.
About 5 years ago now I was new at a job in Seoul, South Korea, and I was trying to get to know my new coworkers. I'd quickly learn they were the typical early/mid 20s vapid SoCal types, but MAN, I was blown away.
I shared a cab with these two girls on the way over to Hongdae or Itaewon (Can't remember) and just watched them open their Tinder and interact with it.
Where any guy might take a little time and parse through girls, maybe send a message on one or two people -- these girls were just LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT... "oh, he's cute" RIGHT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT -- in about 12 seconds.
Then they bemoaned how the radius was only 200km or whatever.
The moment really stayed with me because I knew that's how it was, but it was totally wild seeing it live.
Kind of ironic I met my wife on Tinder a few years later (it's the only real way to date in Korea for expats. My wife is not American, though).
Man, just the thought of seeing that right in front of me makes me want to just drop everything and join a monastery. Maybe Mt. Athos.
That's kind of how I felt. I knew I was in this weird grey area where I was a male coworker, so I was outside of this lover/friend circle and they could let their guard down a bit.
The rest of the conversation was just as wild. "Oh, I thought you were staying at Guy A's apartment" "Oh, no, only when I don't want to pay for a taxi. I'm really more interested in Guy B but ... blah blah blah"
Just completely wild seeing and hearing behind the curtain. Repulsive, too, imo.
100%. Luckily I don't think I would go for women who would do that, but eh, a lot of women are like that these days.
You know, the dating market is absolutely messed up right now. I don't begrudge the men who say "screw it" and go mgtow or whatever. I probably wouldn't even think of bothering with it if I didn't want to raise a family one day.
Yep. 100% Sympathize with men who go their own way. I'm lucky in that I was able to travel, met a great non-American with goals to move to America and make something of herself. Best of both worlds, really.
If you're in America, try the red states where Conservative women still hold on to Conservative values. I know it might not seem as appealing, but farm girls and those who still do manual labor around a family-owned business are likely to be more level-headed and grounded if she has both her parents in her life (especially if both parents are hardworking and hold classic TradCon values).
Anything outside of the Little House on the Prairie and you're gambling with a potential thot.
Theres a lot more virtous young women out there than people think. But you have to go offline to find them, and they get snapped up quick.
You're kind of right.
They're not the norm biologically. They've always existed, sure, through a confluence of brain chemistry outliers and individual circumstances (childhood abuse?). Most women, as you know, want to continue the normal biological rhythm of humanity.
But these kids are bombarded from an early age with "sex positivity" and all the malignant notions that come from that. Sex immediately loses its value and gets warped. Young girls get hooked up to immediate and constant validation via social media, and that turns into a slutty lifestyle and a lack of understanding of what sex and love is supposed to be.
It's a really deep topic that I could go on and on about, but I won't do that here.
It's r/K breeding theory in action, honestly...
A big part of it is that they’re also often put on mind, and, and body altering drugs such as birth control at very young ages. That’s a negative withholding even the fact that it makes having casual sex early and often with whoever the fuck more acceptable and with less possible long term consequences. This all changes everything immensely IMHO.
You really shouldn’t go on about it. You don’t know what you are talking about. All women are like that since the beginning of time. They are just as well behaved or not as the men around them allow them to be.
I'm sure the sex is fine, It's that it's like a bad movie with great effects. It looks appealing, and you might enjoy a moment or two, but you don't really care about the people involved, so it doesn't really satisfy you.
I know I know, " muh capeshit," but it's the best example I can think of. Compare the first Avengers movie to the Tom cruise Mummy Abomination.
The characters in the avengers have already been set up, so you're already invested in them to some degree or another, and the action scenes are reasonably well paced, and the slow points take the time they need without dragging things out. Far from perfect, but entertaining and you enjoy watching it. This is essentially what a good relationship is like. You actually care about the other person, so you're trying to please them as well as yourself. The emotional fulfillment is better than the sex.
With the Mummy movie, the effects are pretty good, the sets are impressive, but the action is stale, the characters are barely set up when they're actually set up, and by the end of it, you're disappointed when the main character doesn't die at the end, and not just because he's played by Tom cruise. This is your one night stand, an excuse to cut to the exciting stuff with no real appreciation or caring for anyone but yourself and what you can get out of it.
Reality is a motherfucker, and it often comes at you at the speed of light.
I have had many similar experiences, people just assume I'm western and therefore don't speak Mandarin, so they'll say that right in front of me.
No. It’s weak men not controlling the women. Letting women vote LOL it’s unbelievable how weak men are today. Pathetic. Letting tall children with tits run your society and politics.
I dated a woman who had a few younger sisters and younger cousins, I was in the inner circle too. God it is insane. Like a new guy every weekend from the time they are 18 in college until they start seriously dating someone to marry at 27±, likely even earlier than college too. I knew a girl whos older cousin used to take her clubbing at age 14, she was "stacked" enough that she passed for 18. They short term date some guy because their friends like him. Get a few STDs, thankfully curable or you lie by omission. The hubby that she dates for 1 year then marries doesnt know about her past, or maybe he doesnt want to know, or accepts it.
Im leaning towards "accepting it" because I have heard from a few coworkers who were getting off early from work were told to tell their wives they are coming home early, because they dont want "any surprises" when they get home.
The stories, oh god the stories.... lost condom that was found 2 days later, "I tore his foreskin", "i bought this stranger a drink so he gave me free coke", "laughed out of bed for having a small dick", the sorority challenges of banging multiple guys, the "rugburn challenge" (who can get the biggest rugburn on her back), the sorority event gift box that includes a set of fuzzy handcuffs, the passing the hot guy around to the entire sorority, the "entire sports team" challenge..... its just ..... who wants a woman like that for more than a good time. That is all those women will ever be good for. Its so normal to them because all of their friends participate in the same behavior so they see no problem with it. These women get married to normal good guys. Its just a giant facade.
Ive been so disgusted I havent dated in 5 years, despite being what these desperate late 20s early 30s women want: tall, in shape, blonde, green eyed, wealthy. I had one a friend of a friend that apparently i was unknowingly getting too close to offered to pay for an airplane ticket to fly me out to her on her vacation. She was in the military, was in a sorority in college, works in a male dominated field, was previously married... all the red flags. Hell no! no no no!
Can we please, as a culture, admit that women in the military are basically comfort women? They suck at their job and they get passed around very quickly.
27-30 is the point where the Dick stackers realize they can’t compete with the 18-24 Dick stackers and rope in a naive beta cuckold with money to divorce-rape. Never marry one.
Here's an example of that, from a hambeast no less.
Disgusting animals lmao
There was a guy a few years ago who did an experiment on tinder where he set up two. One was with a super attractive physically fit guy, and the other was with a girl who was between a 4, and 6 aesthetically by today’s standards at best. She was even slightly overweight. The disparity of attention, and responses was astounding. I wish I could find the one I’m talking about. I think it’s been done a few times by now though.
r/Chadfishing was similar.
Don't use free dating sites. Do not. You'd probably get Chlamydia just looking at the screen too hard.
Not gonna PL too hard, but I did eventually find success with online dating after a lot of soul-crushing failure. The trick was to use a reputable site and just be honest as hell. I know a lot of people think "women like confidence" is a PUA meme, but it's true. I wrote my profile in a way I was sure would scare away every woman on the planet. Not because it was creepy or scary, but because I basically just said "here's what I want, if you don't fit the description, fuck off".
Every millennial or younger man is a timid half-person who gets no respect because they command no respect. Women absolutely crave a strong presence in their men. That's all you really need to know.
That's the thing with PUAs -- they aren't wrong. What they do works, but it is a fair bit manipulative.
Men being confident attracts women. Appearances only matter so much (whereas they matter a lot in the other direction). I wouldn't consider myself particularly attractive in large part because I'm overweight, but I never really had a ton of difficulty in finding girls.
I very much just don't give a fuck about the games and am always willing to walk away from a shit deal. Women see confidence, and I don't end up wasting my time.
PUAs are so interesting, though - because they show there's a biological basis to gender and attraction, which flies in the face of everything academia wants you to believe.
Women are just as bad at the manipulation as PUAs are.
True to an extent.
But I think the difference is -- women's manipulative tendencies are part of the biological processes in their brain. It's a survival mechanism above all else.
PUAs aren't operating on a survival instinct - they're essentially taking biology, understanding it, and finding out how they can manipulate it into a desired response.
That’s called adapt or die IMHO fren.
Worse. PUA is learned. Women just know for birth how to pull those strings.
The overwhelming majority of women live lies 24/7 through wearing makeup, and countless other examples of physical enhancements.
Women live lies to themselves 24/7 without any external of conscious processes needed. That's why so many of them are anxiety riddled and mentally ill, the cognitive dissonance has taken its toll on them for years.
Definitely. I’ve used ehatmony and met some ladies but you are right. A ton of effort.
Not to encourage you degenerates that can’t meet people at school or work, but eharmony is definitely worth looking at. I know some folks that were successful through it in that they have families now and they’re all kinda cultish about it still.
kek
That’s the one I’ve used. But as I’ve gotten older I have been better about meeting women in real life
What was the quality of people you saw on eHarmony? Won't be dating for a few years yet (school etc) but figured eHarmony would be worth a shot, as far as dating sites go. Assuming they don't make it Tinder-like in the next few years.
I remember me and a friend setting up an account for another friend on Christian Mingle and Plentyoffish and...well, I was surprised at the number of single mom's and women "ready to settle down" we saw on both sites.
What was the "reputable" site? They all seem like trash to me
I'm pretty paranoid when it comes to PLing, so I'll just say it was one of the big ones. All of the top sites that have a subscription fee are good.
Also, pay a-fucking-ttention to the women around you when you're in public. You know that old trope about guys being oblivious when women are hitting on them? You'd be amazed how true it is.
Just don't be stupid and jump in bed with the first Thot you catch making a pass at you, either.
What’s PUA?
I have a friend that was using Tinder, the guy is a classical good looking guy so he had a lot of hits. But the girls he ended up sleeping with were all nut jobs. Either huge daddy issues, sluts or mental cases. He only used it for meaningless sex so I guess it worked out for him.
Redpoll moment for me was when a friend told me it was safer to occasionally pay for escorts than to fuck around on dating sites if you’re just looking for sex. I was disgusted at first but when he explained that if you exercise discretion and choose escorts who operate professionally, you’re less likely by far to catch an std because they’re less likely to have had drunken unprotected hookups. I’ll take his word for it but after thinking about it for a bit and reflecting on some of the sloots I encountered during a year I was single a while ago, I realized he was probably right.
Its also a question of time vs money. If you are hot enough to make the time spent seducing her less the cost of the escort (relative to your valued dollar per hour amount) it might be a better cost to take those sloots. But for average men its likely cheaper for the escort.
And unfortunately current year, that’s the rule and not the exception.
This is what it's like living in a matriarchy.
Pretty much yes. If your top 10-20% on looks you can fuck whatever pretty much whenever. The rest of men are exploited as tax paying worker drones to keep society and the welfare state rolling along. Women would be happier if they just cut their balls off and never approach them.
Forget Zoomers, millenials are no better.
Discord is embarassing. I've seen dozens of women - not even onlyfans girls, just random women - who have their own 400+ user servers that are just their emotional+financial support group of male simps. It's beyond pathetic.
Can you imagine? Having 400+ willing to pat your back or bankroll you whenever you need it? Many of them can just say "I wish I had <product>" and someone will gift it to them within 10 minutes flat. I even KNOW some of these women. None of their simps have anything to do with them in real life, of course.
The problem plaguing our society is one of profound male weakness.
It's one of the prime features of overpopulation.
we need a good purge
It’ll right itself once boomers all develop Alzheimer’s and can’t log on to the internet anymore. Thank god their destruction of the world will soon be coming to an end. Unfortunately, we will be desperately trying to clean up their mess for generations to come.
That'll only "right itself" in the sense that there will no longer be any more sane people left to point out the crazy shit.
If by “sane people” you mean “literal fucking retards who’s antiquated world views have destroyed America” then, sure.
its pretty late at Tel Aviv right now shouldn't you be sleeping ?
I don’t understand this reference.
Not very smart are you?
Probably has a hard time finding his way home, those rare occurrences where he has to leave the house.
Is it how we call Progressives these days?
Some of the older ones would fall into that category, yes. You’re a boomer first, then a progressive, conservative, republican or Democrat.
Most of the problems in America come from politicians kowtowing to millennials. But I don't expect the generation raised on Facebook and Tik Tok to understand that so 🤷♀️
Replace “millennials” with “corporate interest” and you might be onto something.
Admit that corporations bait mostly millennials into being their spokespeople for all the shady shit they want to get passed by the politicians and you might be onto something.
Admit that we need to eliminate lobbying altogether and have 100% total transparency for every dollar donated to every politician or you’re unironically a shill.
30% of men haven't had sex by age 30 in the online dating app age.
Men will sleep down, women will not. A man with literally an average appearance will get no attention whereas an Average women will get to feel like a queen and pick her stud.
Of course, that also means that she'll never get the man she wants or thinks she deserves.... because the top 10% of men getting 90% of the sex can literally pump and dump until they actually get a women of similar value as them.
Marriage also being a scam contract in the current age has not helped one bit. (Divorce is typically massively financially beneficial for the women, almost never for the man.)
Honestly is better for guys overall. Yes young guys have it rough but I've seen a lot of single 30 something girls and are depressed as fuck while the the 30 something dudes can find dates and are considerably happier.
The guys just need to stop simping, get in to sports, be as manly as possible and keep their eyes on the future.
I worked at a soul crushing white collar job in a big city most of my 20s and 30s. 90% of the men had married a college or grad school sweetheart. Only 20% of the working women were married. As my contemporaries and I hit our early to mid 30s, the batshit insanity of the single women jumped off the charts.
It was unbelievable. I went out occasionally with a few of them and they’d say “oh, I want a good guy and looks or a job aren’t that important” and then if I tried to shoot the shit with some dude and make an introduction it’d be “OMG, he’s so short” or some similar nonsense. I remember explaining “The Wall” to one of them and she stopped talking to me for like a year and then came into my office out of the blue and had a meltdown. “I’m meeting plenty of guys on Tinder but none of them want to commit. What is wrong with them?!?!?!?”
I've had the same experience. One of the chicks, I've been colleagues with for 8 years is a full feminist but she will not date a guy that is short, does not have money or does not pay for her shit. Still single as far as I know.
So near, and yet so far...
You’re such a pathetic SIMP. Who wants to date a blown out dick stacker in her 30s LOL
Been in a LTR for many years if I end up single I will stay single. The Juice is not worth the Squeeze.
I got married 3 years ago and glancing out at the landscape today I feel like I successfully escaped a Temple of Doom's worth of tricks and traps and stole the last treasure.
I don’t use it for anything anymore. I find it’s 99% noise (yentas gossiping and yacking away) and 1% signal.
What servers are you on?
All the crypto servers I was in it was just a bunch of fags chatting off topic mostly. Mostly garbage.
I mean, in that aspect we are Huxleyan, I grant you... But we also have a sprinkle of Orwell (vaccine mandates, border bans, etc), and a tonne of Kafka, lol...
And yes, I sound like a wanker, I know, but it's important we get our dystopias right, lol!
I joined a public discord group for the first time. The incel simps are creepy af to the women
A crumb miss. The merest crumb
If any admins are listening. please get my brothers an MGTOW.win all the others suck
a crumb of pussy
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Livestream most nights with a bevy of thots. Real talk.
And then there will be a collapse , best start preparing now.
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